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Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Sep 30 @ 10:06 PM ET
Blow it out your ass.


- Wetbandit1


gordong
Location: NY
Joined: 02.06.2007

Sep 30 @ 10:15 PM ET
kiddie time here I see... how cute
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Sep 30 @ 10:15 PM ET
Please tell me all about Goff’s WRs his rookie year

I’ll wait... a while...

- jdfitz77


You mean the year he went 0-7?

And for the record Kenny Britt and Tavon Austin would be immediate upgrades over Ray Ray McCloud and Andre Holmes and Kelvin "I Couldn't Catch Pneumonia in a Turkish Prison" Benjamin.

Edit: Then they got a coach who knew his bumhole from his elbow, and added Watkins, Woods and Kupp and went 11-5.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Sep 30 @ 10:20 PM ET
That’s BOOFING, right?
- Der Kaiser


I think it's the one where you put 3 glasses in a triangle(as if it could be any other shape) and try and bounce quarters in them.
gordong
Location: NY
Joined: 02.06.2007

Sep 30 @ 10:21 PM ET
You mean the year he went 0-7?

And for the record Kenny Britt and Tavon Austin would be immediate upgrades over Ray Ray McCloud and Andre Holmes and Kelvin "I Couldn't Catch Pneumonia in a Turkish Prison" Benjamin.

Edit: Then they got a coach who knew his bumhole from his elbow, and added Watkins, Woods and Kupp and went 11-5.

- Wetbandit1


=NOT READY...
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Sep 30 @ 10:23 PM ET
You mean the year he went 0-7?

And for the record Kenny Britt and Tavon Austin would be immediate upgrades over Ray Ray McCloud and Andre Holmes and Kelvin "I Couldn't Catch Pneumonia in a Turkish Prison" Benjamin.

- Wetbandit1


And the Rams were SMART enough to not throw their FRANCHISE QB to the wolves
Unlike us
Unlike what u guys think is a good idea

Dude...
calling my point of view “idiotic” is just a joke
Take off the “homer” glasses
I want him to be good NOW too
But that’s not realistic

There’s nothing wrong with developing the kid at a slower pace
Especially since we all knew he needed MUCH work still when he was drafted

Seriously... it’s ok
We just have to not screw him up
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Sep 30 @ 10:24 PM ET
=NOT READY...
- gordong


Exactly

Goff wasn’t
Neither is Allen

How many games like this will it take?
U clowns were Tyrod fans for 2+ years
Yikes
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Sep 30 @ 10:27 PM ET
And the Rams were SMART enough to not throw their FRANCHISE QB to the wolves
Unlike us
Unlike what u guys think is a good idea

Dude...
calling my point of view “idiotic” is just a joke
Take off the “homer” glasses
I want him to be good NOW too
But that’s not realistic

There’s nothing wrong with developing the kid at a slower pace
Especially since we all knew he needed MUCH work still when he was drafted

Seriously... it’s ok
We just have to not screw him up

- jdfitz77


What are you talking about? Fisher put him in in a last bid attempt to save his job. That's exactly what they did.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Sep 30 @ 10:35 PM ET
What are you talking about? Fisher put him in in a last bid attempt to save his job. That's exactly what they did.
- Wetbandit1


They knew wasn’t ready...
so they sat him for the first half of the season

Idk what u mean?

Whether or not Fisher got desperate doesn’t change that they didn’t wanna play the kid too soon

U guys are the only ones that think it won’t damage the kid
Wetbandit1
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Sep 30 @ 10:41 PM ET
They knew wasn’t ready...
so they sat him for the first half of the season

Idk what u mean?

Whether or not Fisher got desperate doesn’t change that they didn’t wanna play the kid too soon

U guys are the only ones that think it won’t damage the kid

- jdfitz77


Because they knew Keenum sucked, and there was nothing to be gained by not letting him play, even with the terrible talent around him, so they let Goff learn on the job.

I've said it probably twenty times(including once already today). If the Bills had a viable QB I'd be all for letting Allen sit, but they don't, so he plays.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Sep 30 @ 10:58 PM ET
Because they knew Keenum sucked, and there was nothing to be gained by not letting him play, even with the terrible talent around him, so they let Goff learn on the job.

I've said it probably twenty times(including once already today). If the Bills had a viable QB I'd be all for letting Allen sit, but they don't, so he plays.

- Wetbandit1


Sorry man, but this is ALL nonsense

If the Bills thought Allen was ready to learn on the job...
the why didn’t they start him week 1 ?????

According to u guys,
he didn’t learn anything by sitting on the sidelines
So what made him “ready” to start week2?

NO ONE ever answers that
I just get typical troll responses

Whether Peterman was good or not...
that had ZERO...
ABSOLUTELY ZERO...
say on whether or not Allen was ready for action


And to keep with the Rams comparison...
why didn’t they put Goff in earlier?
Why not week2 like us?
Or week4?
Or week6?

They waited for a PURPOSE

U guys just have no patience whatsoever
It’s the same with all the Sabres guys too
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
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Joined: 10.07.2010

Sep 30 @ 11:05 PM ET
Sorry man, but this is ALL nonsense

If the Bills thought Allen was ready to learn on the job...
the why didn’t they start him week 1 ?????

According to u guys,
he didn’t learn anything by sitting on the sidelines
So what made him “ready” to start week 2 ?

- jdfitz77


Holy poop dude, because Peterman is awful. They started Peterman in the hope that he wasn't completely incompetent and could hold the fort. But he is completely incompetent and Allen has nothing to lose by playing. It's going to be ugly at times, yes.

You can only come up with 2 QBs playing for expansion teams(Carr and Couch) as reasons why not to start him. I've listed at least 3 Hall of Famers(Aikman and the Mannings) who had bad to catastrophic rookie years. Either Allen has it or he doesn't. "Rushing" him is nonsense, sure, it will make it more likely we get games like today, but then he was never supposed to play today anyways, so it's kind of irrelevent, if you can actually sit there and say Peterman would be better you're a totally lost cause.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Sep 30 @ 11:07 PM ET
Sorry man, but this is ALL nonsense

If the Bills thought Allen was ready to learn on the job...
the why didn’t they start him week 1 ?????

According to u guys,
he didn’t learn anything by sitting on the sidelines
So what made him “ready” to start week2?

NO ONE ever answers that
I just get typical troll responses

Whether Peterman was good or not...
that had ZERO...
ABSOLUTELY ZERO...
say on whether or not Allen was ready for action


And to keep with the Rams comparison...
why didn’t they put Goff in earlier?
Why not week2 like us?
Or week4?
Or week6?

They waited for a PURPOSE

U guys just have no patience whatsoever
It’s the same with all the Sabres guys too

- jdfitz77

Getting beat up or having poor WR’s will mean nothing long term.

He either will have it or he doesn’t have it. Starting him now starts the process on finding that out so we don’t waste four years instead of 3
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
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Joined: 10.07.2010

Sep 30 @ 11:12 PM ET
Getting beat up or having poor WR’s will mean nothing long term.

He either will have it or he doesn’t have it. Starting him now starts the process on finding that out so we don’t waste four years instead of 3

- sbroads24


Add to the fact that NFL coaches coach for today, not 4 or 5 years from now, because more than likely they're not going to be here 4 or 5 years from now, they're already auditioning for their next job.

Some people utterly fail to grasp that simple point.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Sep 30 @ 11:16 PM ET
Add to the fact that NFL coaches coach for today, not 4 or 5 years from now, because more than likely they're not going to be here 4 or 5 years from now, they're already auditioning for their next job.

Some people utterly fail to grasp that simple point.

- Wetbandit1

I am kind of perplexed with what Beane was thinking on offense.

Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
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Joined: 10.07.2010

Sep 30 @ 11:17 PM ET
I am kind of perplexed with what Beane was thinking on offense.
- sbroads24


I think he had his chart and he wasn't going to "reach". He's strikes me as a very inflexible guy.

And to some extent he was handcuffed by the cap.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Sep 30 @ 11:18 PM ET
Getting beat up or having poor WR’s will mean nothing long term.

He either will have it or he doesn’t have it. Starting him now starts the process on finding that out so we don’t waste four years instead of 3

- sbroads24


BANDIT,
THIS IS FOR YOU TOO

If the bolder is the case,
and you guys are correct...

Then tell me why NFL teams (and not just this sport)
DO NOT
just take talented rookies & throw them in right away?

Literally EVERY expert, commentator, etc
said that Allen is gonna need time to develop

You guys are saying “time to develop” before u play isn’t a thing

EVERY SINGLE NFL TEAM (and all their coaches and management) DISAGREE

So do i
It makes a difference if u throw someon in there too soon
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Sep 30 @ 11:22 PM ET
Holy poop dude, because Peterman is awful. They started Peterman in the hope that he wasn't completely incompetent and could hold the fort. But he is completely incompetent and Allen has nothing to lose by playing. It's going to be ugly at times, yes.

You can only come up with 2 QBs playing for expansion teams(Carr and Couch) as reasons why not to start him. I've listed at least 3 Hall of Famers(Aikman and the Mannings) who had bad to catastrophic rookie years. Either Allen has it or he doesn't. "Rushing" him is nonsense, sure, it will make it more likely we get games like today, but then he was never supposed to play today anyways, so it's kind of irrelevent, if you can actually sit there and say Peterman would be better you're a totally lost cause.

- Wetbandit1


Ok... then seriously...
explain WHY any
(and by “any” i actually mean “every”)
single team in the NFL doesn’t just start every high draft pick with talent right away

They either have it, or they don’t...
right?
Again... nonsense dude
Some ppl need time
It’s a FACT
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Sep 30 @ 11:28 PM ET
BANDIT,
THIS IS FOR YOU TOO

If the bolder is the case,
and you guys are correct...

Then tell me why NFL teams (and not just this sport)
DO NOT
just take talented rookies & throw them in right away?

Literally EVERY expert, commentator, etc
said that Allen is gonna need time to develop

You guys are saying “time to develop” before u play isn’t a thing

EVERY SINGLE NFL TEAM (and all their coaches and management) DISAGREE

So do i
It makes a difference if u throw someon in there too soon

- jdfitz77


They don't put them in because they have better options. Plain and simple. Coaches can't afford to sit on a guy just because he might be good in 4 years and they don't want to "rush" him. Because that coach won't be there in 4 years, so they do what they can to win today. That's how the NFL works whether you like it or not.

The most "ready" guy in Rosen had a pretty poopty day today. Darnold was pretty awful too.

Mayfield barely completed 50% and had 2 picks. All those guys were so much more "ready".

Mayfield has one win, Darnold has one win, Allen has one win, Rosen has zero wins.


Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Sep 30 @ 11:29 PM ET
I am kind of perplexed with what Beane was thinking on offense.
- sbroads24


I think Beane has a couple of guys he really likes in the draft.

50 million in cap space

A 2nd year QB next year.

What's the easiest way to lose in football?

Leave huge holes in the offensive line, have zero talent a wr. And a rookie qb
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Sep 30 @ 11:29 PM ET
Ok... then seriously...
explain WHY any
(and by “any” i actually mean “every”)
single team in the NFL doesn’t just start every high draft pick with talent right away

They either have it, or they don’t...
right?
Again... nonsense dude
Some ppl need time
It’s a FACT

- jdfitz77


What don't you understand about just how bad Peterman is? Seriously? Darnold started right away, Mayfield started as soon as Tyrod had a bad half, Rosen started as soon as Bradford stumbled too, the Bills just made the decision sooner, because Peterman isn't good enough for the Arena league.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Sep 30 @ 11:34 PM ET
Benjamin sucks...and appears to be an A-hole
Good thing he is showing the league what he has in his contract year.

- IonSabres



I was hoping maybe we could get a 3rd for Benjamin at the deadline.

He flat out gave up on plays today. His body language was terrible. Thought he was a "mcbeane" guy. High character ect.

Allen was horrible, at least he is a rookie and may not be READY. I really wanted to see peterman. Let Allen watch and learn even for a series or 2.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Sep 30 @ 11:39 PM ET
BANDIT,
THIS IS FOR YOU TOO

If the bolder is the case,
and you guys are correct...

Then tell me why NFL teams (and not just this sport)
DO NOT
just
take talented rookies & throw them in right away?

Literally EVERY expert, commentator, etc
said that Allen is gonna need time to develop

You guys are saying “time to develop” before u play isn’t a thing

EVERY SINGLE NFL TEAM (and all their coaches and management) DISAGREE

So do i
It makes a difference if u throw someon in there too soon

- jdfitz77

All 5 rookie 1st round QB’s have played already. 4 starting.

It’s week 4
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Sep 30 @ 11:50 PM ET
BANDIT,
THIS IS FOR YOU TOO

If the bolder is the case,
and you guys are correct...

Then tell me why NFL teams (and not just this sport)
DO NOT
just take talented rookies & throw them in right away?

Literally EVERY expert, commentator, etc
said that Allen is gonna need time to develop

You guys are saying “time to develop” before u play isn’t a thing

EVERY SINGLE NFL TEAM (and all their coaches and management) DISAGREE

So do i
It makes a difference if u throw someon in there too soon

- jdfitz77

Players can benefit from sitting behind the right guy. Playing them too soon can delay their development. It won't kill it, not if they have what it takes in the first place.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Oct 1 @ 12:05 AM ET
Players can benefit from sitting behind the right guy. Playing them too soon can delay their development. It won't kill it, not if they have what it takes in the first place.
- buffalofan19



And let's face it, Pegula is not the most patient man in the world either. He's paying how many coaches and players not to coach or play for his teams?
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