Dreger is saying Hanifin 6 yrs @4.95

Dreger is saying Hanifin 6 yrs @4.95
- VANTEL

Not bad at all but he’s going to be a relatively young UFA

Not bad at all but he’s going to be a relatively young UFA
- Nucker101

That's more that Hutton

That's more that Hutton
- VANTEL

Hutton wont make the team. At one point he almost had it but somewhere along the line he lost it.

The following was posted in the last blog, and Nucker requested that I reply to the post, so my response is bolder. Shred away boys


See, here's the problem. First if all, it isn't well said, it is incredibly difficult to read. Secondly, there are several points which are wrong, or rediculous.
It is well stated, it’s all in your perspective, and you shouldn’t comment on the post format when you have your own grammar errors, or ridiculous.

"Sure some bumps along the road getting to this point but its all positive."
-How you can agree that it's all positive when the tire fire has been blazing to Springfield proportions? Yes there are positives, but it is far from all positive.
No you are correct not everything is positive, but everyone views different situations with their own interpretation. You are a pessimist that looks for anything negative in regards to the Canucks management or front office decisions. I am more apathetic and will wait before being Debbie Downer

"What we need is hockey ppl run the hockey side of the biz. Everyone else stay da fuq outta the way."
-Totally agree, but many of the decisions suggest that great hockey minds are not in charge of each different department. Examples include being fined for tampering, only interviewing one candidate for a job, bringing in people who are family friends etc.
I personally have no inside knowledge of what happens in the front office, nothing, nada thing. I would hazard a guess that neither does anyone else here, and if you wish to believe what is written in print media, main stream media or social media sites, then you will make you biased, pessimistic opinions based on those speculative articles. Again I could care less about Linden, Benning or Aquilini, player contracts, what or who are paid what, and I believe that is what the author was conveying.

"This fanbase generally speaking is historically never satisfied"
- What have we had to be satisfied with? Good teams? Yippy, we're more successful than the Sharks.
I’ve been satisfied with many things associated with this team over the years, I’ve been disappointed with many things over the years, it’s life and these emotions happen in all aspects of life.

"[the fans] is most of the problem along with some management being FA mostly."
- I'm sorry, the biggest problem with team success is the fans?
Fans do play a role with the team, and if you follow the negative coverage it all plays some role.

"Everyone likes & wants to be a winner but very few ppl want to be a part of the pain & process."
- I've been a fan since the late 70's, pretty sure I've endured some pain along the way. Does being a fan mean you can't be critical of the organization?
Awesome, it’s great you have been a fan since the late seventies, I moved to the island in 71 from la belle province, I hated the Leafs and the Habs but cheered for Chicago. I adopted the Canucks as my team but still went to every game that Chicago played at the Pacific Colosseum, talk about two awful teams back then, but still a fan. You can be critical of the team, most of the posts here are critical of the team, but I don’t think you should take nighthawks post personally or be defensive because he would rather look at things with a positive outlook than the pessimistic view of several here.

"Thats why democracy is bs & why like it or not most of us are wrong on mostly everything."
- Do I even need to comment on this?
No there is no comment needed by you, it was nighthawks comment on what his impressions on this means to him, and to a certain aspect I agree on some level.

"Til ppl walk in someones shoes they know nada."
- This goes doubly for the author.
And this also goes doubly for you and everyone, a post was made, I agreed with some of his thoughts and stated that. And from what I interpreted from your comments, you disagreed and felt a need to counter every statement, which is your right. Thank god there are differing opinions in life makes life so much more interesting.

The following was posted in the last blog, and Nucker requested that I reply to the post, so my response is bolder. Shred away boys


See, here's the problem. First if all, it isn't well said, it is incredibly difficult to read. Secondly, there are several points which are wrong, or rediculous.
It is well stated, it’s all in your perspective, and you shouldn’t comment on the post format when you have your own grammar errors, or ridiculous.

"Sure some bumps along the road getting to this point but its all positive."
-How you can agree that it's all positive when the tire fire has been blazing to Springfield proportions? Yes there are positives, but it is far from all positive.
No you are correct not everything is positive, but everyone views different situations with their own interpretation. You are a pessimist that looks for anything negative in regards to the Canucks management or front office decisions. I am more apathetic and will wait before being Debbie Downer

"What we need is hockey ppl run the hockey side of the biz. Everyone else stay da fuq outta the way."
-Totally agree, but many of the decisions suggest that great hockey minds are not in charge of each different department. Examples include being fined for tampering, only interviewing one candidate for a job, bringing in people who are family friends etc.
I personally have no inside knowledge of what happens in the front office, nothing, nada thing. I would hazard a guess that neither does anyone else here, and if you wish to believe what is written in print media, main stream media or social media sites, then you will make you biased, pessimistic opinions based on those speculative articles. Again I could care less about Linden, Benning or Aquilini, player contracts, what or who are paid what, and I believe that is what the author was conveying.

"This fanbase generally speaking is historically never satisfied"
- What have we had to be satisfied with? Good teams? Yippy, we're more successful than the Sharks.
I’ve been satisfied with many things associated with this team over the years, I’ve been disappointed with many things over the years, it’s life and these emotions happen in all aspects of life.

"
- Makita[the fans] is most of the problem along with some management being FA mostly."
- I'm sorry, the biggest problem with team success is the fans?
Fans do play a role with the team, and if you follow the negative coverage it all plays some role.

"Everyone likes & wants to be a winner but very few ppl want to be a part of the pain & process."
- I've been a fan since the late 70's, pretty sure I've endured some pain along the way. Does being a fan mean you can't be critical of the organization?
Awesome, it’s great you have been a fan since the late seventies, I moved to the island in 71 from la belle province, I hated the Leafs and the Habs but cheered for Chicago. I adopted the Canucks as my team but still went to every game that Chicago played at the Pacific Colosseum, talk about two awful teams back then, but still a fan. You can be critical of the team, most of the posts here are critical of the team, but I don’t think you should take nighthawks post personally or be defensive because he would rather look at things with a positive outlook than the pessimistic view of several here.

"Thats why democracy is bs & why like it or not most of us are wrong on mostly everything."
- Do I even need to comment on this?
No there is no comment needed by you, it was nighthawks comment on what his impressions on this means to him, and to a certain aspect I agree on some level.

"Til ppl walk in someones shoes they know nada."
- This goes doubly for the author.
And this also goes doubly for you and everyone, a post was made, I agreed with some of his thoughts and stated that. And from what I interpreted from your comments, you disagreed and felt a need to counter every statement, which is your right. Thank god there are differing opinions in life makes life so much more interesting.

I really like you.

I really like you.
- thundachunk

Aw shucks, I really like you too☺️🤗

When Oilers rebuilt they got roasted by the guys in here for not providing veteran leadership. Now that it is us we are criticizing our management .
- VANTEL

4 out 5 dentists tell them so...

Atlantic is weak, I think Buffalo could squeak out a decent season. A lot depends on how Hutton does but healthy eichel/dahlin/middlestadt could make things interesting for them. My (very) dark horse for a wild card this year due to weak division
- neem55

Bergeron Krejci
JT Matthews Kadri
Stamkos Johnson Point
Barkov Trochek

Then it gets weak fast

And since when was Higgins a fan fav? Did you forget how much we all female doged when he was getting top 6 minutes?

He was a solid 3rd liner until he declined. I’ll take that for 2.5M

Just like I can live with Sutter as a shutdown C at 4.5M


Both players were disliked when they were overplayed, they were just fine as role players
- Nucker101

But did you think he was hot?

The following was posted in the last blog, and Nucker requested that I reply to the post, so my response is bolder. Shred away boys


See, here's the problem. First if all, it isn't well said, it is incredibly difficult to read. Secondly, there are several points which are wrong, or rediculous.
It is well stated, it’s all in your perspective, and you shouldn’t comment on the post format when you have your own grammar errors, or ridiculous.

"Sure some bumps along the road getting to this point but its all positive."
-How you can agree that it's all positive when the tire fire has been blazing to Springfield proportions? Yes there are positives, but it is far from all positive.
No you are correct not everything is positive, but everyone views different situations with their own interpretation. You are a pessimist that looks for anything negative in regards to the Canucks management or front office decisions. I am more apathetic and will wait before being Debbie Downer

"What we need is hockey ppl run the hockey side of the biz. Everyone else stay da fuq outta the way."
-Totally agree, but many of the decisions suggest that great hockey minds are not in charge of each different department. Examples include being fined for tampering, only interviewing one candidate for a job, bringing in people who are family friends etc.
I personally have no inside knowledge of what happens in the front office, nothing, nada thing. I would hazard a guess that neither does anyone else here, and if you wish to believe what is written in print media, main stream media or social media sites, then you will make you biased, pessimistic opinions based on those speculative articles. Again I could care less about Linden, Benning or Aquilini, player contracts, what or who are paid what, and I believe that is what the author was conveying.

"This fanbase generally speaking is historically never satisfied"
- What have we had to be satisfied with? Good teams? Yippy, we're more successful than the Sharks.
I’ve been satisfied with many things associated with this team over the years, I’ve been disappointed with many things over the years, it’s life and these emotions happen in all aspects of life.

"
- Makita[the fans] is most of the problem along with some management being FA mostly."
- I'm sorry, the biggest problem with team success is the fans?
Fans do play a role with the team, and if you follow the negative coverage it all plays some role.

"Everyone likes & wants to be a winner but very few ppl want to be a part of the pain & process."
- I've been a fan since the late 70's, pretty sure I've endured some pain along the way. Does being a fan mean you can't be critical of the organization?
Awesome, it’s great you have been a fan since the late seventies, I moved to the island in 71 from la belle province, I hated the Leafs and the Habs but cheered for Chicago. I adopted the Canucks as my team but still went to every game that Chicago played at the Pacific Colosseum, talk about two awful teams back then, but still a fan. You can be critical of the team, most of the posts here are critical of the team, but I don’t think you should take nighthawks post personally or be defensive because he would rather look at things with a positive outlook than the pessimistic view of several here.

"Thats why democracy is bs & why like it or not most of us are wrong on mostly everything."
- Do I even need to comment on this?
No there is no comment needed by you, it was nighthawks comment on what his impressions on this means to him, and to a certain aspect I agree on some level.

"Til ppl walk in someones shoes they know nada."
- This goes doubly for the author.
And this also goes doubly for you and everyone, a post was made, I agreed with some of his thoughts and stated that. And from what I interpreted from your comments, you disagreed and felt a need to counter every statement, which is your right. Thank god there are differing opinions in life makes life so much more interesting.

Good job on the "Man up" challenge.

Good job on the "Man up" challenge.
- Reubenkincade

So you saw Nuckers man up challenge post

The following was posted in the last blog, and Nucker requested that I reply to the post, so my response is bolder. Shred away boys


See, here's the problem. First if all, it isn't well said, it is incredibly difficult to read. Secondly, there are several points which are wrong, or rediculous.
It is well stated, it’s all in your perspective, and you shouldn’t comment on the post format when you have your own grammar errors, or ridiculous.

"Sure some bumps along the road getting to this point but its all positive."
-How you can agree that it's all positive when the tire fire has been blazing to Springfield proportions? Yes there are positives, but it is far from all positive.
No you are correct not everything is positive, but everyone views different situations with their own interpretation. You are a pessimist that looks for anything negative in regards to the Canucks management or front office decisions. I am more apathetic and will wait before being Debbie Downer

"What we need is hockey ppl run the hockey side of the biz. Everyone else stay da fuq outta the way."
-Totally agree, but many of the decisions suggest that great hockey minds are not in charge of each different department. Examples include being fined for tampering, only interviewing one candidate for a job, bringing in people who are family friends etc.
I personally have no inside knowledge of what happens in the front office, nothing, nada thing. I would hazard a guess that neither does anyone else here, and if you wish to believe what is written in print media, main stream media or social media sites, then you will make you biased, pessimistic opinions based on those speculative articles. Again I could care less about Linden, Benning or Aquilini, player contracts, what or who are paid what, and I believe that is what the author was conveying.

"This fanbase generally speaking is historically never satisfied"
- What have we had to be satisfied with? Good teams? Yippy, we're more successful than the Sharks.
I’ve been satisfied with many things associated with this team over the years, I’ve been disappointed with many things over the years, it’s life and these emotions happen in all aspects of life.

"
- Makita[the fans] is most of the problem along with some management being FA mostly."
- I'm sorry, the biggest problem with team success is the fans?
Fans do play a role with the team, and if you follow the negative coverage it all plays some role.

"Everyone likes & wants to be a winner but very few ppl want to be a part of the pain & process."
- I've been a fan since the late 70's, pretty sure I've endured some pain along the way. Does being a fan mean you can't be critical of the organization?
Awesome, it’s great you have been a fan since the late seventies, I moved to the island in 71 from la belle province, I hated the Leafs and the Habs but cheered for Chicago. I adopted the Canucks as my team but still went to every game that Chicago played at the Pacific Colosseum, talk about two awful teams back then, but still a fan. You can be critical of the team, most of the posts here are critical of the team, but I don’t think you should take nighthawks post personally or be defensive because he would rather look at things with a positive outlook than the pessimistic view of several here.

"Thats why democracy is bs & why like it or not most of us are wrong on mostly everything."
- Do I even need to comment on this?
No there is no comment needed by you, it was nighthawks comment on what his impressions on this means to him, and to a certain aspect I agree on some level.

"Til ppl walk in someones shoes they know nada."
- This goes doubly for the author.
And this also goes doubly for you and everyone, a post was made, I agreed with some of his thoughts and stated that. And from what I interpreted from your comments, you disagreed and felt a need to counter every statement, which is your right. Thank god there are differing opinions in life makes life so much more interesting.

Taking all of the above & going back to the ‘70’s its so eerily similar. Only difference is the internet was not around. When we sucked back then fans talked about it face to face aah the good ol days lol

I’ve been a Canucks fan through thick & thin since the mid 60’s. The ups & downs are expected & I enjoyed the highs much more so cuz of it. Some refer to me as a homer. I am a FAN while a homer sees all things bad including the refs & the league & the world as against us. Sure my support is unwavering but i acknowledge other teams honestly when its due to them. I began as a Wings fan in the Original 6 NHL. I grew up on HNIC after my own early morning Saturday games. Watching many decades of crap hockey at 4pm made Canucks games more tolerable than the Leafs. I was forced to listen to Robson which was great in itself. The best there ever was.

Hope that puts a tiger in your tank..

New players a new era...ride the wave

But did you think he was hot?
- A_SteamingLombardi

>>>Sutter

So you saw Nuckers man up challenge post
- Makita

👍

A lot of us thought he’d become one after his rookie season, same with Corrado and Stecher.

Cautionary tales
- Nucker101

He was a top 4 D in his first year.... on the canucks horrible blue line.

The following was posted in the last blog, and Nucker requested that I reply to the post, so my response is bolder. Shred away boys


See, here's the problem. First if all, it isn't well said, it is incredibly difficult to read. Secondly, there are several points which are wrong, or rediculous.
It is well stated, it’s all in your perspective, and you shouldn’t comment on the post format when you have your own grammar errors, or ridiculous.

"Sure some bumps along the road getting to this point but its all positive."
-How you can agree that it's all positive when the tire fire has been blazing to Springfield proportions? Yes there are positives, but it is far from all positive.
No you are correct not everything is positive, but everyone views different situations with their own interpretation. You are a pessimist that looks for anything negative in regards to the Canucks management or front office decisions. I am more apathetic and will wait before being Debbie Downer

"What we need is hockey ppl run the hockey side of the biz. Everyone else stay da fuq outta the way."
-Totally agree, but many of the decisions suggest that great hockey minds are not in charge of each different department. Examples include being fined for tampering, only interviewing one candidate for a job, bringing in people who are family friends etc.
I personally have no inside knowledge of what happens in the front office, nothing, nada thing. I would hazard a guess that neither does anyone else here, and if you wish to believe what is written in print media, main stream media or social media sites, then you will make you biased, pessimistic opinions based on those speculative articles. Again I could care less about Linden, Benning or Aquilini, player contracts, what or who are paid what, and I believe that is what the author was conveying.

"This fanbase generally speaking is historically never satisfied"
- What have we had to be satisfied with? Good teams? Yippy, we're more successful than the Sharks.
I’ve been satisfied with many things associated with this team over the years, I’ve been disappointed with many things over the years, it’s life and these emotions happen in all aspects of life.

"
- Makita[the fans] is most of the problem along with some management being FA mostly."
- I'm sorry, the biggest problem with team success is the fans?
Fans do play a role with the team, and if you follow the negative coverage it all plays some role.

"Everyone likes & wants to be a winner but very few ppl want to be a part of the pain & process."
- I've been a fan since the late 70's, pretty sure I've endured some pain along the way. Does being a fan mean you can't be critical of the organization?
Awesome, it’s great you have been a fan since the late seventies, I moved to the island in 71 from la belle province, I hated the Leafs and the Habs but cheered for Chicago. I adopted the Canucks as my team but still went to every game that Chicago played at the Pacific Colosseum, talk about two awful teams back then, but still a fan. You can be critical of the team, most of the posts here are critical of the team, but I don’t think you should take nighthawks post personally or be defensive because he would rather look at things with a positive outlook than the pessimistic view of several here.

"Thats why democracy is bs & why like it or not most of us are wrong on mostly everything."
- Do I even need to comment on this?
No there is no comment needed by you, it was nighthawks comment on what his impressions on this means to him, and to a certain aspect I agree on some level.

"Til ppl walk in someones shoes they know nada."
- This goes doubly for the author.
And this also goes doubly for you and everyone, a post was made, I agreed with some of his thoughts and stated that. And from what I interpreted from your comments, you disagreed and felt a need to counter every statement, which is your right. Thank god there are differing opinions in life makes life so much more interesting.

https://goo.gl/images/a7ftHt

I don't know how to embed, but.... shred it bro! 🤟🤟🤟🤟

@Makita, whatever man, you’re a ref, so if you want to bust me on the COC that’s your right. You quoted that epic post saying “well said”, and it was anything but. I have no issue with any individual on the site. Have had many good conversations, debates and arguments. The first time I quoted VANTEL he told me to F off, and I deserved it, but so did he. He had just suggested that Rypen was a coke addict, which was why he wasn’t with the team. Turns out I was right.

I’m not a pessimist, I’m critical of the team I cheer for because I care about their success. Silly to care about a billionaire‘s toy? I guess. I disagree with all your points, but that’s why they play the games.

@Makita, whatever man, you’re a ref, so if you want to bust me on the COC that’s your right. You quoted that epic post saying “well said”, and it was anything but. I have no issue with any individual on the site. Have had many good conversations, debates and arguments. The first time I quoted VANTEL he told me to F off, and I deserved it, but so did he. He had just suggested that Rypen was a coke addict, which was why he wasn’t with the team. Turns out I was right.

I’m not a pessimist, I’m critical of the team I cheer for because I care about their success. Silly to care about a billionaire‘s toy? I guess. I disagree with all your points, but that’s why they play the games.
- 1970vintage

Success & being critical is all good. I guess success is a relative term. As for critical my post was an overview mostly about severe criticisms. IMO criticism is ok but over the years many fans just want to beat it to death.

Success & being critical is all good. I guess success is a relative term. As for critical my post was an overview mostly about severe criticisms. IMO criticism is ok but over the years many fans just want to beat it to death.
- Nighthawk

Look, my response wasn't meant to attack you, personally. You ramble, more than Robert Plant. Whatever. But some people feel that their critisism is ok, while others is not. I'm critical of the current management team because they lied to us, the fans. I bought into the re-tool. I gave the group a lot of rope because I understood the plan. Fill in the age gap (using draft picks), sign veteran FA's to help mentor the young players coming in, draft well and gove those players time to develop in their own time. But at every turn they glossed over their mistakes, compounded them by signing their mistakes again, or simply didn't understand the market. I'll be ecstatic if this team turns a corner, but based on the past few years, and the changes this off season, I just dont see that hapening any time soon.

@Makita, whatever man, you’re a ref, so if you want to bust me on the COC that’s your right. You quoted that epic post saying “well said”, and it was anything but. I have no issue with any individual on the site. Have had many good conversations, debates and arguments. The first time I quoted VANTEL he told me to F off, and I deserved it, but so did he. He had just suggested that Rypen was a coke addict, which was why he wasn’t with the team. Turns out I was right.

I’m not a pessimist, I’m critical of the team I cheer for because I care about their success. Silly to care about a billionaire‘s toy? I guess. I disagree with all your points, but that’s why they play the games.
- 1970vintage

Not sure why I would “bust” you, nighthawk made a post based on several points he wanted to address, I liked his post and said so, you made the epic post with a counter point to every statement.

You did nothing against the CoC, you stated your opinions, I in turn did the same...that is the whole premise on what this site was created for. There wasn’t any derogatory comments towards anyone.

I view your posts as a pessimistic because of all the negative posts regarding the team, which I also stated is your right to voice your opinions as you see fit. I have absolutely no issues with you at all, sorry if that is the impression you thought, I was just responding to your points with mine.

I ask this question, because I am a ref should I not be allowed to engage with everyone else like everyone does here.

@Makita, whatever man, you’re a ref, so if you want to bust me on the COC that’s your right. You quoted that epic post saying “well said”, and it was anything but. I have no issue with any individual on the site. Have had many good conversations, debates and arguments. The first time I quoted VANTEL he told me to F off, and I deserved it, but so did he. He had just suggested that Rypen was a coke addict, which was why he wasn’t with the team. Turns out I was right.

I’m not a pessimist, I’m critical of the team I cheer for because I care about their success. Silly to care about a billionaire‘s toy? I guess. I disagree with all your points, but that’s why they play the games.
- 1970vintage

😧

Not sure why I would “bust” you, nighthawk made a post based on several points he wanted to address, I liked his post and said so, you made the epic post with a counter point to every statement.

You did nothing against the CoC, you stated your opinions, I in turn did the same...that is the whole premise on what this site was created for. There wasn’t any derogatory comments towards anyone.

I view your posts as a pessimistic because of all the negative posts regarding the team, which I also stated is your right to voice your opinions as you see fit. I have absolutely no issues with you at all, sorry if that is the impression you thought, I was just responding to your points with mine.

I ask this question, because I am a ref should I not be allowed to engage with everyone else like everyone does here.
- Makita

Your first comment was about the syntax, I figured you were commenting on the COC. As a ref, you are more than welcome to engage with the masses 👍

Your first comment was about the syntax, I figured you were commenting on the COC. As a ref, you are more than welcome to engage with the masses 👍
- 1970vintage

Oh I understand better, no we all know nighthawk sentence and paragraphs formatting is terrible, and yes it is hard to read at times. I was just being a smart ass with a spelling mistake.

Damn, truth bombs getting dropped left and right