It's just wishful thinking that if they ask him he will agree to go. It's not that difficult, if you ask him and negotiate with his agent, maybe he does it. None of the other payers i mentioned have a NTC.
- neem55

I asked you. What teams want them & which teams will they waive to go to?
JB cannot shop them without knowing.

They had third and fourth line toi, not much toi spread around, dude.
- Pres.cup

No time to get you up to speed on the entirety of the whole picture. Study up

You ignore all their TOI has to spread around somewhere. 146pts isn’t nearly as much as you would have us believe.
- Nighthawk

What do you mean? 146 points is 146 points. Am I making it seem like a higher number? I just don’t see the new 2nd line getting anywhere near that, personally I just think that’s realistic. EP is a decent replacement for one of those three. The other two we don’t have replacements for.

No time to get you up to speed on the entirety of the whole picture. Study up
- Nighthawk

What he's saying is, they only actually played about 15 minutes per night each last year... not as much as what you're getting at. Except on the PP, there will be a lot of time given to a couple new faces there. I expect EP to be pp1

The hate seems to be brewing.

What do you mean? 146 points is 146 points. Am I making it seem like a higher number? I just don’t see the new 2nd line getting anywhere near that, personally I just think that’s realistic. EP is a decent replacement for one of those three. The other two we don’t have replacements for.
- neem55

45mins of prime time TOI from the Sedins & Vanek are freed up for others.

That is a lot of PP 5v5 & O-zone minutes

45mins of prime time TOI from the Sedins & Vanek are freed up for others.
- Nighthawk

So who fills those minutes and scores those points? "by committee" sounds like a synonym for "bottom 5 team" to me, also it's a cop out. last year we had 5 50+ point players. This year we have 3. Same d, same goalies (not good). I'm amazed anyone thinks this will be a better team.

So who fills those minutes and scores those points? "by committee" sounds like a synonym for "bottom 5 team" to me, also it's a cop out.
- neem55

Yup all these easy minutes are a cop out

😂😂

Yup all these easy minutes are a cop out

😂😂
- Nighthawk

WHO is capable of scoring 50 points outside of BB, BO and EP?

What is so difficult?

The Sedins & Vanek got the easy minutes.
No PK minutes.
Lots of PP minutes.
O-zone minutes.
D-zone only on icings.

If thats not sheltered then nothing is 😂😂

Now geez i’m guessing others finally get the prime TOI to get some points for a change.

WHO is capable of scoring 50 points outside of BB, BO and EP?
- neem55

Anyone not starting in the D-zone?
45mins free to spread around.

45mins of prime time TOI from the Sedins & Vanek are freed up for others.

That is a lot of PP 5v5 & O-zone minutes
- Nighthawk

What are you even talking about? Who, on this team is going to score an additional 50 points each ×3 next season? Pettersson, sutter? Gagner?
And who is going to replace sutter's points if he's supposed to replace Hanks? Beagle?

Beagle in his best year produced less then Sutter in his worst year, so no.

Do you expect eriksson to break out?
Gagner to throw down some 8 point nights?

Not gonna happen.

The team will be more exciting to watch but put down the rise colored tequila and smell the coffee, team isn't going to be better next year.

Now if you want to shut down the Canucks just rub out Goldy and EP on the boards.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Anyone not starting in the D-zone?
45mins free to spread around.
- Nighthawk[/img]

anyone? That's your answer?

What are you even talking about? Who, on this team is going to score an additional 50 points each ×3 next season? Pettersson, sutter? Gagner?
And who is going to replace sutter's points if he's supposed to replace Hanks? Beagle?

Beagle in his best year produced less then Sutter in his worst year, so no.

Do you expect eriksson to break out?
Gagner to throw down some 8 point nights?

Not gonna happen.

The team will be more exciting to watch but put down the rise colored tequila and smell the coffee, team isn't going to be better next year.
- Pres.cup

Listen to me boy...
Listen to me boy...
Your too short boy...
Everything goes over your head boy ...sheesh - Foghorn Leghorn

So who fills those minutes and scores those points? "by committee" sounds like a synonym for "bottom 5 team" to me, also it's a cop out. last year we had 5 50+ point players. This year we have 3. Same d, same goalies (not good). I'm amazed anyone thinks this will be a better team.
- neem55

They're not better, they'll be hard-pressed to even equal last year. But that's a good thing, we need one more "building" year.

They may command more of the middle of the ice, however, that'll be offset by the reduction in points from some veteran players as I don't see them fully replacing those points.

Anyone not starting in the D-zone?
45mins free to spread around.
- Nighthawk

Wow...
So.... any player can score 50 with the twins TOI?
Yup, and I could play bass like bob Marley if someone would let me on the stage.

anyone? That's your answer?
- neem55

The pom pom is strong in this one.

What are you even talking about? Who, on this team is going to score an additional 50 points each ×3 next season? Pettersson, sutter? Gagner?
And who is going to replace sutter's points if he's supposed to replace Hanks? Beagle?

Beagle in his best year produced less then Sutter in his worst year, so no.

Do you expect eriksson to break out?
Gagner to throw down some 8 point nights?

Not gonna happen.

The team will be more exciting to watch but put down the rise colored tequila and smell the coffee, team isn't going to be better next year.
- Pres.cup

anyone? That's your answer?
- neem55

Yup

Sedins/Vanek never started there when it could be avoided. All the others had the tough starts. Again that leaves the 45mins of TOI they had. Want me to repeat it?

Listen to me boy...
Listen to me boy...
Your too short boy...
Everything goes over your head boy ...sheesh - Foghorn Leghorn
- Nighthawk

Go to bed, nighty, you're drunk.

They're not better, they'll be hard-pressed to even equal last year. But that's a good thing, we need one more "building" year.

They may command more of the middle of the ice, however, that'll be offset by the reduction in points from some veteran players as I don't see them fully replacing those points.
- LeftCoaster

Yeah I agree with both points, we need another bottom 5 finish and barring multiple breakout seasons (it's conceivable Goldy gets 20 goals IMO) that's what were likely to get. Will be a bt tougher up the middle, I like that. Scoring will be a major issue though and Beoser/Bo will be facing the shutdown line every night this year.

- A_SteamingLombardi

pretty much

Wow...
So.... any player can score 50 with the twins TOI?
Yup, and I could play bass like bob Marley if someone would let me on the stage.
- Pres.cup

Who said 50pts by a player?
You must suck at the bass.

Yup

Sedins/Vanek never started there when it could be avoided. All the others had the tough starts. Again that leaves the 45mins of TOI they had. Want me to repeat it?
- Nighthawk

You're full on delusional if you think anyone can step onto the PP1 or ozone starts (hank and danny's ice time) and produce 50 points like they did.