It would be a fair deal imo. I don't think its the right time for a trade but it does make us better.
- thundachunk

when elite players are available, you have to see if you can swing the deal.

I have no issue with management looking into the price of Tavares or EK.

But whatever happens, I just hope they continue to draft and develop. at least have a a first or second round pick every draft, and of course the more the better.

When Hutton had his lucky year there was more than few on here saying he was top 4 material.
- LordHumungous

It was assumed he would continue to take steps forward rather than a step back after his rookie year. Based on how he played for an extended period of time it wasn't outrageous at the time to say he could be a middle pairing Dman. I'm interested to see if he's done enough work this summer to keep a job in the NHL, he certainly looks healthier.

I think Canucks make up of the D is mostly wrong .

I like a D that is made up of a guy that moves the puck, a finisher ( the big shot) a big hitter , the fighter , and 2 steady minute munchers.

Going forward I would like to see Hughes Woo OJ Edler Pouliot Karlsson and a guy with Engeland size and toughness.
- VANTEL

Stetcher .. moves the puck
Edler ... finished, poorly now but he was good
MDZ ...... hitter
Gudbranson... fighter
Hutton ..... minute muncher
Pullout .... minute muncher

We have them, they just suck.


Edit

Karlsson

Stetcher .. moves the puck
Edler ... finished, poorly now but he was good
MDZ ...... hitter
Gudbranson... fighter
Hutton ..... minute muncher
Pullout .... minute muncher

We have them, they just suck.
- Pres.cup

For those interested, Canucks ended up with the #2 system (behind Buffalo - largely due to Dahlin) on Pronman's rankings. Said he feels only 2 impact players out of the group, but believes it will produce a lot of NHL players

His top 10 prospect rankings:
Hughes
Pettersson
Gaudette
Lind
Juolevi
Demko
Dahlen
DiPietro
Lockwood
MacEwen

Organizational Top 10 (23 and Under)
Brock Boeser, RW
Quinn Hughes, D
Elias Pettersson, C
Bo Horvat, C
Adam Gaudette, C
Kole Lind, RW
Olli Juolevi, D
Thatcher Demko, G
Nikolay Goldobin, LW
Jake Virtanen, RW

For contrast, Biech/Burke over there are up to #6 on their rankings which go like this:

No. 20-17: Matthew Thiessen, Toni Utunen, Tyler Madden and Jack Rathbone
No. 16-14: Jalen Chatfield, Matthew Brassard and Lukas Jasek
No. 13-11: Petrus Palmu, Guillaume Brisebois and Michael DiPietro
No. 10: Zack MacEwen
No. 9: Jonah Gadjovich
No. 8: Jett Woo
No. 7: Kole Lind
No. 6: Adam Gaudette

For those interested, Canucks ended up with the #2 system (behind Buffalo - largely due to Dahlin) on Pronman's rankings. Said he feels only 2 impact players out of the group, but believes it will produce a lot of NHL players

His top 10 prospect rankings:
Hughes
Pettersson
Gaudette
Lind
Juolevi
Demko
Dahlen
DiPietro
Lockwood
MacEwen

Organizational Top 10 (23 and Under)
Brock Boeser, RW
Quinn Hughes, D
Elias Pettersson, C
Bo Horvat, C
Adam Gaudette, C
Kole Lind, RW
Olli Juolevi, D
Thatcher Demko, G
Nikolay Goldobin, LW
Jake Virtanen, RW
- WhiteLie

Pettersson has risen... I like OJ over gaudette but good list.

Gudbranson.
- thundachunk

Garbage.

For those interested, Canucks ended up with the #2 system (behind Buffalo - largely due to Dahlin) on Pronman's rankings. Said he feels only 2 impact players out of the group, but believes it will produce a lot of NHL players

His top 10 prospect rankings:
Hughes
Pettersson
Gaudette
Lind
Juolevi
Demko
Dahlen
DiPietro
Lockwood
MacEwen

Organizational Top 10 (23 and Under)
Brock Boeser, RW
Quinn Hughes, D
Elias Pettersson, C
Bo Horvat, C
Adam Gaudette, C
Kole Lind, RW
Olli Juolevi, D
Thatcher Demko, G
Nikolay Goldobin, LW
Jake Virtanen, RW
- WhiteLie

Hughes higher than Pettersson?

For those interested, Canucks ended up with the #2 system (behind Buffalo - largely due to Dahlin) on Pronman's rankings. Said he feels only 2 impact players out of the group, but believes it will produce a lot of NHL players

His top 10 prospect rankings:
Hughes
Pettersson
Gaudette
Lind
Juolevi
Demko
Dahlen
DiPietro
Lockwood
MacEwen

Organizational Top 10 (23 and Under)
Brock Boeser, RW
Quinn Hughes, D
Elias Pettersson, C
Bo Horvat, C
Adam Gaudette, C
Kole Lind, RW
Olli Juolevi, D
Thatcher Demko, G
Nikolay Goldobin, LW
Jake Virtanen, RW
- WhiteLie

We have decided we hate him and anything he says is just white noise.

Pettersson has risen... I like OJ over gaudette but good list.
- Pres.cup

He had Gaudette to DiPietro grouped together as "Legit Prospects" so I think they are fairly interchangeable

Hughes higher than Pettersson?
- NorthNuck

He's very very high on Hughes. Loves everything about him, with only a minor concern about his size. Whereas he has come around on Pettersson but still thinks the kid's skating needs work. The two were in the same "Elite" category so I think its splitting hairs, and more telling to me that the Canucks got a steal with Hughes

We have decided we hate him and anything he says is just white noise.
- Marwood

That's why I posted the equally beloved Biech/Burke rankings for balance

For those interested, Canucks ended up with the #2 system (behind Buffalo - largely due to Dahlin) on Pronman's rankings. Said he feels only 2 impact players out of the group, but believes it will produce a lot of NHL players

His top 10 prospect rankings:
Hughes
Pettersson
Gaudette
Lind
Juolevi
Demko
Dahlen
DiPietro
Lockwood
MacEwen

Organizational Top 10 (23 and Under)
Brock Boeser, RW
Quinn Hughes, D
Elias Pettersson, C
Bo Horvat, C
Adam Gaudette, C
Kole Lind, RW
Olli Juolevi, D
Thatcher Demko, G
Nikolay Goldobin, LW
Jake Virtanen, RW
- WhiteLie

Not cool Whitey. Pronman is a piece of sh!t. The (frank)head has Mittlestad ranked higher than Petterson.

Not cool Whitey. Pronman is a piece of sh!t. The (frank)head has Mittlestad ranked higher than Petterson.
- CanuckDon

- NorthNuck

He is a tool that won’t admit when he is wrong. EP doesn’t have skating issues. He is just physically weak lol

Not cool Whitey. Pronman is a piece of sh!t. The (frank)head has Mittlestad ranked higher than Petterson.
- CanuckDon

I'll make sure to highlight those names when he does his consolidated list

I'll make sure to highlight those names when he does his consolidated list
- WhiteLie

He mentions it in his rationale for ranking BUFF higher. Mittlestad is more elite than EP. more elite at what? Putting up marginal numbers in college and looking like he is taking a sh!t when he performs pull ups?

when elite players are available, you have to see if you can swing the deal.

I have no issue with management looking into the price of Tavares or EK.

But whatever happens, I just hope they continue to draft and develop. at least have a a first or second round pick every draft, and of course the more the better.
- hillbillydeluxe

I like how you put this 👍
If we can swing it for EK a possible UFA like Seguin gets his attention.

He mentions it in his rationale for ranking BUFF higher. Mittlestad is more elite than EP. more elite at what? Putting up marginal numbers in college and looking like he is taking a sh!t when he performs pull ups?
- CanuckDon

I'm not a fan of how Pronman does his rankings but he is correct in saying both Mittelstadt and Pettersson are really talented kids.

Pettersson is better though

I'm not a fan of how Pronman does his rankings but he is correct in saying both Mittelstadt and Pettersson are really talented kids.

Pettersson is better though
- LeftCoaster

Damn rights Pettersson is better

He mentions it in his rationale for ranking BUFF higher. Mittlestad is more elite than EP. more elite at what? Putting up marginal numbers in college and looking like he is taking a sh!t when he performs pull ups?
- CanuckDon

Meh, I see this Mittlestadt vs Pettersson like comparing peak Phil Kessel and peak Daniel Sedin. One is flashier, faster, and buzz-worthy and the other is more complete, cerebral, and consistent. Two good prospects that have a lot riding on their success

Meh, I see this Mittlestadt vs Pettersson like comparing peak Phil Kessel and peak Daniel Sedin. One is flashier, faster, and buzz-worthy and the other is more complete, cerebral, and consistent. Two good prospects that have a lot riding on their success
- WhiteLie

Except the difference between Horvat and Eichel is a little more distinct. Less pressure on Mittelstadt for sure

2019

EP Seguin LE
Dahlen Bo Boeser
Leipsic Gaudette JV
Schaller Beagle Roussel
Gaunce,Ryan

Edler EK
Hughes Tryamkin
OJ EG
Pouliot

Tanev,Sutter,Sven,Stetcher for EK/Ryan 7/11
Granlund traded for a pick
Seguin UFA 7/9.5-10m
Flip Ryan to Seattle if take Hutton for a 4th in 2020

2019 draft BPA

Only coffee & smokes so far this morning 😜

Except the difference between Horvat and Eichel is a little more distinct. Less pressure on Mittelstadt for sure
- NorthNuck

Horvat and Eichel

I like Horvat's game, I wish he had a touch of Eichel's offence though. Horvat's got way more maturity and natural leadership skills.