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Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Aug 29 @ 11:09 AM ET
Yeah I would prefer to be like Winnipeg, drafted a lot of good pieces and then won some trades.

Patience is the name of the game.

- DuranDuran


I don’t know about that. I love my Jets to death, but we got lucky.

-Laine fell into our laps.
-Byfuglien and Wheeler, and to a lesser extent Perreault (younger) and Enstrom (did decline), have managed to extend their prime years into their 30’s.
-Most of our picks have surpassed their perceived ceiling (scouting team deserves ALL THE MONEY)
-We also had a slight reset to the rebuild after that Anaheim series

Patience helps, but it guarantees nothing.
Trade everything, pile up picks.
Always best player available, never draft for position.
Rebuild as fast as possible.
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Aug 29 @ 11:10 AM ET
He does have almost the highest save percentage of any active goalie though.
- james_tanner1

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 29 @ 12:23 PM ET
What's hilarious that I was right, and that you googled it, and that still take that tone with people. I have owned you thousands of times in this blog, but this is the best ever.
- james_tanner1


I didnt google anything James. lol. I understand how the cap and the bonus cushion works. Your blog and your statements show that you don't. The level of how badly you're misinformed about the sport of hockey regardless of what aspect of the game vontinues to be astonishing. The fact remains that your statement that Matthews is going to make less than 1M to play this year is inaccurate.

Finally, you can claim all you want that you've owned me and it wont make it so. I dont have to claim that I own you. The evidence does that on its own
VeryModernMan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Munich
Joined: 06.06.2017

Aug 29 @ 12:51 PM ET
The fact remains that your statement that Matthews is going to make less than 1M to play this year is inaccurate.
- MJL


Indeed these bonuses (~1,8M) are earned and payed, the league just allows to move them forward capwise. Leafs this year have a carry-over of $2,55M (due capfriendly).
devsnation_12
New Jersey Devils
Location: Suffern, NY
Joined: 10.19.2013

Aug 29 @ 2:11 PM ET
Usually don't like your perspective on individual players, but good article!
James Tanner
Washington Capitals
Location: North Cederbrooke , ON
Joined: 01.19.2017

Aug 29 @ 2:44 PM ET
I didnt google anything James. lol. I understand how the cap and the bonus cushion works. Your blog and your statements show that you don't. The level of how badly you're misinformed about the sport of hockey regardless of what aspect of the game vontinues to be astonishing. The fact remains that your statement that Matthews is going to make less than 1M to play this year is inaccurate.

Finally, you can claim all you want that you've owned me and it wont make it so. I dont have to claim that I own you. The evidence does that on its own

- MJL



HA! OK there bud.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Aug 29 @ 2:47 PM ET
HA! OK there bud.
- james_tanner1


This won't end well for you James, MJL still has another gear
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 29 @ 2:49 PM ET
This won't end well for you James, MJL still has another gear
- Nucker101


No need to even take off the parking brake for Mr. Tanner

Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Aug 29 @ 3:11 PM ET
No need to even take off the parking brake for Mr. Tanner
- MJL

camfor
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Complete mis-use of stats, Is now called the Jimmy "T" special.
Joined: 12.08.2007

Aug 29 @ 3:16 PM ET
What's hilarious that I was right, and that you googled it, and that still take that tone with people. I have owned you thousands of times in this blog, but this is the best ever.
- james_tanner1

Why would you bother to own MJL?
Haven't you heard...Renting is the way to go!
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Aug 29 @ 3:42 PM ET
HA! OK there bud.
- james_tanner1

MJL waxes your azz so often, you should address him as Miss Kim
James Tanner
Washington Capitals
Location: North Cederbrooke , ON
Joined: 01.19.2017

Aug 29 @ 4:38 PM ET
MJL waxes your azz so often, you should address him as Miss Kim
- KINGKENZO



That is a brutal joke, but are we talking about the same guy who has stalked me on here since day one and insulted me and constantly made ridiculous arguments that don't make any sense while taking any argument said against him in the most ludicrous way possible? The guy who has done this with such dedication that it's almost 99% certain he's doing a long-term troll job?


I say this without joking, but he's never even once made an argument that made any sense, let alone won an argument against me. That's just the facts/ But don't feel bad for him, like I said, he's not being serious.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 29 @ 5:02 PM ET
That is a brutal joke, but are we talking about the same guy who has stalked me on here since day one and insulted me and constantly made ridiculous arguments that don't make any sense while taking any argument said against him in the most ludicrous way possible? The guy who has done this with such dedication that it's almost 99% certain he's doing a long-term troll job?


I say this without joking, but he's never even once made an argument that made any sense, let alone won an argument against me. That's just the facts/ But don't feel bad for him, like I said, he's not being serious.

- james_tanner1



First of all let's state for the record that I have never once insulted you personally while you have insulted me personally umpteen times. Usually when I've made a point like on this blog that you can't refute and when I give irrefutable evidence that you are indeed wrong.

So let's review. You made the statement that Matthews will be playing this year for under a million dollars in salary and used the erroneous statement that's because the Leafs can "defer" his cap hit until next year. You ignorantly thought that also included his salary for bonuses. I pointed out to you factually that using the bonus cushion the only thing that can be deferred is the cap hit on a team's cap for the bonus portion of his cap hit. The actually salary that a player earns in performance bonuses while on an ELC contract is not deffer-ed and is paid out to the player in full for that season. That is a fact! It is a fact that you were wrong! It is a fact that you repeatedly claim that someone's argument is ludicrous without substantiating that claim in any manner.

You then proceeded to double down, ignore that you were wrong and then took the conversation in the direction like you did in your above post. That is James Tanner's M.O. to a tee when he is proven wrong. Which happens often. The king of fallacies! You don't have an argument here because you're obviously uninformed in how players contracts, salaries, and the salary cap works. I proved that beyond any doubt.

There is no stalking or trolling. Only conversation on a internet message board.

Who is the troll, the guy who was wrong and is now calling someone a troll or the person who has actually used facts and proved and backed up his statements?
VeryModernMan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Munich
Joined: 06.06.2017

Aug 29 @ 5:10 PM ET
stalked
- james_tanner1


Don't let the Flyerz-gang bully you...
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Aug 29 @ 5:13 PM ET
Most later round picks don't ever play an NHL game, but if you can get lucky to get a few of them to play a role on the team then I would consider that a success. Trades on the other hand are best when filling in needed roles. Trading for young players (the ones with a higher ceiling) tend to cost a bit of future and like you said are rare to come by, which is why I placed trades before lower round picks since they almost never pan out.
- Glak18


I think you need more luck than anything else tbh.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Aug 29 @ 7:18 PM ET
That is a brutal joke, but are we talking about the same guy who has stalked me on here since day one and insulted me and constantly made ridiculous arguments that don't make any sense while taking any argument said against him in the most ludicrous way possible? The guy who has done this with such dedication that it's almost 99% certain he's doing a long-term troll job?


I say this without joking, but he's never even once made an argument that made any sense, let alone won an argument against me. That's just the facts/ But don't feel bad for him, like I said, he's not being serious.

- james_tanner1


Interesting how most people here attribute to you all the same things you are saying about him. He has owned you so many times you might as well give him a free lifetime membership to your dumb ass.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Aug 29 @ 8:11 PM ET
He does have almost the highest save percentage of any active goalie though.
- james_tanner1

Anders Lindback anyone?
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Aug 30 @ 12:11 AM ET
Because the Leafs are Tanner's favorite team I'm going to see how long they were at it in order to become competitive.

2008 - 5th overall Luke Schenn (traded for JVR)
2009 - 7th overall Kadri
2012 - 5th overall Morgan Rielly
2014 - 8th overall Nylander
2015 - 4th overall Marner
2016 - 1st overall Matthews

So in essence it took the Leafs nine years of building through the draft to establish the core of players that made them a good team last year.

They supplimented those core players by trading Kessel for a 1st rounder they used to get Andersen and got Gardiner by taking on Anaheim cap dump Lupul but the core of their players were drafted over a nine year time-frame.

Quick rebuild my ass!!!

- LeftCoaster

This is a bad post, and you should feel bad.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Aug 30 @ 12:30 AM ET
This is a bad post, and you should feel bad.
- Feeling Glucky?

he's right the leafs still suck
VeryModernMan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Munich
Joined: 06.06.2017

Aug 30 @ 5:01 AM ET
he's right the leafs still suck
- 2Real


Indeed expect them to be golfing again when it matters most.
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