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chompsey
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cody Hodgson can walk on water
Joined: 10.04.2005

Sep 25 @ 1:34 PM ET
Yes, both gaunce and Archibald are better 4th line players. Gaunce put up almost a point a game in the AHL, he'll never score more then 15 in the nhl. Boucher is a great AHL player and a horrible NHL player. Pears and onions dude, not comparable.
- Pres.cup


Wasnt talking about 4TH line players, just players in general. But sure, pears and onions.

Point being, a handful of players get picked off of waivers this time and year and those 3 ass-clowns wont be........and should they? GREAT! Opportunities for guys like Lind, Dahlen etc....

Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Sep 25 @ 1:35 PM ET
well.... i have no idea if any of this is true but even if it is, yes, you can blame him.

if he and/or his dad are the die hard fans that you paint, they have been fans long enough to know that there are no short cuts.

anybody who thought critically knew that 'retool on the fly' was a recipe for disaster. his dad should beat him with a shoe for prolonging his misery!

- RealityChecker


I've heard it from several sources.
It's why he wouldn't go for a slow rebuild and tried to accelerate it.
His dad should beat him with a shoe but if my dad was not gonna be around for long I'd try my hardest to get into the dance while he was still with me.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Sep 25 @ 1:36 PM ET
An effort level similar to Motte is what I’m asking. Not demanding goals or fights or a big hit. Just show how badly you want a spot.

The whole point of having a crowded roster full of scrubs was to create internal competition.

Maybe just loading up on picks and drafting/developing your own depth is the best way to create competition instead of hoarding scraps was a better strategy?

- Nucker101


I would like to have seen that same hustle and drive from the vets too, like there was actually some competition.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Sep 25 @ 1:40 PM ET
Lol

Speaking of scraps, would anyone pick Shink off of waivers and put granlund on waivers?
Would Calgary claim him?

- Pres.cup


claiming anyone off of waivers would require them to be better than not only Gaunce/Granlund/Archibald, but would also require another roster player to either be waived/sent to Utica. I don't think the Canucks place any waiver claims before season starts.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Sep 25 @ 1:42 PM ET
Wasnt talking about 4TH line players, just players in general. But sure, pears and onions.

Point being, a handful of players get picked off of waivers this time and year and those 3 ass-clowns wont be........and should they? GREAT! Opportunities for guys like Lind, Dahlen etc....

- chompsey


If Motte, Archibald and Gaunce go down , archie clears, gaunce doesn't.
A team like Washington, Tampa or toronto would claim gaunce in a heat beat. Great option as a 13th forward. Doesn't cost anything, can play center or wing. Can kill penalties and isn't a liability. Poor man's beagle at a poor man's price
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Sep 25 @ 1:44 PM ET
claiming anyone off of waivers would require them to be better than not only Gaunce/Granlund/Archibald, but would also require another roster player to either be waived/sent to Utica. I don't think the Canucks place any waiver claims before season starts.
- Codes1087


It was a dig at Calgary in case Duran was still creeping.
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Sep 25 @ 1:45 PM ET
I've heard it from several sources.
It's why he wouldn't go for a slow rebuild and retired to accelerate it.
His dad should beat him with a shoe but if my dad was not gonna be around for long I'd try my hardest to get into the dance role he was still with me.

- Pres.cup

it's not about intention, it's about the critical ability to assess a situation and find a way forward.

anyway, he's a good boy who loves his father. they both love their hockey team and wanted a quick turn around. they were both wrong. instead of providing his father entertaining hockey in his twilight, he did the opposite.

nice recap of the last 5 years. good talk.
LeftCoaster
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Island City, BC
Joined: 07.03.2009

Sep 25 @ 1:48 PM ET
I think this camp has shown us why some of these scraps Benning acquired were let go by their former teams. They probably got outplayed/outworked by bubble players on their previous teams.


That’s why they were available in the first place.

- Nucker101

This is the rub, hes repeatedly reached for sub-standard players while proclaiming he thinks the team can scratch itself into the playoffs.

They've never had a chance at the playoffs after the first year. They should've been rebuilding thru the entire draft not just the first round, where's it's becoming very apparent he didn't pick very well in 2014 or 2016.

In 2016 they only picked six times including four picks in the last three rounds, 5-6-7-7. When you finish 3rd last in the league, and your draft is set up like that, this is the poop you get. That's not the sign of a rebuilding team!
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Sep 25 @ 1:53 PM ET
it's not about intention, it's about the critical ability to assess a situation and find a way forward.

anyway, he's a good boy who loves his father. they both love their hockey team and wanted a quick turn around. they were both wrong. instead of providing his father entertaining hockey in his twilight, he did the opposite.

nice recap of the last 5 years. good talk.

- RealityChecker




Makes the stupidity less nonsensical.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Sep 25 @ 1:58 PM ET
This is the rub, hes repeatedly reached for sub-standard players while proclaiming he thinks the team can scratch itself into the playoffs.

They've never had a chance at the playoffs after the first year. They should've been rebuilding thru the entire draft not just the first round, where's it's becoming very apparent he didn't pick very well in 2014 or 2016.

In 2016 they only picked six times including four picks in the last three rounds, 5-6-7-7. When you finish 3rd last in the league, and your draft is set up like that, this is the poop you get. That's not the sign of a rebuilding team!

- LeftCoaster


I'm calling the send downs.

Gaudette goes down for half a season, a trade should be made to open a spot for him.

Motte goes down because of he plays a game he becomes waiver fodder. First injury call up.

Archibald goes down and is traded for a late pick to a playoff team looking for some depth.

Gaunce stays up until Rousel comes back from injury, depending on how he plays, he or Liepsic get waived and claimed in early December.

OJ goes down until a trade can be made.

If neilsson can be traded demko moves up by the deadline.

Flame on.
Nighthawk could you make a lineup reflecting these changes.
DuranDuran
Calgary Flames
Location: Quito
Joined: 09.29.2015

Sep 25 @ 2:30 PM ET
It was a dig at Calgary in case Duran was still creeping.
- Pres.cup


Just got back from lunch.

Hard pass on Granlund. Decent depth guy but would rather have Czarnick, Mangepane, or Dube instead.

Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Sep 25 @ 2:40 PM ET
Just got back from lunch.

Hard pass on Granlund. Decent depth guy but would rather have Czarnick, Mangepane, or Dube instead.


- DuranDuran


Must be nice
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Sep 25 @ 2:41 PM ET
Just got back from lunch.

Hard pass on Granlund. Decent depth guy but would rather have Czarnick, Mangepane, or Dube instead.


- DuranDuran

Can we interest you in a Gaunce?
LeftCoaster
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Island City, BC
Joined: 07.03.2009

Sep 25 @ 2:53 PM ET
Must be nice
- Nucker101

If Benning wouldn't have went after Gudbranson in 2016, he'd have kept his 2nd round pick and they could've drafted Dube in the second round, but who needs skilled players when you can waste picks on a #5 dman....right?

BTW....not directed at you, just a general comment, they could've picked any one of these skilled players, Jordan Kryo, Rasmus Asplund, Alex DeBrincat, Samuel Girad, Carter Hart, Kale Clague, or Taylor Raddysh just to name a few in the second round.
LeftCoaster
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Island City, BC
Joined: 07.03.2009

Sep 25 @ 2:57 PM ET
** don't forget about the keeper league draft this week **



Live Draft: Thu Sep 27 10:00pm EDT
Carol Schram
Joined: 09.27.2013

Sep 25 @ 2:59 PM ET
New blog is up, shedding some light on the dark game in Salt Lake City, checking in on Gaudette and Juolevi and setting up tonight's game in Edmonton:

https://www.hockeybuzz.co...h-night-in-Utah/194/94944
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Sep 25 @ 3:08 PM ET
Ottawa’s scraps would be a new low, even for this team
- Nucker101


Gaunce and Leipsic for Smith and a 3rd. We get our 3rd line C, some additional glue and protection for the kids, get rid of some scraps.
DuranDuran
Calgary Flames
Location: Quito
Joined: 09.29.2015

Sep 25 @ 3:24 PM ET
Can we interest you in a Gaunce?
- CanuckDon


I am going to have to pass.

But if you have no need for your Boeser we would be more than happy to listen.
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