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NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Aug 30 @ 12:58 PM ET
Horvat and Eichel

I like Horvat's game, I wish he had a touch of Eichel's offence though. Horvat's got way more maturity and natural leadership skills.

- LeftCoaster

He does, but Eichel is clearly the superior hockey player. Pettersson needs to hit that offensive level, Mittelstadt only needs to hit Horvat's is what I'm saying

Also thats IF the Sabres need him to be their 2C.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Aug 30 @ 1:00 PM ET
He does, but Eichel is clearly the superior hockey player. Pettersson needs to hit that offensive level, Mittelstadt only needs to hit Horvat's is what I'm saying

Also thats IF the Sabres need him to be their 2C.

- NorthNuck

If I had my choice between Eichel/Mittelstadt or Pettersson/Horvat (as centers) I'd choose the former but I certainly like where we sit.
classic321
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.04.2012

Aug 30 @ 1:04 PM ET
Thanks Carol. The Gadjovich pick was the result of Torts being signed by CBJ.
- Reubenkincade



Dumb Luck getting that pick
But Ill take it.
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Aug 30 @ 1:05 PM ET
Except the difference between Horvat and Eichel is a little more distinct. Less pressure on Mittelstadt for sure
- NorthNuck


For sure, but they are in a division with some strong center depth at the moment. Going up against Matthews/Tavares, Stamkos/Point, Krejci/Bergeron, Barkov/Trochek is a pretty steep climb if they hope to make the playoffs in the next several years
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Aug 30 @ 1:06 PM ET
If I had my choice between Eichel/Mittelstadt or Pettersson/Horvat (as centers) I'd choose the former but I certainly like where we sit.
- LeftCoaster


Agreed
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Aug 30 @ 1:07 PM ET
It was assumed he would continue to take steps forward rather than a step back after his rookie year. Based on how he played for an extended period of time it wasn't outrageous at the time to say he could be a middle pairing Dman. I'm interested to see if he's done enough work this summer to keep a job in the NHL, he certainly looks healthier.
- NorthNuck

True. Kind of a make/break year.
classic321
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.04.2012

Aug 30 @ 1:09 PM ET
I'm not a fan of how Pronman does his rankings but he is correct in saying both Mittelstadt and Pettersson are really talented kids.

Pettersson is better though

- LeftCoaster


So after reading the articles he groups them into categories.

1) Special
2) Elite
3) High end
4) Very good
5) legit
6) Have a chance
7) Depth

there is only 1 special prospect Dahlin
There is 8 elite prospects (Mittelstadt, hughes, Pettersson, Kotkaniemi, Borgstrom, Zadina, Thomas, Svhecnikov)
Big fan or Borgstrom
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Aug 30 @ 1:18 PM ET
For sure, but they are in a division with some strong center depth at the moment. Going up against Matthews/Tavares, Stamkos/Point, Krejci/Bergeron, Barkov/Trochek is a pretty steep climb if they hope to make the playoffs in the next several years
- WhiteLie

True. Lots of good Cs in the Atlantic
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Aug 30 @ 1:24 PM ET
Horvat and Eichel

I like Horvat's game, I wish he had a touch of Eichel's offence though. Horvat's got way more maturity and natural leadership skills though.

- LeftCoaster

Horvat and what he brings is huge. Could be my favorite player on our team...Until Karlsson gets here.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Aug 30 @ 1:29 PM ET
Horvat and what he brings is huge. Could be my favorite player on our team...Until Karlsson gets here.
- thundachunk

Stop that!!
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Aug 30 @ 1:32 PM ET
Stop that!!
- LeftCoaster

Okay I have had my fun. I will stop trolling.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Aug 30 @ 1:36 PM ET
It was assumed he would continue to take steps forward rather than a step back after his rookie year. Based on how he played for an extended period of time it wasn't outrageous at the time to say he could be a middle pairing Dman. I'm interested to see if he's done enough work this summer to keep a job in the NHL, he certainly looks healthier.
- NorthNuck

No dude, no. He played bottom pair the first half of year one and did well. Injuries forced him into top 4 and he got scorched, some of the worst stats in hockey. Last year the entire time he played top 4 he got roasted badly. Homer’s loved him after first year, even though he did terribly in the top4. Assuming he has anything other than the ability to play bottom pair is just ignoring the facts. Lipstick on a pig=Hutton playing top4
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Aug 30 @ 1:37 PM ET
Okay I have had my fun. I will stop trolling.
- thundachunk

I'm not in favor of trading your first round pick, ever!! No matter how good you are, unless you have more that one of them.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Aug 30 @ 1:39 PM ET
No dude, no. He played bottom pair the first half of year one and did well. Injuries forced him into top 4 and he got scorched, some of the worst stats in hockey. Last year the entire time he played top 4 he got roasted badly. Homer’s loved him after first year, even though he did terribly in the top4. Assuming he has anything other than the ability to play bottom pair is just ignoring the facts. Lipstick on a pig=Hutton playing top4
- neem55

I never said he was a top 4 Dman dude chill out

Makes me wonder if you even read my post
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Aug 30 @ 2:02 PM ET
So after reading the articles he groups them into categories.

1) Special
2) Elite
3) High end
4) Very good
5) legit
6) Have a chance
7) Depth

there is only 1 special prospect Dahlin
There is 8 elite prospects (Mittelstadt, hughes, Pettersson, Kotkaniemi, Borgstrom, Zadina, Thomas, Svhecnikov)
Big fan or Borgstrom

- classic321

He is so (frank)ed. I havent seen proof in years that all his gambles are even remotely coreect.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Aug 30 @ 2:03 PM ET
I never said he was a top 4 Dman dude chill out

Makes me wonder if you even read my post

- NorthNuck

Neem is our resident "pronman defensive specialist"
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Aug 30 @ 2:03 PM ET
When all the pros & cons are weighed JB has done a fine job. Considering the stage the Canucks are at its definitely going in the right direction. Sure some bumps along the road getting to this point but its all positive.
What we need is hockey ppl run the hockey side of the biz. Everyone else stay da fuq outta the way.


This fanbase generally speaking is historically never satisfied with anything & is most of the problem along with some management being FA mostly. When ppl cannot see the forest for the trees its all doom & gloom. Everyone likes & wants to be a winner but very few ppl want to be a part of the pain & process. Its convenient to female dog about the past & anything that can be grasped upon but so-called fans will flock to together & pile on with gang mentality. Thats why democracy is bs & why like it or not most of us are wrong on mostly everything. Til ppl walk in someones shoes they know nada.



Something my father said many years ago before he passed on...

I cried cuz i had no shoes til i met a man with no feet

- Nighthawk


Well said, although you won't get to many agreeing because their all super awesome armchair GM's that would get every action right.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Aug 30 @ 2:06 PM ET
I'm not in favor of trading your first round pick, ever!! No matter how good you are, unless you have more that one of them.
- LeftCoaster

I'm not either. I don't think we are ready to make such a play anyhow. However I sure can see FA pushing Benning to make a splash. High profile players fill seats.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Aug 30 @ 2:10 PM ET
Well said, although you won't get to many agreeing because their all super awesome armchair GM's that would get every action right.
- Makita

Well said Makita.

Good save bro.

LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Aug 30 @ 2:12 PM ET
I'm not either. I don't think we are ready to make such a play anyhow. However I sure can see FA pushing Benning to make a splash. High profile players fill seats.
- thundachunk

Could you imagine a world where somehow we acquired Karlsson, filled the stands every home game then missed the playoffs?

thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Aug 30 @ 2:12 PM ET
Well said, although you won't get to many agreeing because they're all super awesome armchair GM's that would get every action right.
- Makita

And Grammar police.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Aug 30 @ 2:13 PM ET
Could you imagine a world where somehow we acquired Karlsson, filled the stands every home game then missed the playoffs?


- LordHumungous

LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Aug 30 @ 2:15 PM ET
And Grammar police.
- thundachunk

lol
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Aug 30 @ 2:35 PM ET
I never said he was a top 4 Dman dude chill out

Makes me wonder if you even read my post

- NorthNuck

Middle pair is top4. He’s never seen layer well enough to hold that spot, at any point in his career.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Aug 30 @ 2:39 PM ET
Neem is our resident "pronman defensive specialist"
- manvanfan

Good one. I still prefer it to the resident whatever the frank castanza you’re supposed to be. Hockey message board trivia writer ? Resident “my mom thinks I’m cool”?
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