He's a Leaf now???
- 21peter

In their dreams man.

Tavares playing tonight?
- HealthyScratch6

Every guy that has size and can hit have JUST been let go from the Leafs, doesn't seem they care about that.
- Garnie

They got rid of the guys who only hit. I'm saying, grab a guy with some sand paper who has some skill too. Brouwer is a multiple time 20 goal scorer, played on fast teams before, crash and bang character guy. I'd rather give him a 1 year deal than Ennis. At least you're adding something different to the team instead of another small guy who'll get thrown around or injured when the games get tough in the playoffs.

Come on man

He was injured. He has a chance to be healthy and play the way he can. Which if you actually dive into the stats instead of looking at hockey DB

You will find he has been effective. If he can stay healthy he can be an effective payer on the bottom of the lineup.

Or just sign Troy Brouwer like you said
- Santo_44

Horrible career possession numbers. Dive into those stats.

Yeah, sign a guy with some size, a pedigree for scoring. At least get a different kind of player and not the same type of guy they already have 10 of.

In their dreams man.
- Scabeh

cocky baztards

Horrible career possession numbers. Dive into those stats.

Yeah, sign a guy with some size, a pedigree for scoring. At least get a different kind of player and not the same type of guy they already have 10 of.
- Unholy_Goalie

Ennis?

Horrible career possession numbers. Dive into those stats.

Yeah, sign a guy with some size, a pedigree for scoring. At least get a different kind of player and not the same type of guy they already have 10 of.
- Unholy_Goalie

Lol

How did I know you were the type of guy to use advanced stats but so horribly wrong? Again stop looking at hockey DB and (frank)ing Corsi. You are making a fool of yourself

Read from someone who actually dives deep in these types of stats and players and not just look at a hockey DB page like yourself.

Per Wheeler if the Athletic




In just 11:58 average time on ice, Ennis produced reasonably well for a depth forward. Among the 10 Wild forwards who played more than 800 minutes at 5-on-5 last season, Ennis finished seventh in points per 60 minutes (1.31) and primary points per 60 minutes (0.87). Throughout, he generated shots at an extremely high rate for his usage, putting 14 individual shot attempts on net (third to Eric Staal and Jason Zucker) per 60 minutes at 5-on-5.

Ultimately, that resulted in decent outcomes (at least in the context that among the 25 players who played more than a handful of games for the Wild this season Ennis was 21st in average TOI) in terms of his impact on goals.

He also did a reasonable job defensively, playing to an even goal differential (28-28), an expected goal differential of 55.6 per cent (sixth on the team), and a rate of 57.7 shot attempts against per 60 minutes at even strength (sixth among the team’s 12 regular forwards, and a rate that would have been good for fourth among Leafs forwards).

Throughout, he did this while playing primarily with an aging Matt Cullen, who had a 46 CF% with Ennis as his linemate for nearly 300 minutes, and a 38 CF% in almost 500 minutes without him.

While Ennis has never been a strong finisher or shooter (his career shooting percentage is just 9.7 per cent), it appears that skill has diminished in the last three seasons even further. We know that luck is always at play in low shooting percentages, but the sample size is now large enough on Ennis (his shooting percentage has ranged from 5.3 per cent to seven per cent for three straight seasons now, way below league average) that regression isn’t likely to bring him back as far to the norm as you might expect.

Still, a closer look at the Wild’s forwards actually reveals that it was Ennis’ individual shooting percentage (5.56 per cent) at 5-on-5 which held him back the most:

Horrible career possession numbers. Dive into those stats.

Yeah, sign a guy with some size, a pedigree for scoring. At least get a different kind of player and not the same type of guy they already have 10 of.
- Unholy_Goalie

lol

You better go look at CF relative to the team....Brouwer seems to be at the bottom of his team ever year....maybe someone else should be diving into the stats.


I think Ennis was a negative last year ( 23 games ) and has been a plus the couple/few years previous...

You're questioning Kyle "The Analytic Kid" Dubas?

They got rid of the guys who only hit. I'm saying, grab a guy with some sand paper who has some skill too. Brouwer is a multiple time 20 goal scorer, played on fast teams before, crash and bang character guy. I'd rather give him a 1 year deal than Ennis. At least you're adding something different to the team instead of another small guy who'll get thrown around or injured when the games get tough in the playoffs.
- Unholy_Goalie

Hey I like the guys with grit and like to hit....but Brouwer's #'s are not very good in relation to his teammates.

Ennis?
- Steven_Seagull

Career 45.6 CF%. 45.4 FF%. Career -66. More Ozone starts than Dzone starts. Small. Weak. Injured often. Waste of a roster spot and contract.

lol

You better go look at CF relative to the team....Brouwer seems to be at the bottom of his team ever year....maybe someone else should be diving into the stats.


I think Ennis was a negative last year ( 23 games ) and has been a plus the couple/few years previous...

You're questioning Kyle "Mr Analytics" Dubas?
- Garnie

He looks at the most basic pages for these things

So the Leafs pay their anylitics department millions just to do something an average fan can do with 3 mins of research?

Career 45.6 CF%. 45.4 FF%. Career -66. More Ozone starts than Dzone starts. Small. Weak. Injured often. Waste of a roster spot and contract.
- Unholy_Goalie

Read above on my post

just (frank)ing learn how to evaluate players using advanced stats or don’t comment at all

Hey I like the guys with grit and like to hit....but Brouwer's #'s are not very good in relation to his teammates.
- Garnie

That was a Calgary problem more than a Brouwer problem. He played well in Chicago, Washington and St. Louis, all fast teams. He was a good complimentary player. I'd rather take the risk on him on 1 year deal on the 4th line.

Read above on my post

just (frank)ing learn how to evaluate players using advanced stats or don’t comment at all
- Santo_44

Read it. Still sucks.

Read it. Still sucks.
- Unholy_Goalie

No comeback. Nice and thx for admitting defeat.

Run along now.

They got rid of the guys who only hit. I'm saying, grab a guy with some sand paper who has some skill too. Brouwer is a multiple time 20 goal scorer, played on fast teams before, crash and bang character guy. I'd rather give him a 1 year deal than Ennis. At least you're adding something different to the team instead of another small guy who'll get thrown around or injured when the games get tough in the playoffs.
- Unholy_Goalie

We know that's what you're saying. You've repeated the same thing about 10 times now in the last hour.

We know that's what you're saying. You've repeated the same thing about 10 times now in the last hour.
- LeafGuy89

10 times?

Slow day for UG.

No comeback. Nice and thx for admitting defeat.

Run along now.
- Santo_44

I know you feel vindicated that you pay the Athletic to tell you how wicked awesome Ennis is but reality is he sucks.

I know you feel vindicated that you pay the Athletic to tell you how wicked awesome Ennis is but reality is he sucks.
- Unholy_Goalie

I split it between four people. It costs me $10 a year I’m no cheap son of a female dog. Their writers careers are to watch hockey and crunch the numbers. They know a hell of a lot more than me about players that’s for sure.

And you have zero comeback to that post other than saying “he sucks” it really shows you can’t admit when you are wrong which is quite sad.

And then you try to insult me to deter the conversation...bravo

That was a Calgary problem more than a Brouwer problem. He played well in Chicago, Washington and St. Louis, all fast teams. He was a good complimentary player. I'd rather take the risk on him on 1 year deal on the 4th line.
- Unholy_Goalie

But Ennis playing for a team that's 10x worse is Ennis's fault.

CF in relation...Ennis is way better from what I look at.

Brouwer stats are way below his teams avg the last 3 years...Ennis is above for the most part....and either way...who cares about the 12/13th guy.

I split it between four people. It costs me $10 a year I’m no cheap son of a female dog. Their writers careers are to watch hockey and crunch the numbers. They know a hell of a lot more than me about players that’s for sure.

And you have zero comeback to that post other than saying “he sucks” it really shows you can’t admit when you are wrong which is quite sad.

And then you try to insult me to deter the conversation...bravo
- Santo_44

Did they crunch the numbers that he as 16 goals in the past 3 years combined? Or that he's a career 45.5 CF%? Maybe they forgot those numbers. Seems like they did.

There's nothing that Ennis brings to the table that the Leafs don't already have in their system in the form of young prospects. Rather have Grundstrom play 82 games than waste a contract on Ennis.

He’s (frank)ing arguing over a 1-yr/650k contract...oh my god he has mental issues.

But Ennis playing for a team that's 10x worse is Ennis's fault.

CF in relation...Ennis is way better from what I look at.

Brouwer stats are way below his teams avg the last 3 years...Ennis is above for the most part....and either way...who cares about the 12/13th guy.
- Garnie

Part of the problem, not the solution perhaps. There were years in Buffalo where his numbers were bad and still worse than his teams.

Brouwer's took a big decline last year but the years prior to that were reasonable, unlike Ennis, who's been on the down swing for three years straight, in part because he's not that skillful anymore and because of injuries because he's small, weak and frail to be in the NHL.

He’s (frank)ing arguing over a 1-yr/650k contract...oh my god he has mental issues.
- Steven_Seagull

It's a no risk/no reward move.

In Montreal, we call it "a Bergevin".

Think Streit, Hemsky, Semin etc...

It's a no risk/no reward move.

In Montreal, we call it "a Bergevin".

Think Streit, Hemsky, Semin etc...
- Scabeh

If Clarke MacArthur and Kyle Wellwood had a child, it'd be Tyler Ennis.