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kfinl170
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.05.2010

Sep 24 @ 10:20 PM ET
Anyone know when the 3rd jerseys are being released, seems like everyone else’s are out but ours
Berfaller
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo , NY
Joined: 06.26.2013

Sep 24 @ 11:49 PM ET
If you're going to joke about cancer, at least be funny.

Thanks for enlightening us all on Josh Allen though. Honestly, if you can't trust a Pens fan from Rochester that can't enjoy Bills win without throwing shade, who can you trust?

In all seriousness though, excellent article.
To poop on.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Sep 25 @ 12:01 AM ET
James Conner is a mediocre runner but a pretty damn lethal receiving back. Huge drop off from Bell.

This defense isn't winning us a Super Bowl. RIP in peace, Shazier.

- Victoro311


I honestly don't understand how the defense can continually get worse. Their secondary has been a joke for years. I miss Ike Taylor.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Sep 25 @ 12:02 AM ET
If you're going to joke about cancer, at least be funny.

Thanks for enlightening us all on Josh Allen though. Honestly, if you can't trust a Pens fan from Rochester that can't enjoy Bills win without throwing shade, who can you trust?

In all seriousness though, excellent article.
To poop on.

- Berfaller


I'm actually shocked that he even made that joke, given the lefty posts he makes on twitter, I figured he probably offended himself.
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Sep 25 @ 12:46 AM ET
The Steelers defensive coverage looks like garbage right now. We'll have a loong year of bad plays.

LeVeon Bell 🔔 Will be an ex-Steeler pretty soon. Sucks. And he used to be a Steeler fan on his youth.
VeryModernMan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Munich
Joined: 06.06.2017

Sep 25 @ 8:21 AM ET
Sprong has trained with Letang this summer http://www.post-gazette.c...ason/stories/201809240056 , and triblive sees him playing top line with Sid and Jake: https://triblive.com/spor...rt-of-daniel-sprongs-game
VeryModernMan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Munich
Joined: 06.06.2017

Sep 25 @ 8:24 AM ET
Anyone know when the 3rd jerseys are being released, seems like everyone else’s are out but ours
- kfinl170


If, then i think with the outdoor-game...
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Sep 25 @ 8:41 AM ET
Sprong has trained with Letang this summer http://www.post-gazette.c...ason/stories/201809240056 , and triblive sees him playing top line with Sid and Jake: https://triblive.com/spor...rt-of-daniel-sprongs-game
- VeryModernMan


How long has Tanger had the tats on his left arm?

Also, reading about Sprong & his details about changing his game, I really hope that doesn't change his play completely & he loses all his natural instinct!
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Sep 25 @ 8:48 AM ET
The Steelers defensive coverage looks like garbage right now. We'll have a loong year of bad plays.

LeVeon Bell 🔔 Will be an ex-Steeler pretty soon. Sucks. And he used to be a Steeler fan on his youth.

- Barnaby36


They need to trade him for a defensive playmaker, be it in the secondary or a new middle linebacker now they Shazier is gone. I’d prefer the secondary because their cornerbacks are so bad at turning their heads to look for the ball/pass.
cranktheradio
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Greensburg, PA
Joined: 07.02.2011

Sep 25 @ 9:00 AM ET
They need to trade him for a defensive playmaker, be it in the secondary or a new middle linebacker now they Shazier is gone. I’d prefer the secondary because their cornerbacks are so bad at turning their heads to look for the ball/pass.
- j.boyd919

It's frustrating because they do put decent draft picks into their secondary. Just no one lives up to their potential.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 25 @ 9:02 AM ET
They need to trade him for a defensive playmaker, be it in the secondary or a new middle linebacker now they Shazier is gone. I’d prefer the secondary because their cornerbacks are so bad at turning their heads to look for the ball/pass.
- j.boyd919


Jaylen Mills and a 3rd
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Sep 25 @ 9:20 AM ET
I honestly don't understand how the defense can continually get worse. Their secondary has been a joke for years. I miss Ike Taylor.
- j.boyd919

Which is weird because Taylor wasn’t even that great. He was solid in his prime but he was never a star.

Last year I pretty much came to the conclusion that we’re not winning another one during the Big Ben era. Shazier almost made our defense good enough to make up for Tomlin and Haley dragging us down, but now that he’s gone, it’s over for us.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Sep 25 @ 9:44 AM ET
Josh Allen might suck, or he might not, but JC, I've never seen so many pundits (I use that term liberally here) so ready to pounce on a prospect in any sport. Everyone is tripping over themselves to be right about him sucking
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Sep 25 @ 9:49 AM ET
It's frustrating because they do put decent draft picks into their secondary. Just no one lives up to their potential.
- cranktheradio

True. I actually don't hate Burns and Davis but they need to be better. Period. I don't know what they see in Sensabaugh. Burnett is pretty meh too. I like Haden.
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Sep 25 @ 9:50 AM ET
Anyone know when the 3rd jerseys are being released, seems like everyone else’s are out but ours
- kfinl170

Bring back the Pigeon!The black jersey.
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Sep 25 @ 9:52 AM ET
Which is weird because Taylor wasn’t even that great. He was solid in his prime but he was never a star.

Last year I pretty much came to the conclusion that we’re not winning another one during the Big Ben era. Shazier almost made our defense good enough to make up for Tomlin and Haley dragging us down, but now that he’s gone, it’s over for us.

- Victoro311

Ben is not getting any groove with Antonio Brown right now. In all our team sucks on offense and defende. Just a disfunctional Team.
sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CO
Joined: 05.05.2011

Sep 25 @ 10:16 AM ET
Josh Allen might suck, or he might not, but JC, I've never seen so many pundits (I use that term liberally here) so ready to pounce on a prospect in any sport. Everyone is tripping over themselves to be right about him sucking
- jcragcrumple


What's great about this board is when a prospect clearly sucks and the team has moved on, they try to do everything they can to prove they somehow see something special in said prospect and cry about why they got the shaft. Its quite entertaining.

Beau Bennett, Despress, DP, etc....someone here will still cry about someone who was moved and never given a fair chance.
sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CO
Joined: 05.05.2011

Sep 25 @ 10:17 AM ET
Ben is not getting any groove with Antonio Brown right now. In all our team sucks on offense and defende. Just a disfunctional Team.
- Barnaby36


The division sucks so the Steelers do have a good shot at a playoff spot.
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Sep 25 @ 10:21 AM ET
What's great about this board is when a prospect clearly sucks and the team has moved on, they try to do everything they can to prove they somehow see something special in said prospect and cry about why they got the shaft. Its quite entertaining.

Beau Bennett, Despress, DP, etc....someone here will still cry about someone who was moved and never given a fair chance.

- sammy87

DESPRES wasn't bad imo. He actually got a pretty good deal in Anaheim after he left.
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Sep 25 @ 10:22 AM ET
The division sucks so the Steelers do have a good shot at a playoff spot.
- sammy87

I believe so too but these highscoring games suck when you have a terrible D as we do. LeVeon Bell is missed a lot too.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Sep 25 @ 10:28 AM ET
They need to trade him for a defensive playmaker, be it in the secondary or a new middle linebacker now they Shazier is gone. I’d prefer the secondary because their cornerbacks are so bad at turning their heads to look for the ball/pass.
- j.boyd919


He has to sign the franchise tag with the Steelers to be traded. Even if he does agree to a sign and trade deal, the acquiring team can't extend him either and Bell does not seem interested in risking it. I'm not sure he plays a down of football this season. I could easily see him report for the last 6 games completely out of shape and the Steelers just pay him to sit. I think this is growing more likely by the week.

At best the Steelers will get a 2nd or 3rd if Bell agrees to play for a new team because he's a rental. Apparently an out of shape rental too. The Steelers botched this whole situation. They should have seen it coming.
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Sep 25 @ 10:35 AM ET
I believe so too but these highscoring games suck when you have a terrible D as we do. LeVeon Bell is missed a lot too.
- Barnaby36


I really don't understand trades in the NFL. People are saying Bell's top value is a 2nd round pick. I would assume if a trade goes through, there is an agreement in place on a long term deal so they'd be trading for the full value of Bell, not the guy that wont play this season. If NFL trades were like NHL trades, someone would offer a 1st, a starting cornerback, and a depth player haha.

All that said, I have only heard about picks as a potential return. Is there no team with depth on defense that would trade a defensive starter for Bell?
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Sep 25 @ 10:36 AM ET
Josh Allen might suck, or he might not, but JC, I've never seen so many pundits (I use that term liberally here) so ready to pounce on a prospect in any sport. Everyone is tripping over themselves to be right about him sucking
- jcragcrumple

He sucks.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Sep 25 @ 10:36 AM ET
Which is weird because Taylor wasn’t even that great. He was solid in his prime but he was never a star.

Last year I pretty much came to the conclusion that we’re not winning another one during the Big Ben era. Shazier almost made our defense good enough to make up for Tomlin and Haley dragging us down, but now that he’s gone, it’s over for us.

- Victoro311


Steelers will have a bunch of cap space next season. I have no idea if there will be decent free agents available, but I think they may be able to put a band-aid on the D and compete for a championship.

To your larger point, yeah, Shazier was a star. Can't replace him. Drafting has killed the defense. Missed on too many high draft picks. Tomlin has become Dan Bylsma but the Steelers won't ever fire him. Sucks.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Sep 25 @ 10:41 AM ET
He sucks.
- Feds91Stammer


Maybe. I didn't like the pick when it was made. He looked good on Sunday though. The broader point I'm making is that so many people got their egos tied up in yelling "he sucks!" Now people are basically rooting for him to suck
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