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Hockey_Reverend
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.21.2012

Sep 18 @ 11:41 AM ET
The closest comparable players to the Nylander situation are Ehlers, Forsberg and Pastrnak. They make 6 million, 6 million and 6.66 million respectively. Forsberg and Pasta are better. Nylander to closer to Elhers. I say 6.5 million for Willie. Take it or ride the pine...
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Sep 18 @ 11:42 AM ET
I just watched Kazeem again last night.

Easily my favourite movie.

- Atomic Wedgie


Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Sep 18 @ 11:42 AM ET
The closest comparable players to the Nylander situation are Ehlers, Forsberg and Pastrnak. They make 6 million, 6 million and 6.66 million respectively. Forsberg and Pasta are better. Nylander to closer to Elhers. I say 6.5 million for Willie. Take it or ride the pine...
- Hockey_Reverend

Agreed.

And I'm not particularly worried - I get the feeling that Leafs management is going to be ball-crushingly hard in these negotiations.
markmark
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 07.27.2010

Sep 18 @ 11:43 AM ET
Agreed.

And I'm not particularly worried - I get the feeling that Leafs management is going to be ball-crushingly hard in these negotiations.

- Atomic Wedgie


Same. Wait. What was the question?
Hockey_Reverend
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.21.2012

Sep 18 @ 11:44 AM ET
Nylander > Marner at EV.
- Dongull_Trump


Nylander can't carry Marners jock strap. At the end of there careers I believe Marner will be far better. At every level Marner has excelled. Was magic in London.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Sep 18 @ 11:44 AM ET
You must have a Nylander pinup in your bedroom.
- Garnie



I dunno man, I just like the Leafs...and I like the Leafs good players...its such a weird Fan thing to me to hate or dislike players like that.

I do have a Marner Jersey..but he doesnt deserve 11 mil
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Sep 18 @ 11:44 AM ET
The closest comparable players to the Nylander situation are Ehlers, Forsberg and Pastrnak. They make 6 million, 6 million and 6.66 million respectively. Forsberg and Pasta are better. Nylander to closer to Elhers. I say 6.5 million for Willie. Take it or ride the pine...
- Hockey_Reverend


The Leafs would love that number. I don't think they get him at that number on a deal over 5 years.

5 yr/$33M would be good for both sides.
Leafs probably want that number over 8 years, Nylander probably over 4 years

BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

Sep 18 @ 11:45 AM ET
Lord knows I loved pissing on Bozak.

But I have to give the guy some credit: his numbers remained remarkably consistent after Kessel left.

We all thought he was in for a 30 point season after that.

- Atomic Wedgie


who's the victim this upcoming season?
Hockey_Reverend
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.21.2012

Sep 18 @ 11:45 AM ET
Agreed.

And I'm not particularly worried - I get the feeling that Leafs management is going to be ball-crushingly hard in these negotiations.

- Atomic Wedgie


Then why is everyone here handing him 7 million plus per season? Is he even a core piece? Maybe? Maybe not? I think he is replaceable through upcoming players or ufa's
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Sep 18 @ 11:46 AM ET
who's the victim this upcoming season?
- BorjeFan4Ever



by all accounts(specifically, yours) it's Ennis.
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

Sep 18 @ 11:46 AM ET
The closest comparable players to the Nylander situation are Ehlers, Forsberg and Pastrnak. They make 6 million, 6 million and 6.66 million respectively. Forsberg and Pasta are better. Nylander to closer to Elhers. I say 6.5 million for Willie. Take it or ride the pine...
- Hockey_Reverend


exactly... 6.25 for 6 or 6.75 for 8
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Sep 18 @ 11:47 AM ET
Then why is everyone here handing him 7 million plus per season? Is he even a core piece? Maybe? Maybe not? I think he is replaceable through upcoming players or ufa's
- Hockey_Reverend



$7M per season over 8 years is a good deal..

There were reports, that he is asking for $8M per
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

Sep 18 @ 11:48 AM ET
by all accounts(specifically, yours) it's Ennis.
- PatC80


I don't dislike the guy... just don't like seeing the current Nylander open spot wasted on him (my opinion).

personally, I think they should have brought Plekanec back... I could have hated him easily.
markmark
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 07.27.2010

Sep 18 @ 11:48 AM ET
Unless I've missed something since.... Let's not forget that "Nylander asking for 8mil" is solely a product of Darren Dreger "asking around to other GM's what they think he'd ask for"....
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Sep 18 @ 11:49 AM ET
Unless I've missed something since.... Let's not forget that "Nylander asking for 8mil" is solely a product of Darren Dreger "asking around to other GM's what they think he'd ask for"....
- markmark



To be fair, the Toronto star reported it too;

So, unless Dreger has a side gig at the Toronto Star, more than 1 person is reporting it.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Sep 18 @ 11:49 AM ET
Then why is everyone here handing him 7 million plus per season? Is he even a core piece? Maybe? Maybe not? I think he is replaceable through upcoming players or ufa's
- Hockey_Reverend


on an 8 year deal..sure 7... I would prefer he gets 8 years..and 7 mil is value over that term

again..its very important how many years..the number changes
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Sep 18 @ 11:51 AM ET
Unless I've missed something since.... Let's not forget that "Nylander asking for 8mil" is solely a product of Darren Dreger "asking around to other GM's what they think he'd ask for"....
- markmark



if I was looking for 6.5 or 7 mil... Id ask for a higher number than that.

I think thats how negotiating works
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Sep 18 @ 11:51 AM ET
on an 8 year deal..sure 7... I would prefer he gets 8 years..and 7 mil is value over that term

again..its very important how many years..the number changes

- senstroll



8 years/7M per is a very good value deal.. I honestly think that Nylander will outperform that in less than 3 years.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Sep 18 @ 11:54 AM ET
on an 8 year deal..sure 7... I would prefer he gets 8 years..and 7 mil is value over that term

again..its very important how many years..the number changes

- senstroll


IMO we will be gutting like Chicago before we even win a cup.
markmark
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 07.27.2010

Sep 18 @ 12:06 PM ET
if I was looking for 6.5 or 7 mil... Id ask for a higher number than that.

I think thats how negotiating works

- senstroll


I have no expertise in the area but I figured RFA negotiations was "here's a comparable" and not like arbitration where you throw out a moonshot?
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Sep 18 @ 12:09 PM ET
I have no expertise in the area but I figured RFA negotiations was "here's a comparable" and not like arbitration where you throw out a moonshot?
- markmark


Give him 2yr/$5m - then play him on the 4th line and see what kind of #'s he puts up for the next contract.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Sep 18 @ 12:13 PM ET
The closest comparable players to the Nylander situation are Ehlers, Forsberg and Pastrnak. They make 6 million, 6 million and 6.66 million respectively. Forsberg and Pasta are better. Nylander to closer to Elhers. I say 6.5 million for Willie. Take it or ride the pine...
- Hockey_Reverend

The issue doesnt appear to be money, but term.
6-6.5 is bang on for him.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Sep 18 @ 12:24 PM ET
Neither are happening.
- Steven_Seagull


Thank (frank).
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Sep 18 @ 12:24 PM ET
Nylander > Marner at EV.
- Dongull_Trump


Eh, Marner was one of the NHL's top offensive players in the second half and playoffs.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Sep 18 @ 12:25 PM ET
Remember how a rebuilding Sabres team gave up a 3rd rounder to just speak with Vesey?
- RogerRoeper


My favourite part was Garf saying that it was a guarantee that he was signing with the Sabres just because they traded for his rights.

With all the Murrency the Sabres had, it was a shrewd move by the riverboat gambler, GMTM.
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