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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 18 @ 10:54 AM ET
Not saying he cant. I just don't see it. I think his skills translate to playing with guys in the top 9. I know you want 4 lines you can roll but there will always be a difference in minutes from top line to other lines.
- J35Bacher


I think the Flyers should just roll with the roster from the 2010 Canadian Olympic team.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Sep 18 @ 10:55 AM ET
I want as much talent as possible in the lineup. If their 4 best centers next season are Coots, Patrick, Frost and Vorobyev than you roll with those 4. Vorobyev will get plenty of ice time in that type of lineup. Figure 9 mins or so at ES on the 4th line. another minute or 2 of ES time moving up to line 3 when you are protecting a lead and probably another 1-1.5 minutes on the PK. All in all, he'd still likely play 11-13 minutes a night and the team would better down the middle.
- BiggE



Just looking to the future, I think Rubtsov will end up in that role.

But whatever...it's nice the Flyers have the prospect depth to have these good problems.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Sep 18 @ 10:56 AM ET
The whole transition was great. With guys like Provorov, Myers, Gostisbehere and Sanheim I hope to see more of that in the future.
- J35Bacher

Not only welcome, but completely necessary. It will be the biggest difference for this team. It is something Gudas has done well (more with passing than skating) in the past and it kind of went away last year.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Sep 18 @ 10:57 AM ET
Just looking to the future, I think Rubtsov will end up in that role.

But whatever...it's nice the Flyers have the prospect depth to have these good problems.

- J35Bacher

J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Sep 18 @ 10:57 AM ET
Just looking to this year...If Simmonds is on the 3rd line, what are we looking for in production? Does anyone think his role could change a little since he could be getting maybe a little less ice time at ES and possibly not seeing as much top PP time?

Just looking to see what people think.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 18 @ 10:59 AM ET
Just looking to this year...If Simmonds is on the 3rd line, what are we looking for in production? Does anyone think his role could change a little since he could be getting maybe a little less ice time at ES and possibly not seeing as much top PP time?

Just looking to see what people think.

- J35Bacher


I think if Simmonds is not going to be on the 1st unit PP then that tilts the scale to they should trade him for me. I think his production will definitely be limited because of it. 20 and 20 would be really strong.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Sep 18 @ 11:03 AM ET
Just looking to this year...If Simmonds is on the 3rd line, what are we looking for in production? Does anyone think his role could change a little since he could be getting maybe a little less ice time at ES and possibly not seeing as much top PP time?

Just looking to see what people think.

- J35Bacher


If he's playing mainly on the 3rd line and on the 2nd pp unit, there will certainly be some drop in his production. Assuming he's healthy and can stay healthy all season, I'd look for maybe 25 goals and 40-45 points.

If JVR, who probably unlike Simmonds is going to be here for a while, is going to play net front on pp1, then you want a RH shot in the other mid ice slot. If that guy isn't going to be the net front guy, you are better off having a guy with more overall skill like Patrick in that position.

My pp units would be:
Ghost
Giroux
Voracek
Patrick
JVR

Provorov
Konecny
Sanheim or Couturier*
Couturier or Lindblom*
Simmonds

*depends on game situation and if they want 4 or 3 forwards on the ice.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Sep 18 @ 11:04 AM ET
I think if Simmonds is not going to be on the 1st unit PP then that tilts the scale to they should trade him for me. I think his production will definitely be limited because of it. 20 and 20 would be really strong.
- MJL


Agreed.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Sep 18 @ 11:04 AM ET
I think if Simmonds is not going to be on the 1st unit PP then that tilts the scale to they should trade him for me. I think his production will definitely be limited because of it. 20 and 20 would be really strong.
- MJL



I kind of had the same thought.

Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Sep 18 @ 11:06 AM ET
misha. jesus christ
- rinaldo


Do you even know what Misha means?

It's like some clown complaining about someone using Bob instead of Bobby.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Sep 18 @ 11:09 AM ET
Do you even know what Misha means?

It's like some clown complaining about someone using Bob instead of Bobby.

- Glak18


Like Ron White said: Ya can't fix stupid
rinaldo
Joined: 05.10.2011

Sep 18 @ 11:09 AM ET
Do you even know what Misha means?

It's like some clown complaining about someone using Bob instead of Bobby.

- Glak18

misha rules
rinaldo
Joined: 05.10.2011

Sep 18 @ 11:10 AM ET
Like Ron White said: Ya can't fix stupid
- BiggE

any chance a top ten list of flyer nicknames guru?
ajw12
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.27.2017

Sep 18 @ 11:16 AM ET
misha rules
- rinaldo


you do know Misha is pretty much Russian version of Mike right?
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Sep 18 @ 11:17 AM ET
Do you even know what Misha means?

It's like some clown complaining about someone using Bob instead of Bobby.

- Glak18

B...b-boB RYAN FIST?!
rinaldo
Joined: 05.10.2011

Sep 18 @ 11:17 AM ET
you do know Misha is pretty much Russian version of Mike right?
- ajw12

wow really? damn.

here I thought it was just a name the cool guy crowd uses.
ajw12
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.27.2017

Sep 18 @ 11:21 AM ET
wow really? damn.

here I thought it was just a name the cool guy crowd uses.

- rinaldo


no need to be a Richard
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 18 @ 11:21 AM ET
no need to be a Richard
- ajw12



You're talking to someone who refuses to refer to Ron Hextall by anything other than his full first name, Ronald. So I'm not surprised.
rinaldo
Joined: 05.10.2011

Sep 18 @ 11:22 AM ET
no need to be a Richard
- ajw12

who is Richard?
rinaldo
Joined: 05.10.2011

Sep 18 @ 11:22 AM ET
You're talking to someone who refuses to refer to Ron Hextall by anything other than his full first name, Ronald.
- jmatchett383

keep quiet nerd
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Sep 18 @ 11:23 AM ET
My PP units would be:

Giroux
Couturier
Simmonds
Konecny
Gostisbehere

Voracek
Patrick
JVR
Weal
Provorov

More evenly divided in ice time, but internally competitive. If A unit scores, they get to start the next PP.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 18 @ 11:23 AM ET
B...b-boB RYAN FIST?!
- Giroux_Is_God


Erik Karlsson for $11M, no way.

Bobby Ryan for $7.25M, sure.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Sep 18 @ 11:24 AM ET
no need to be a Richard
- ajw12


That's like asking a kid not to be edgy.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 18 @ 11:25 AM ET
My PP units would be:

Giroux
Couturier
Simmonds
Konecny
Gostisbehere

Voracek
Patrick
JVR
Weal
Provorov

More evenly divided in ice time, but internally competitive. If A unit scores, they get to start the next PP.

- NC Flyers Fan


Not sure I'd be happy with Weal on the PP, and he's not even guaranteed a roster spot. I'd put Myers or Sanheim in his spot.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Sep 18 @ 11:26 AM ET
Not sure I'd be happy with Weal on the PP, and he's not even guaranteed a roster spot. I'd put Myers or Sanheim in his spot.
- jmatchett383


Weal would work great on the PP...in the AHL.
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