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Forums :: Blog World :: Michael Pachla: Building the 2018-19 Buffalo Sabres roster--RHD, Zach Bogosian
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adambuffalo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 01.30.2007

Sep 10 @ 10:22 AM ET
Pacioretty replaces the outgoing James Neal, but at an extremely high asset cost. If they can sign Pacioretty to a reasonable extension, then it looks better. If they win the cup, of course it's irrelevant what they gave up. But if they regress this year, losing 4 picks in the first 3 rounds will kill you. They're going to pay the piper for trading away all of these picks and prospects
- jcragcrumple


And they have moved almost all of them
- Stripes77



This is according to Capfriendly:

Vegas Golden Knights draft picks
2019 1st, 2nd, (3) 3rds, 4th, (2) 5ths, 6th
2020 1st, (3) 2nds, 3,4,5,6 and 7th
2021 1,2,4,5,6 and 7th

I wouldn't say they are trading away all of their assets. Plenty of picks still to keep the cupboard stacked. I do agree though that they gave way too much for Tatar. With a team firing on the all cylinders, the trade did not make any sense.
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Sep 10 @ 10:47 AM ET
This is according to Capfriendly:

Vegas Golden Knights draft picks
2019 1st, 2nd, (3) 3rds, 4th, (2) 5ths, 6th
2020 1st, (3) 2nds, 3,4,5,6 and 7th
2021 1,2,4,5,6 and 7th

I wouldn't say they are trading away all of their assets. Plenty of picks still to keep the cupboard stacked. I do agree though that they gave way too much for Tatar. With a team firing on the all cylinders, the trade did not make any sense.

- adambuffalo



They wont be pulling an Ottawa this season, you can bet on that
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Sep 10 @ 10:50 AM ET
They wont be pulling an Ottawa this season, you can bet on that
- washedup20



Out of all they got though right now they only have 2 extra seconds and some extra 3rd and 4ths...

Not exactly a stock pile anymore
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Sep 10 @ 11:03 AM ET
After watching the prospects challenge:

Yeah, Dahlin is a freak.

Tage Thompson looks to be a good one too. Really impressed with what he brought. Good hands, needs to keep his shot on net, but has a lot of good skills. Retrieving pucks, skating, stick handling, shooting, he seems to have a pretty good grasp of all of it.

Tage is making this team E4.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Sep 10 @ 11:05 AM ET
Montreal got worse. So, that's fun.
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Sep 10 @ 11:36 AM ET
After watching the prospects challenge:

Yeah, Dahlin is a freak.

Tage Thompson looks to be a good one too. Really impressed with what he brought. Good hands, needs to keep his shot on net, but has a lot of good skills. Retrieving pucks, skating, stick handling, shooting, he seems to have a pretty good grasp of all of it.

Tage is making this team E4.

- RhinoFan

They are keeping Dahlin, Tage, Guhle, Pekar, Cornel, Bisson and Borgen out of the game today.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Sep 10 @ 11:41 AM ET
They are keeping Dahlin, Tage, Guhle, Pekar, Cornel, Bisson and Borgen out of the game today.
- jochfr


They seem to like this Cosky kid. Look for him to earn an AHL contract.

Also, they didn't bother inviting Brycen Martin or Vaclav Karabacek, yet they invited Cornel. It's no surprise Cornel is the best of the 3, but I think it also says a lot of about the other two.
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Sep 10 @ 11:46 AM ET
They seem to like this Cosky kid. Look for him to earn an AHL contract.
- TheSabresTaco

Looked good in the 1st game... I didn't watch the 2nd game against boston.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Sep 10 @ 11:50 AM ET
Looked good in the 1st game... I didn't watch the 2nd game against boston.
- jochfr


Both games he played pretty well. Noticeable. Helps create space for the more talented puck handlers.
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Sep 10 @ 11:50 AM ET
Good deal for the Knights, Tatar stinks.
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Sep 10 @ 11:58 AM ET
They are keeping Dahlin, Tage, Guhle, Pekar, Cornel, Bisson and Borgen out of the game today.
- jochfr


To me, Dahlin doesn't belong there. He's obviously so far ahead of everyone else on that surface...

I understand wanting to see him, but pulling those guys out is probably for the best.
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Sep 10 @ 12:03 PM ET
Good deal for the Knights, Tatar stinks.
- SABRES 89


Yeah I really wonder about that team.

Suzuki is a good prospect. But why take back Tatar and that contract, given his struggles. They basically got a good prospect and a 2nd rounder, plus a semi-cap dump. Did Vegas a favor IMO.

Montreal will be bad for years to come OR Bergevin will be fired soon.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Sep 10 @ 12:07 PM ET
Yeah I really wonder about that team.

Suzuki is a good prospect. But why take back Tatar and that contract, given his struggles. They basically got a good prospect and a 2nd rounder, plus a semi-cap dump. Did Vegas a favor IMO.

Montreal will be bad for years to come OR Bergevin will be fired soon.

- RhinoFan


They needed an NHL player for the wing. In a slower system, Tatar was a pretty decent player. Montreal is not that fast, he'll probably fit in pretty well. Now they have a locked in middle pairing LW/RW for the next few years, and get Suzuki in the mean time. They know they'll suck, so the trade was all about grabbing a high quality prospect, and a plug to replace Patch. Hopefully, for Vegas' sake, they didn't pull a Forsberg.
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Sep 10 @ 12:07 PM ET
To me, Dahlin doesn't belong there. He's obviously so far ahead of everyone else on that surface...

I understand wanting to see him, but pulling those guys out is probably for the best.

- RhinoFan

Agreed
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Sep 10 @ 12:07 PM ET
To me, Dahlin doesn't belong there. He's obviously so far ahead of everyone else on that surface...

I understand wanting to see him, but pulling those guys out is probably for the best.

- RhinoFan


Can't imagine the Monday at 12:30 game being too popular for the fans anyways. Makes sense to hold all of them out and get a look at the other guys. Casey and Nylander have a lot to prove today though.
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Sep 10 @ 12:08 PM ET
They needed an NHL player for the wing. In a slower system, Tatar was a pretty decent player. Montreal is not that fast, he'll probably fit in pretty well. Now they have a locked in middle pairing LW/RW for the next few years, and get Suzuki in the mean time. They know they'll suck, so the trade was all about grabbing a high quality prospect, and a plug to replace Patch. Hopefully, for Vegas' sake, they didn't pull a Forsberg.
- TheSabresTaco

Sabres1523
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 12.27.2016

Sep 10 @ 12:14 PM ET
Pacioretty replaces the outgoing James Neal, but at an extremely high asset cost. If they can sign Pacioretty to a reasonable extension, then it looks better. If they win the cup, of course it's irrelevant what they gave up. But if they regress this year, losing 4 picks in the first 3 rounds will kill you. They're going to pay the piper for trading away all of these picks and prospects
- jcragcrumple


IMO last year was a lucky year for Vegas, I cannot see them getting back to the finals, I think they could even regress enough to miss the playoffs.
I cant see karlsson scoring 40 again this year, I think they rod the "nobody believes in us train" right to the finals, and that was impressive, I just don't think that's a realistic expectation for them this year.
Just my 2 cents
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Sep 10 @ 12:23 PM ET
Montreal got worse. So, that's fun.
- TheSabresTaco

Did they pay the PRICE?!?!
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Sep 10 @ 12:24 PM ET
Peterman is just destroying records
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Sep 10 @ 12:31 PM ET
IMO last year was a lucky year for Vegas, I cannot see them getting back to the finals, I think they could even regress enough to miss the playoffs.
I cant see karlsson scoring 40 again this year, I think they rod the "nobody believes in us train" right to the finals, and that was impressive, I just don't think that's a realistic expectation for them this year.
Just my 2 cents

- Sabres1523


Marchessault isn't going to shoot at 25% either
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Sep 10 @ 12:39 PM ET
Odd, no non-local black out today.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Sep 10 @ 12:43 PM ET
Odd, no non-local black out today.
- Lunaion

It says on Sabres.com that there is supposed to be one. The IT folks must have forget to check a setting or two.
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Sep 10 @ 12:53 PM ET
They needed an NHL player for the wing. In a slower system, Tatar was a pretty decent player. Montreal is not that fast, he'll probably fit in pretty well. Now they have a locked in middle pairing LW/RW for the next few years, and get Suzuki in the mean time. They know they'll suck, so the trade was all about grabbing a high quality prospect, and a plug to replace Patch. Hopefully, for Vegas' sake, they didn't pull a Forsberg.
- TheSabresTaco


Not knocking the Suzuki pickup, but disagree about Tatar. He was on the downslope in Detroit, got moved to a better team and his production fell of the face of the earth. Tatar has a big cap hit that Vegas was going to have a hard time moving. They gave up a 30g scorer for a good prospect (Suzuki) a 2nd and a cap dump for Vegas. To me, they got shafted worse than CAR with Skinner. At least with Skinner, they got multiple picks back and didn't have to eat salary.
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Sep 10 @ 12:54 PM ET
Can't imagine the Monday at 12:30 game being too popular for the fans anyways. Makes sense to hold all of them out and get a look at the other guys. Casey and Nylander have a lot to prove today though.
- Pegullaville


Yeah, wish they had just done it on Sunday. With the NFL opening weekend and the need for rest, I get it, but a Sunday final would have at least drew viewership. Monday at 12:30, when most are working, seems to be a misstep.
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Sep 10 @ 12:59 PM ET
Sucks UPL isn't playing.

Never been a big fan after his Olympic showings. He played well in game 2. Why not go back to him instead of giving JJ time...knowing full well he isn't the answer?
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