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Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Sep 23 @ 11:57 AM ET
35 for a goaltender isn't that old really, provided they been healthy; McBackup is honestly the best option for backup behind a guy like Andersen who's going to play 65+ games again.

And Pickard got the call-ups over Sparks, so they have to like him in the organization.

I'm rooting for Sparks, but might be better shipping him to a team that needs a 1B (Islanders, maybe Dallas) where he'll get 25-30 games.

- gravyface


35 is old for a backup

Very old actually, there aren’t many career backups that make it past 35
bullethead7
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 07.26.2007

Sep 23 @ 11:59 AM ET
Enis + P = Willy??

Let that sink in

- mel_vin


That's what she said.
HealthyScratch6
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 09.13.2014

Sep 23 @ 12:06 PM ET
Sabres are still so poop. Don't see them improving any time soon. Disappointed in Rasbust Dahlin. Maybe just the one game, but was expecting more on a crappy team.
- walshyleafsfan

gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

Sep 23 @ 12:06 PM ET
35 is old for a backup

Very old actually, there aren’t many career backups that make it past 35

- Santo_44


That may be because they can't find jobs, not because they're falling apart.

McBackup's been effective playing a small number of games, a uniquely Toronto thing, as most starters aren't playing 65+ games.
nbboy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.05.2010

Sep 23 @ 12:11 PM ET
Sabres are still so poop. Don't see them improving any time soon. Disappointed in Dahlin. Maybe just the one game, but was expecting more on a crappy team.
- walshyleafsfan

The Sabres won two of the four preseason games and could have won all four.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Sep 23 @ 12:15 PM ET
That may be because they can't find jobs, not because they're falling apart.

McBackup's been effective playing a small number of games, a uniquely Toronto thing, as most starters aren't playing 65+ games.

- gravyface

Being able to play a game every three weeks is not enough.

If your starter goes down you need your backup to be able to play a month straight. I don’t have confidence that Mcbackup can do that.
LeafGuy89
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 05.13.2017

Sep 23 @ 12:21 PM ET
The Sabres won two of the four preseason games and could have won all four.
- nbboy


Preseason doesn't mean anything.
nbboy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.05.2010

Sep 23 @ 12:29 PM ET
Preseason doesn't mean anything.
- LeafGuy89

#garthblog
Roadrunner75
Seattle Kraken
Location: ON
Joined: 03.01.2013

Sep 23 @ 1:09 PM ET
Gardiner is just so frustrating. He is like Kaberle 2.0. Soft as hell in front of the net and while he does get his points how many does he cost us at the same damn time?! I really hope we don't overpay to keep him.

Up front Engvall with his size has shown enough have to think he is pushing himself into consideration especially with others being a bit underwhelming so far.

Defence I think Oz and Rosen have really pushed themselves, as has CyBorg honestly. Dermott was meh before getting hurt and not sure Holl has done enough either to really outdo the other 3 at this point. Going to be a very interesting race to see who can claim the spots, at least out of the gate.

Goaltending I think the hope was Sparks was going to take McBackup's job but he just hasn't done enough and that last game was a stinker. Pickard has looked pretty good and steady, and McBackup doesn't look like he has fallen off in the least. Sparks also is going to have a bit of trade value so thinking he likely is the odd man out at this point.
oldhockeyfan
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: North of Toronto, ON
Joined: 01.29.2014

Sep 23 @ 1:27 PM ET
I have been more comfortable watching McElhinney than Sparks as the backup. Last night Pickard looked really calm and collected.
annoyed
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: ON
Joined: 10.28.2013

Sep 23 @ 2:30 PM ET
andreas johnsson has been surprisingly disappointing so far. still early though
- daeth


Some had annointed him to play with Matthews, he's looked that bad?
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Sep 23 @ 3:07 PM ET
Some had annointed him to play with Matthews, he's looked that bad?
- annoyed

Not bad, just mostly invisible.
Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON
Joined: 08.23.2006

Sep 23 @ 3:44 PM ET
35 is old for a backup

Very old actually, there aren’t many career backups that make it past 35

- Santo_44


Trade McElhinney. He has a tiny bit of value after his career year but he's old. The Leafs are better off with one of the young guys long term. The only problem is they need a back-up who can play 25+ games and it's unknown if Sparks or Pickard can do that right now, it'd be a bit of a gamble.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Sep 23 @ 4:07 PM ET
Trade McElhinney. He has a tiny bit of value after his career year but he's old. The Leafs are better off with one of the young guys long term. The only problem is they need a back-up who can play 25+ games and it's unknown if Sparks or Pickard can do that right now, it'd be a bit of a gamble.
- Unholy_Goalie


Babcock will not play any backup 25 games.

And the Leafs are a contender. I don't really want a rookie backup. Too risky.
Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON
Joined: 08.23.2006

Sep 23 @ 4:25 PM ET
Babcock will not play any backup 25 games.

And the Leafs are a contender. I don't really want a rookie backup. Too risky.

- RogerRoeper


Then he's making a stupid mistake by overworking Andersen.
bryant
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.28.2011

Sep 23 @ 4:28 PM ET
What is the roster shrinking to today? Like 30-35 players?
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Sep 23 @ 4:33 PM ET
Not bad, just mostly invisible.
- daeth

I think him and Kap both came into preseason thinking they had their spots locked down.

If they don’t show more, they might not get into the lineup until some injuries open up spots... seems like Leivo and Ennis are ahead of them.

Brown hasn’t been much either... but they’re not sending him down.

If Ennis keeps on working well with Matthews, I could see Nylander starting on the 3rd with Kadri. The two have been good together in the past, and it’d give the Leafs more depth.


Hyman-Tavares-Marner
Marleau-Matthews-Ennis
Leivo-Kadri-Nylander
Johnsson/Kapanen-Lindholm-Brown

Can Kap play on the left?

Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Sep 23 @ 4:37 PM ET
Sabres are still so poop. Don't see them improving any time soon. Disappointed in Dahlin. Maybe just the one game, but was expecting more on a crappy team.
- walshyleafsfan

It's the franking preseason, and the kid is getting used to 85X200 and 99 other things.

It might be a tad early to declare Dahlin a bust.

Let's wait until at least the 1st intermission of opening nifht.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Sep 23 @ 4:40 PM ET
I think him and Kap both came into preseason thinking they had their spots locked down.

If they don’t show more, they might not get into the lineup until some injuries open up spots... seems like Leivo and Ennis are ahead of them.

Brown hasn’t been much either... but they’re not sending him down.

If Ennis keeps on working well with Matthews, I could see Nylander starting on the 3rd with Kadri. The two have been good together in the past, and it’d give the Leafs more depth.


Hyman-Tavares-Marner
Marleau-Matthews-Ennis
Leivo-Kadri-Nylander
Johnsson/Kapanen-Lindholm-Brown

Can Kap play on the left?

- Feeling Glucky?


Kap and Johnsson have at least shown their speed.

They make the team over Lievo hands down. You do not throw away the last few seasons over two pre season games.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Sep 23 @ 4:42 PM ET
I bought two Gilmour beers.

Drinking one now.

My official review: very, very meh.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Sep 23 @ 4:42 PM ET
Trade McElhinney. He has a tiny bit of value after his career year but he's old. The Leafs are better off with one of the young guys long term. The only problem is they need a back-up who can play 25+ games and it's unknown if Sparks or Pickard can do that right now, it'd be a bit of a gamble.
- Unholy_Goalie

I would be up for that...I hope they keep Pikard and Sparks and then send one down in a few weeks to try and sneak one to the Marlies.

I like Mcbackup but unfortunately his career is almost over and Sparks/Pikards have just begun
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Sep 23 @ 4:58 PM ET
I bought two Gilmour beers.

Drinking one now.

My official review: very, very meh.

- Atomic Wedgie

i was hoping it'd be an ok light beer but im not surprised lol
TrashPanda
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Your Green Bin, ON
Joined: 03.29.2018

Sep 23 @ 5:36 PM ET
I bought two Gilmour beers.

Drinking one now.

My official review: very, very meh.

- Atomic Wedgie


Flavourless lagers are what these guys always put their names on.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Sep 23 @ 6:17 PM ET
Then he's making a stupid mistake by overworking Andersen.
- Unholy_Goalie


I agree but he did not rest him when the Leafs were stuck in 3rd from February-on.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Sep 23 @ 6:29 PM ET
Then he's making a stupid mistake by overworking Andersen.
- Unholy_Goalie


I don't disagree however some of the best goalies in recent memory played 65+ games a season routinely.... Brodeur, Belfour, Roy, Luongo, etc.

Some guys just do better with heavy workloads... is Andersen one of them? That's the question.

(Please know I'm not pegging Andersen as a future HoF-er, he has a lot to prove before that is even a whisper)
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