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1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Sep 6 @ 11:48 AM ET
Where are you pulling those numbers from? The stats I saw said 27.5 in January last year. Plus as I said the number now is somewhere between 25.4 and 26

edit: I forgot about Jokinen being added in Feb. But the point remains

- NorthNuck


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bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: A dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Sep 6 @ 11:50 AM ET
And stop talking about Booth killing bears or deer or whatever it was.
- 1970vintage


I think people stopped talking Booth years ago.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 6 @ 11:51 AM ET
The date is so that rosters are pretty much set, as opposed to doing it when the season starts. Also, Jossi? Do you mean Joker, who wasn’t included in this because he was acquired at the deadline. Yes, Vanek and Sedins gone will bring the average down slightly, but if Beagle Rousel replace Gaunce and Dowde then the average goes up.
- 1970vintage




Truthfully I could't give a sh1t. Age is not a problem We have 4 players between the age of 30-33 and one of them is a spare .

Just another meaningless stat to crap on the Canucks.

I am looking forward to this TDL when Canucks trade Sutter OJ and Jake for Panarin
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Sep 6 @ 11:51 AM ET
He's passed out.
- Marwood


Mornin Dimwood
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Sep 6 @ 11:53 AM ET
How many teams have 23 players under the age of 25. Weren't we like 12th or 16 th?


We have 4 players including Beiga ages 30 -33

- VANTEL


Forwards statistically peak at 25.
So hobgoblin, horvat, boeser and Gaunce can all improve statistically based on historical data. All the other players will statistically decline based on historical data.

They obviously won't all improve or decline but the odds are they will.

Add in pettersson for added points and I still think we're not going to be an improving club. More entertaining, yes.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Sep 6 @ 11:53 AM ET
They weren't nearly as awful as Goldobin. Not even close.
Goldobin is a career AHL'er.

- Marwood

They were only bad defensively the past couple years when it was really hard for them to keep up anymore, one of them was +147 for his career and the other was +165. False narrative that they were always bad defensively.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Sep 6 @ 11:53 AM ET
That is a good thing.👍
- Reubenkincade


Yes. About time we have fresh blood getting the O-zone & PP starts. See what the kids can do.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Sep 6 @ 11:58 AM ET
First of all my predictions were for this upcoming year and not what TROLLBOY was suggesting that I said career. I never once mentioned career but like everything else he needs to add his own twist. (Suprising no one likes him )

I doubt Bo's end numbers will ever match Heriks seeing he will more than likely be a number 2 center.

Brock has been at the top of the list everywhere he plays . Not making any predictions but I do expect good things from him.

- VANTEL


I've contacted captainEO about your abusive cyber bullying.
Anonymous forums are no place for strong unsubstantiated opinions.

Good day sir.

Could you please all your wife to stop sending me letters, I gave her my number and told her to text me, I've changed my mind. [/img]
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Sep 6 @ 11:58 AM ET
career years for everyone!
- Pres.cup


Starts with EP...
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Sep 6 @ 11:58 AM ET
Truthfully I could't give a sh1t. Age is not a problem We have 4 players between the age of 30-33 and one of them is a spare .

Just another meaningless stat to crap on the Canucks.

I am looking forward to this TDL when Canucks trade Sutter OJ and Jake for Panarin

- VANTEL


When I mention age it is only to put into context the expectation for improvement in the roster. They players who are still growing into the league are more likely to improve than someone who has been there a long time. I’m not saying age is a problem, only that the bigger steps in improvement will happen when the team is actually in a younger stage, which isn’t quite yet. Only my opinion, and I already know you don’t agree
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Sep 6 @ 12:00 PM ET
They don’t even have to have “career” years. As in, their ppg averages don’t have to improve drastically for this to be realistic. If 🐻 🧀 simply plays 70+ games at his normal pace he will replace a Sedin points. Yes, it would be a new career high for him, but he doesn’t have to improve his game, only play most of them, and with more games, and more favorable opportunities, he should produce.

If they experience injuries at the same pace again it could be pretty bad though.

What’s the fewest number of goals a team has scored in a season (82 game pace)?

- 1970vintage


Watch out bro. Pres was banging her head against a wall last night trying to understand. GL 😂😂
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 6 @ 12:04 PM ET
Forwards statistically peak at 25.
So hobgoblin, horvat, boeser and Gaunce can all improve statistically based on historical data. All the other players will statistically decline based on historical data.

They obviously won't all improve or decline but the odds are they will.

Add in pettersson for added points and I still think we're not going to be an improving club. More entertaining, yes.

- Pres.cup



Average Length of an NHL Player Career

A typical career of an NHL player can be summarized with one word. Its short! Over half of all NHL players play less that 100 games during their career and for approximately 5 percent of players, their first NHL game is also their last. If we look at this from a different angle, long careers are extremely rare. Only 4 percent of players (that's 1 out of 25) dress up for more than 1000 games.

Data includes all forwards, defensemen and goaltenders who played their last regular season NHL game before or during the 2013-2014 season.


When you take averages it is a very subjective number.

I believe fringe players like Granlund Goldobin and others will peak at 25 for their short careers .

Guys like Boeser and Bo will peak around 24 but carry it on into their early thirties.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Sep 6 @ 12:04 PM ET
The date is so that rosters are pretty much set, as opposed to doing it when the season starts. Also, Jossi? Do you mean Joker, who wasn’t included in this because he was acquired at the deadline. Yes, Vanek and Sedins gone will bring the average down slightly, but if Beagle Rousel replace Gaunce and Dowde then the average goes up.
- 1970vintage

Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Sep 6 @ 12:05 PM ET
Mornin Dimwood
- Nighthawk


He woke up
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 6 @ 12:08 PM ET
I've contacted captainEO about your abusive cyber bullying.
Anonymous forums are no place for strong unsubstantiated opinions.

Good day sir.

Could you please all your wife to stop sending me letters, I gave her my number and told her to text me, I've changed my mind.

- Pres.cup[/img]



Hard to believe no one likes you

You do make me laugh sometimes though.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Sep 6 @ 12:08 PM ET
He sobered up

- Pres.cup



Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Sep 6 @ 12:08 PM ET
Truthfully I could't give a sh1t. Age is not a problem We have 4 players between the age of 30-33 and one of them is a spare .

Just another meaningless stat to crap on the Canucks.

I am looking forward to this TDL when Canucks trade Sutter OJ and Jake for Panarin

- VANTEL


Slight over payment but I would pull it out and start pulling it if we landed Panarin, dude has serious game.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Sep 6 @ 12:09 PM ET
Leadership is not determined by age, it is an intrinsic character. Just look at Don, he is an old (frank)er and not much of a leader in these parts, slapping his boss and all
- 1970vintage

Vinty you haven’t played hockey it’s obvious
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Sep 6 @ 12:12 PM ET
Vinty you haven’t played hockey it’s obvious
- CanuckDon


You’re full of crap, which is also obvious

I’m sure there are lots of leaders in the dressing room of your old timers team, and your squad is always out leadering the young guys you play against.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Sep 6 @ 12:14 PM ET
Average Length of an NHL Player Career

A typical career of an NHL player can be summarized with one word. Its short! Over half of all NHL players play less that 100 games during their career and for approximately 5 percent of players, their first NHL game is also their last. If we look at this from a different angle, long careers are extremely rare. Only 4 percent of players (that's 1 out of 25) dress up for more than 1000 games.

Data includes all forwards, defensemen and goaltenders who played their last regular season NHL game before or during the 2013-2014 season.


When you take averages it is a very subjective number.

I believe fringe players like Granlund Goldobin and others will peak at 25 for their short careers .

Guys like Boeser and Bo will peak around 24 but carry it on into their early thirties.

- VANTEL


I agree with this. Not many of our older players are offensively talented though. Brock and Bo should improve and have long careers, sutter isn't likely going to have a carr year and neither is beagle. The improvements for the team will be in entertainment value and learning the nuances of the nhl, not more points or wins.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Sep 6 @ 12:15 PM ET
Hard to believe no one likes you

You do make me laugh sometimes though.

- VANTEL



Nobody likes trump but he's the president....
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Sep 6 @ 12:15 PM ET

- 1970vintage



Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Sep 6 @ 12:17 PM ET
Vinty you haven’t played hockey it’s obvious
- CanuckDon

VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 6 @ 12:17 PM ET
When I mention age it is only to put into context the expectation for improvement in the roster. They players who are still growing into the league are more likely to improve than someone who has been there a long time. I’m not saying age is a problem, only that the bigger steps in improvement will happen when the team is actually in a younger stage, which isn’t quite yet. Only my opinion, and I already know you don’t agree
- 1970vintage


We agree on some things and disagree on others.

I think the biggest issue it the perception of the team with the fans and media (my take only)

I think hearing that we have the top 5 prospect pool that people think it means they are ready now. That is so far from the truth. Some of these guys are 2-3 years away if they make it at all.

I bet if you asked who is our best D prospect right now besides Hughes people would answer OJ.

He is probably 3 or 4 th . Briesbois and Sautner both have played in the AHL and were very steady. As you seen when Sautner came up he did not look out of place at all . He had 2 assists in 5 games and I think the team won all 5 games. I think OJ needs a year in the AHL .

The same on the offence . You had guys like Goldobin and Boucher who were the driving force of the Comets last year but everyone has Dahlen as the guy close to ready. I think even though Dahlen may play next year 2020 he may be still years away from being an impact player.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 6 @ 12:20 PM ET

Nobody likes trump but he's the president....

- Pres.cup



He is also a dumb ass
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