Oh.
- .OHOH.

Yeah, seriously. Holy poop, STFU already.

Yeah, seriously. Holy poop, STFU already.
- Steven_Seagull

Oh.
- .OHOH.

If they could get something in the neighborhood of Lindholm for Nylander and Pietrangelo for Rielly+, they're a better team, especially defensively.

If they could get something in the neighborhood of Lindholm for Nylander and Pietrangelo for Rielly+, they're a better team, especially defensively.
- Unholy_Goalie

Neither are happening.

Rielly tipping the scales at 217lbs.

He's going to be a beast this year and flirt with 60 pts.

BUT LET'S TRADE HIM!!!

Rielly tipping the scales at 217lbs.

He's going to be a beast this year and flirt with 60 pts.

BUT LET'S TRADE HIM!!!
- As_I_See_It

For Pietrangelo? Abso-(frank)ing-lutely.

For Pietrangelo? Abso-(frank)ing-lutely.
- Unholy_Goalie

His name sounds like some sort of hipster craft beer tho.

His name sounds like some sort of hipster craft beer tho.
- Dozzer

What about Brayden Schenn? How's that name sound? That's another type of player the Leafs are missing in their top-six. If he becomes a UFA, depending on the cap situation, and after Marleau retires, that's a perfect guy to replace Nylander if they trade Nylander for help on D.

What about Brayden Schenn? How's that name sound? That's another type of player the Leafs are missing in their top-six. If he becomes a UFA, depending on the cap situation, and after Marleau retires, that's a perfect guy to replace Nylander if they trade Nylander for help on D.
- Unholy_Goalie

You have the worst opinions

You have the worst opinions
- HealthyScratch6

28 goals, 70 points, hits like a truck and fights.

But yeah, terrible, just terrible.

Yeah, seriously. Holy poop, STFU already.
- Steven_Seagull

28 goals, 70 points, hits like a truck and fights.

But yeah, terrible, just terrible.
- Unholy_Goalie

You assume he will make it to free agency....and that we could afford him.

- .HOHO.

28 goals, 70 points, hits like a truck and fights.

But yeah, terrible, just terrible.
- Unholy_Goalie

Some preseason highlights this morning.... Can't wait for the leafs tonight.

Some preseason highlights this morning.... Can't wait for the leafs tonight.
- burn

Why would the NHL Block Out a (frank)in preseason game..

Historically, camp hold-outs haven't done well. I would think he's anxious to get out there asap.
- gravyface

He is not really a hold out, he just doesn't have a contract.

Why would the NHL Block Out a (frank)in preseason game..
- Ear Hole

You can stream them all no problem

Why would the NHL Block Out a (frank)in preseason game..
- Ear Hole

Bunch of douche bags?

Where is Lucan? Is that near London? Isn't it a really small community? They have an arena? Does it have square corners??

You can stream them all no problem
- LeafGuy89

Ya, you can but for (frank) sakes, it a preseason game. I bet tonight will be the same with the Leafs. Habs game was not blocked, but the The Jets and Leafs games are.

Bunch of douche bags?
- Hockey_Reverend

They only want to sell the center ice package.

Who knows if it’s him or his agent/Dad. They both have a history of riding it out.

In all honesty I would be nervous if I was nylander and I’m not trying to take anything away from him. He is an amazing player and deserves the 6.5-7.25 long term contract, but if someone else gets a chance to play with Matthews I think they can excel too. Just look at hyman.
- bryant

But why does he deserve that much money? He has played 2 seasons? He had 20 goals last season playing with Matthews. 20. If he wants a long term deal, then he needs to take a lower number. The way the cap system is supposed to work (in theory) is players coming out of entry level deals aren't supposed to get huge paydays. Go for money when you are a UFA.

The thing with Willie is he goes long stretches where he looks disinterested... If he gets over 6 million per I will be disappointed. Might as well have kept JVR and traded Willie for a defensemen!

But why does he deserve that much money? He has played 2 seasons? He had 20 goals last season playing with Matthews. 20. If he wants a long term deal, then he needs to take a lower number. The way the cap system is supposed to work (in theory) is players coming out of entry level deals aren't supposed to get huge paydays. Go for money when you are a UFA.

The thing with Willie is he goes long stretches where he looks disinterested... If he gets over 6 million per I will be disappointed. Might as well have kept JVR and traded Willie for a defensemen!
- Hockey_Reverend

Does anyone have the number Willie put up when Matthews was not on his line, or a comparison.

But why does he deserve that much money? He has played 2 seasons? He had 20 goals last season playing with Matthews. 20. If he wants a long term deal, then he needs to take a lower number. The way the cap system is supposed to work (in theory) is players coming out of entry level deals aren't supposed to get huge paydays. Go for money when you are a UFA.

The thing with Willie is he goes long stretches where he looks disinterested... If he gets over 6 million per I will be disappointed. Might as well have kept JVR and traded Willie for a defensemen!
- Hockey_Reverend

if its a long term deal (7 or 8 years) then the number goes up, not down. you are then buying UFA years.

Personally I dont care what he "deserves", as a fan I care about if the player is providing value above what his cap hit is. that how you build winning teams today in a cap system.

If you compare other contracts and age and everything else, he lands around 7 mil
So if you can get him for that or less great, you are getting him age 22-30 under that deal. Its a good bet for the Leafs.

its much better than paying JVR 7 mil for age 29-33