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neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Sep 23 @ 1:07 PM ET
Dude, don't question the best coaching staff we've ever had in forever.
The wielder is more important then the sword.

- Pres.cup


some posts can just never be forgotten
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Sep 23 @ 1:08 PM ET
Kesler was also two years younger. Maybe he’s ready, maybe he’s not. Also, there is no guarantee that Gaudette ends up playing in the top 6 in Itica. The coaches there want to win just as much as NHL coaches do, and AHL vets often find themselves in prime offensive roles.
- 1970vintage


This might not be popular as many are still sore from Kesler moving on but he was way better prepared to play in the NHL than Gaudette is. I like Gaudette and think he has some potential but Kesler came in super hungry and would of made Motte's inspiring performance look like Eriksson.

We haven't had a player come in with Kesler's determination since, it also helped that he was an excellent skater, something Gaudette struggles with.

Edit.
Also if Gaudette can't help Utica win while playing in the top 6 then there is no way he is ready for NHL.

AHL is for development, use it. The team is reluctant enough already.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Sep 23 @ 1:18 PM ET
It is not giving up on them. It is there are only so many roster spots and so far neither has stepped up to claim it.

This is what I have so far

? Bo Brock
Sven EP Roussel
JV Sutter Motte
Schaller Beagle Archie

- VANTEL

Archie is a plug. not worth it. Granlund is better. archie=biega of forwards.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 23 @ 1:21 PM ET
Archie is a plug. not worth it. Granlund is better. archie=biega of forwards.
- neem55

They are both plugs and so is Gaunce Gagner Leipsic and Goldobin. Pick your plug
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Sep 23 @ 1:21 PM ET
This might not be popular as many are still sore from Kesler moving on but he was way better prepared to play in the NHL than Gaudette is. I like Gaudette and think he has some potential but Kesler came in super hungry and would of made Motte's inspiring performance look like Eriksson.

We haven't had a player come in with Kesler's determination since, it also helped that he was an excellent skater, something Gaudette struggles with.

Edit.
Also if Gaudette can't help Utica win while playing in the top 6 then there is no way he is ready for NHL.

AHL is for development, use it. The team is reluctant enough already.

- belcherbd

He will work his way up the lineup, probably won't start on the first line in Utica. He's not played that well, don't see him making the roster. As many have said, Motte deserves to start. I think lipstick has earned it too. Saunter looks good, couple gafs last night but makes Hutton makes him look like Tanev. Tanev is the best player on this team
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Sep 23 @ 1:23 PM ET
That’s BS and you know it. NHL coaches don’t always play the “best players”. They will play the players they think give them the best chance to win. A guy with 300+ AHL games often ends up being a teams #1 C, even though he will never see a sniff of the NHL.
- 1970vintage


The AHL vets are the best players but younger players like Gaudette are on a much steeper learning curve. Very easily for Gaudette to surpass an AHL vet in no time, to where Gaudette could end in the NHL and not the AHL vet.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Sep 23 @ 1:25 PM ET
This might not be popular as many are still sore from Kesler moving on but he was way better prepared to play in the NHL than Gaudette is. I like Gaudette and think he has some potential but Kesler came in super hungry and would of made Motte's inspiring performance look like Eriksson.

We haven't had a player come in with Kesler's determination since, it also helped that he was an excellent skater, something Gaudette struggles with.

Edit.
Also if Gaudette can't help Utica win while playing in the top 6 then there is no way he is ready for NHL.

AHL is for development, use it. The team is reluctant enough already.

- belcherbd


Take Kesler out of the equation, forget I ever mentioned him. It wasn’t meant to compare Gaudette to Kesler. The point is not every player benefits from playing in the AHL, each path is different.

As far as where a player plays that is up to the coaches. Carter Bancks isn’t making the NHL any time soon but has regularly been the first line winger in the AHL. Reid Boucher, Brendan Gaunce, Grenier... coaches at every level prefer experienced players to rookies, so being a rookie in Utica may mean playing behind more experienced players, which has nothing to do with his readiness to play in the NHL.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: A dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Sep 23 @ 1:26 PM ET
Preach
- Codes1087


Lamp.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Sep 23 @ 1:29 PM ET
Lamp.
- bloatedmosquito


Pillow
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Sep 23 @ 1:30 PM ET
They are both plugs and so is Gaunce Gagner Leipsic and Goldobin. Pick your plug
- VANTEL

liepsic and goldy can score, it's an easy pick.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 23 @ 1:33 PM ET
liepsic and goldy can score, it's an easy pick.
- neem55



If you feel the need to decide which ugly chick you need to invite to the prom then by all means have a blast. I don't think anyone of them will make any difference to the team and are not worth the print. So slot whomever you want there it won't matter.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 23 @ 1:45 PM ET
Lots of waiver wires today . Griffen Reinhart and Jared Tinordi among the names
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Sep 23 @ 1:47 PM ET
Lots of waiver wires today . Griffen Reinhart and Jared Tinordi among the names
- VANTEL

let's grad luke schenn and clone gudbranson while were at it.
LeftCoaster
Anaheim Ducks
Location: Duck City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Sep 23 @ 1:48 PM ET
From a scout - Pettersson’s even strength points will come as he figures out the smaller ice surface. He is a stud on the pp. He is not one dimensional. He is the real deal and I can see him someday ending up as the best player in his draft. #Canucks

Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Sep 23 @ 1:48 PM ET
They are both plugs and so is Gaunce Gagner Leipsic and Goldobin. Pick your plug
- VANTEL


Leipsic always seems to look good out there ....I think he is closer to Sven granny etc than Gaunce gagner....I think there is still hope for Goldy too
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Sep 23 @ 1:53 PM ET
From a scout - Pettersson’s even strength points will come as he figures out the smaller ice surface. He is a stud on the pp. He is not one dimensional. He is the real deal and I can see him someday ending up as the best player in his draft. #Canucks


- LeftCoaster


Canucks scout ? 😉 lol

Kidding ....he looks pretty good out there
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 23 @ 1:57 PM ET
let's grad luke schenn and clone gudbranson while were at it.
- neem55


Did I say I wanted them?
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Sep 23 @ 1:59 PM ET
Leipsic always seems to look good out there ....I think he is closer to Sven granny etc than Gaunce gagner....I think there is still hope for Goldy too
- Redmile247

I’m getting tweener vibes from Leipsic, but I hope he proves me wrong.

I still think he could carve out a decent NHL career if he played with the same tenacity he did in junior. I know he’s a small dude so I’m not expecting him to throw his weight around and drop the gloves but more just agitate, like Brendan Gallagher does.

Goldobin has the high end skill so I’m okay with giving him a longer leash than other bubble players but he needs to keep improving away from the puck. Green was able to get Baertschi’s game turned around and I think he’s trying to do the same with Goldy.
LeftCoaster
Anaheim Ducks
Location: Duck City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Sep 23 @ 2:00 PM ET
Canucks scout ? 😉 lol

Kidding ....he looks pretty good out there

- Redmile247

No....it wasn't, but yes, he looks great out there.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 23 @ 2:00 PM ET
Leipsic always seems to look good out there ....I think he is closer to Sven granny etc than Gaunce gagner....I think there is still hope for Goldy
too

- Redmile247


I have a hard time liking Sven in the top 6



For Canucks to raise themselves out of the basement they need more Boesers Petterssons and Bo's not more Mason Raymonds
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Sep 23 @ 2:02 PM ET
Did I say I wanted them?
- VANTEL

so you pulled specific names off of the waiver wire because you wanted to point them out. But not because you wanted them
LeftCoaster
Anaheim Ducks
Location: Duck City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Sep 23 @ 2:02 PM ET
I’m getting tweener vibes from Leipsic, but I hope he proves me wrong.

I still think he could carve out a decent NHL career if he played with the same tenacity he did in junior. I know he’s a small dude so I’m not expecting him to throw his weight around and drop the gloves but more just agitate, like Brendan Gallagher does.

- Nucker101

Gallagher is fearless, he goes to the hard areas, thus he scores. When small guys, like Baertschi who was a perimeter player, go to the paint they score.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Sep 23 @ 2:03 PM ET

- Marwood

lol
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Sep 23 @ 2:03 PM ET
I have a hard time liking Sven in the top 6



For Canucks to raise themselves out of the basement they need more Boesers Petterssons and Bo's not more Mason Raymonds

- VANTEL

he's good, just seems so frail and not to play well injured/recovering. I think Baer has looked like one of our better guys.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 23 @ 2:04 PM ET
so you pulled specific names off of the waiver wire because you wanted to point them out. But not because you wanted them
- neem55



That is exactly why I did it . I was even considering writing the POOR BASTARDS



I think you should stick to worrying about which #12 and 13 forward make the team
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