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BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

Sep 12 @ 11:42 AM ET
While the return you're suggesting is laughable.

I've been saying for a while adding Shea Weber to the Leafs would make them just that much stronger.

I hope it never happens.

- Scabeh


seriously what do you believe Bergevin would get in a trade for Weber?

declining health, age, gigantic anchor of a contract, contract duration... seriously, what could you get in return?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 12 @ 11:43 AM ET
And I can't be bothered to look it up, if any make the Leafs it'll be 4th line duty.
Won't be making any bonuses from there.

- bobbyisno1


You can't look it up. All you can look up is what it could possibly be for and for how much. The specifics aren't available.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Sep 12 @ 11:44 AM ET
You think Mark Stone is worth that much? I wouldnt trade Pavel Zacha for Mark Strone staright up.
- Archaic

I think that's the closest one to being fair.
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Sep 12 @ 11:47 AM ET
seriously ... you expect a Habtard to even begin to understand "equal reffing"?
- BorjeFan4Ever

I know, if the were wearing rouge blanc and bleu it would have been 13 penalities against Boston and 2 against the rouge blanc and bleu in those 2 first games in Boston.
.HOHO.
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Its better to let people think you're an idiot, than to open your mouth and confirm their suspicions, NS
Joined: 07.05.2010

Sep 12 @ 11:49 AM ET
If I was Dorion

Erik Karlsson to the Avs for Ott 1st rounder, Col 1st rounder (condition that he -resigns), Cam Morrison and Tyson Barrie

Mark Stone to the Devils for 1st rounder, Pavel Zacha and Steven Santini

Matt Duchene to the Sabres for SJ 1st rounder, STL 1st rounder and Zemgus Girgensons

- AdamFrench


(frank) Frenchie,
YOU HIGH?
Ottawa won't get NEARLY that from any of those teams!

PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Sep 12 @ 11:49 AM ET
we should start a pool to guess what rare condition Marleau suddenly comes down with that makes him unable to play after this season
- senstroll


my money is on jock itch
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Sep 12 @ 11:49 AM ET
seriously what do you believe Bergevin would get in a trade for Weber?

declining health, age, gigantic anchor of a contract, contract duration... seriously, what could you get in return?

- BorjeFan4Ever


Sure he's 33 years old, yes his contract pays him 7.3M per season until he's 41, yes he's been injured seriously for the first time in his career (which doesn't make him injury prone yet btw)

He's still, and will remain, a first pairing defenseman for years to come. Hell, he'd be the best defenseman on the Leafs.

If you think most teams wouldn't jump on the possibility of adding Shea (frank)ing Weber to their team, I believe you are mistaken.

He's much more valuable to a team than you give him credit for.

Imho of course.
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Sep 12 @ 11:50 AM ET
You can't look it up. All you can look up is what it could possibly be for and for how much. The specifics aren't available.
- MJL

The Leafs first 3 lines are set, only 4th line duties left, won't make any bouses from there.
Only one possibe is Liljegren, But he doesn't look ready.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Sep 12 @ 11:50 AM ET
I think that's the closest one to being fair.
- AdamFrench


I don't think you made it obvious enough the comment didn't come from you.
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

Sep 12 @ 11:50 AM ET
I know, if the were wearing rouge blanc and bleu it would have been 13 penalities against Boston and 2 against the rouge blanc and bleu in those 2 first games in Boston.
- bobbyisno1


if the Habs had been in the same situation in the 7th game... there would have been a bench minor against the Bruins for some imagined offense, for example too many men on the ice, along with a stick measurement or two until the officials found one that was either "too curved" or "too worn down" or "too something"....

plus at least 3 or 4 goal interference calls against the Bruins for looking angrily at Carey Price
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Sep 12 @ 11:51 AM ET
if the Habs had been in the same situation in the 7th game... there would have been a bench minor against the Bruins for some imagined offense, for example too many men on the ice, along with a stick measurement or two until the officials found one that was either "too curved" or "too worn down" or "too something"....

plus at least 3 or 4 goal interference calls against the Bruins for looking angrily at Carey Price

- BorjeFan4Ever


Well we do have a history of beating Boston in the playoffs.

Unlike other teams I know.
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Sep 12 @ 11:51 AM ET
(frank) Frenchie,
YOU HIGH?
Ottawa won't get NEARLY that from any of those teams!


- .HOHO.

Someones high, wish it was me.
Plus he copied and pasted.
Ear Hole
Location: Halifax
Joined: 07.18.2018

Sep 12 @ 11:53 AM ET
Sure he's 33 years old, yes his contract pays him 7.3M per season until he's 41, yes he's been injured seriously for the first time in his career (which doesn't make him injury prone yet btw)

He's still, and will remain, a first pairing defenseman for years to come. Hell, he'd be the best defenseman on the Leafs.

If you think most teams wouldn't jump on the possibility of adding Shea (frank)ing Weber to their team, I believe you are mistaken.

He's much more valuable to a team than you give him credit for.

Imho of course.

- Scabeh



However, if he does not play this year, he is trying to make a come back after being off nearly 2 years at the age of 34 with 7 years remaining at 7.3 mill.

He better be Superman.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Sep 12 @ 11:54 AM ET
The Leafs first 3 lines are set, only 4th line duties left, won't make any bouses from there.
Only one possibe is Liljegren, But he doesn't look ready.

- bobbyisno1


Bonus's could just be games played....
ClarksonDavid
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Rielly wouldn't, crack top 4 on the sens team -PtotheY, SK
Joined: 03.15.2014

Sep 12 @ 11:55 AM ET
Sure it does, they are up against the cap at the end of the year without him on LTIR they can put him on it to have the space to pay the bonuses.
- bobbyisno1

Don’t think you can use LTIR for bonus space. Has to be actual cap space.
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Sep 12 @ 11:55 AM ET
Bonus's could just be games played....
- Garnie

The easiest one to not have to pay out.
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

Sep 12 @ 11:57 AM ET
Sure he's 33 years old, yes his contract pays him 7.3M per season until he's 41, yes he's been injured seriously for the first time in his career (which doesn't make him injury prone yet btw)

He's still, and will remain, a first pairing defenseman for years to come. Hell, he'd be the best defenseman on the Leafs.

If you think most teams wouldn't jump on the possibility of adding Shea (frank)ing Weber to their team, I believe you are mistaken.

He's much more valuable to a team than you give him credit for.

Imho of course.

- Scabeh


there's no question that a healthy Weber would be able to help many teams.. .but the big question is at what cost?

Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Sep 12 @ 11:58 AM ET
The easiest one to not have to pay out.
- bobbyisno1


Maybe, unless he's playing great....the cap guy will figure it all out...if they end up having to trade someone due to salaries etc...so be it. Good spot to be in....compared to our recent history *cough 40-50 years*
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Sep 12 @ 11:58 AM ET
Don’t think you can use LTIR for bonus space. Has to be actual cap space.
- ClarksonDavid

I'm not a capolagist or a lawyer, but I think the team has this figured out.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Sep 12 @ 11:58 AM ET
Sure he's 33 years old, yes his contract pays him 7.3M per season until he's 41, yes he's been injured seriously for the first time in his career (which doesn't make him injury prone yet btw)

He's still, and will remain, a first pairing defenseman for years to come. Hell, he'd be the best defenseman on the Leafs.

If you think most teams wouldn't jump on the possibility of adding Shea (frank)ing Weber to their team, I believe you are mistaken.

He's much more valuable to a team than you give him credit for.

Imho of course.

- Scabeh


The Cap hit of $7.8M per season until the end of time will scare teams away.. Plus, his salary doesn't really drop until the 2022-23 season.
Maybe, you can trade him to Arizona in 2023? Assuming, Arizona still has a team then..
Ear Hole
Location: Halifax
Joined: 07.18.2018

Sep 12 @ 11:59 AM ET
Maybe, unless he's playing great....the cap guy will figure it all out...if they end up having to trade someone due to salaries etc...so be it. Good spot to be in....compared to our recent history *cough 40-50 years*

- Garnie



I agree, good problem to have.
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Sep 12 @ 11:59 AM ET
there's no question that a healthy Weber would be able to help many teams.. .but the big question is at what cost?
- BorjeFan4Ever

2 scrubs and a second, just like Patches.
ClarksonDavid
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Rielly wouldn't, crack top 4 on the sens team -PtotheY, SK
Joined: 03.15.2014

Sep 12 @ 12:00 PM ET
I'm not a capolagist or a lawyer, but I think the team has this figured out.
- bobbyisno1

Not saying they don’t and seems like they do since they’re not using all there cap space.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Sep 12 @ 12:00 PM ET
2 scrubs and a second, just like Patches.
- bobbyisno1



Just giving it to the hab fans today.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Sep 12 @ 12:03 PM ET
there's no question that a healthy Weber would be able to help many teams.. .but the big question is at what cost?
- BorjeFan4Ever


I'd expect the return to be better than Pacioretty's to be honest.

Or at the very least in the same ballpark.
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