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manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Sep 2 @ 1:46 PM ET
Like Woo?
- VANTEL

Quinn Hughes LHD picked ahead of Woo RHD. Again left picked over right.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 2 @ 1:47 PM ET
He will do what's best for the players development. I would rather send a waiver exempt player down, then try and trade another player if they could.

Say Gaudette makes the team over Gaunce. Gaunce goes on waivers and is claimed. 5 games in Gaudette isn't cutting it. Don't have a replacement for him anymore. Why not send Gaudette down to play 20 minutes a night and if he's ready, try and trade someone to open up a spot for him.

- manvanfan



Dahlen Bouchard Goldobin Motte Leipsic

LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Sep 2 @ 1:47 PM ET
He will do what's best for the players development. I would rather send a waiver exempt player down, then try and trade another player if they could.

Say Gaudette makes the team over Gaunce. Gaunce goes on waivers and is claimed. 5 games in Gaudette isn't cutting it. Don't have a replacement for him anymore. Why not send Gaudette down to play 20 minutes a night and if he's ready, try and trade someone to open up a spot for him.

- manvanfan


When you commit to Gaudette, because he earned a spot, you work with him through his lows and ride his highs. Only if he beats the others out though, which shouldn't be hard to do.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 2 @ 1:48 PM ET
Quinn Hughes LHD picked ahead of Woo RHD. Again left picked over right.
- manvanfan



So you think Canucks should have drafted Woo at 7
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Sep 2 @ 1:55 PM ET
When you commit to Gaudette, because he earned a spot, you work with him through his lows and ride his highs. Only if he beats the others out though, which shouldn't be hard to do.
- LeftCoaster


How much better does Gaudette have to be to win a spot? Let’s say it’s between Gaudette, Gagner and Granlund for the 4th C position. I think Manvan has it right. Hoard all the marginal talent for depth, and when injuries occur, which they always do, then you can reward the Gaudette’s of the league with an NHL paycheck. It is also good for relationships with the veteran players. How would it look to future UFA’s if you put Gagner on waivers and sent him to the minors in year 2 of his 3 year deal?
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Sep 2 @ 1:55 PM ET
My son's first flag football season game today (5 years old) and got his first ever touchdown!
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Sep 2 @ 1:57 PM ET
My son's first flag football season game today (5 years old) and got his first ever touchdown!
- Retinalz


Did he get a penalty for his end zone celly?
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Sep 2 @ 1:58 PM ET
Tampa vs Winnipeg for me...
- LeftCoaster

+1
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Sep 2 @ 2:02 PM ET
When you commit to Gaudette, because he earned a spot, you work with him through his lows and ride his highs. Only if he beats the others out though, which shouldn't be hard to do.
- LeftCoaster

Virtanen should never have played in the AHL then.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 2 @ 2:07 PM ET
Virtanen should never have played in the AHL then.
- manvanfan

Gaudette will be 22 in a month and has played 3 development years
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Sep 2 @ 2:09 PM ET
Ross Atkins on Vlad Jr.

"The roster spot is extremely important to us to keep the depth here. Vlad understands it's just one step in the process for him."

On Vlad going to the Arizona league. "the next best natural step for him"

"We are doing everything we can to get Vlad and others to the big leagues as fast as possible, as the best possible player they can be. Using the minor leagues to exhaust that is very important"
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Sep 2 @ 2:14 PM ET
Gaudette will be 22 in a month and has played 3 development years
- VANTEL

In a lesser league.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 2 @ 2:15 PM ET
In a lesser league.
- manvanfan



Boeser played in that lesser league too
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Sep 2 @ 2:16 PM ET
Gaudette will be 22 in a month and has played 3 development years
- VANTEL


Virtanen should have been sent back to the WHL. I agree on Gaudette, he is more mature, physically and mentally. Still, why risk loosing a player for nothing if you can maneuver everyone safely. I'm not talking the Reid Bouchers of the world, they will certainly make it through waivers, but why loose Leipsic if you don't have to?
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Sep 2 @ 2:16 PM ET
Boeser played in that lesser league too
- VANTEL

Do you know the difference in skill between players?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 2 @ 2:18 PM ET
Virtanen should have been sent back to the WHL. I agree on Gaudette, he is more mature, physically and mentally. Still, why risk loosing a player for nothing if you can maneuver everyone safely. I'm not talking the Reid Bouchers of the world, they will certainly make it through waivers, but why loose Leipsic if you don't have to?
- 1970vintage



Leipsic is better than Gaunce so I doubt he gets sent down. We forget Gaudette was the best of the best in that league .
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Sep 2 @ 2:19 PM ET
In a lesser league.
- manvanfan


The top collegiate players are proving that they belong in the NHL, especially those who join after their Junior or Senior year.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Sep 2 @ 2:21 PM ET
Leipsic is better than Gaunce so I doubt he gets sent down. We forget Gaudette was the best of the best in that league .
- VANTEL


Leipsic might be more creative at the offensive end, but I guarantee you that Green would rather have Gaunce on the ice protecting a lead. It just depends which roles are open for competition. I don't think these two players will be battling with each other for a spot on the roster.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 2 @ 2:23 PM ET
Leipsic might be more creative at the offensive end, but I guarantee you that Green would rather have Gaunce on the ice protecting a lead. It just depends which roles are open for competition. I don't think these two players will be battling with each other for a spot on the roster.
- 1970vintage



I think you know yourself the defensive roles are mostly filled this summer.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Sep 2 @ 2:27 PM ET
Quinn Hughes LHD picked ahead of Woo RHD. Again left picked over right.
- manvanfan


Hughes is 100 times the prospect that Woo is.
Now if you'd have said Hughes over Boqvist then you'd have a point.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Sep 2 @ 2:30 PM ET
I was Mittelstadt for the longest time. Troy enlightened me on Pettersson & i was mostly undecided after that.
- Nighthawk


Your last post before the selection was made was "Mittelstadt".
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Sep 2 @ 2:33 PM ET
I think you know yourself the defensive roles are mostly filled this summer.
- VANTEL


I think Beagle is the 3rd C, and shut down line. I also think Rousel will get looks in the top 6. I could see Gaunce earning a spot on LW with Beagle on line 3, or perhaps with Schaller as the 4th C, or even Gaudette, as a kind of defensive conscience of the line. Limited minutes from the 4th.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Sep 2 @ 2:35 PM ET
The top collegiate players are proving that they belong in the NHL, especially those who join after their Junior or Senior year.
- 1970vintage

Kyle Connor 5 points 20 games 52 games in minors (1 year in college)
JT Compher 5 points 21 games 41 games in minors (3 years in college)
Zach Aston Reese 5 points 16 games 41 games in minors (4 years in college)
Alex Kerfoot 43 points in 79 games (4 years in college)
Clayton Keller 65 points in 82 games (1 year in college)
Brock Boeser 55 points in 62 games (2 years in college)
Tyler Motte 7 points in 33 games 43 games in minors (3 years in college)
Jack Eichel 56 points in 81 games (1 year in college)
Evan Rodriques 2 points in 2 games 72 games in minors (4 years in college)
Jimmy Vesey 27 points in 80 games (4 years in college)

Collection of the top scoring players from college over the past couple years. How they did in their first NHL season and how long they stayed in college for.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Sep 2 @ 2:36 PM ET
Hughes is 100 times the prospect that Woo is.
Now if you'd have said Hughes over Boqvist then you'd have a point.

- Pres.cup

That was the point. There have been very good RHD available but JB has gone with the LHD instead. Woo was brought into it by Vantel for some reason. I don't know what that reason was.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 2 @ 2:38 PM ET
I think Beagle is the 3rd C, and shut down line. I also think Rousel will get looks in the top 6. I could see Gaunce earning a spot on LW with Beagle on line 3, or perhaps with Schaller as the 4th C, or even Gaudette, as a kind of defensive conscience of the line. Limited minutes from the 4th.
- 1970vintage



So many possibilities , too hard to guess . I think the best will be the best at training camp. Truthfully I couldn't give a rats ass about losing a fringe player going through waivers. You want to play in the NHL then prove it.
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