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thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Oct 12 @ 12:47 PM ET
Are you the GM or a supervisor?
- VANTEL

A$$ GM.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Oct 12 @ 12:48 PM ET
Gagne tried coasting through.
- thundachunk


I like that young players entering the draft can pass vets a lot sooner. They get paid very good money so if you coast you will be passed.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Oct 12 @ 12:49 PM ET

- RealityChecker

Should have
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Oct 12 @ 12:50 PM ET
Next time Canucks put someone on waivers, I sure hope they do it, the right way.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Oct 12 @ 12:51 PM ET
I was promoted in May and my first job was to fire a guy. I don't like doing it or seeing anyone lose there job but I still do it myself and look the guy in the eye and tell him why.
- thundachunk

That's because you have professional integrity.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Oct 12 @ 12:53 PM ET
You mean like trading Sedins Edler Tanev back then?

NTC/ NMC and loyalty were a big reason the team did not start a rebuild back in 2013.

It is a beaten dead horse. So many things have handcuffed the Canucks.

- VANTEL


That was the start for me, the writing was on the wall, they should've stripped the team down back then. Trading for Gudbranson and Sutter was a huge mistake. But whatever, they didn't.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Oct 12 @ 12:55 PM ET
That's because you have professional integrity.
- LeftCoaster


The point is Gagner did not get fired . He is still under employment of the Canucks , he can still be recalled by the Canucks. He was demoted or assigned a new station call it what you want but he was not fired. He was waived.

It means he was not good enough. When he is bough out this coming summer I am sure Jim will call him in the office so he doesn't have hurt feelings.


Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Oct 12 @ 12:55 PM ET
Gagner's "special treatment" to play in Toronto has just as much to do with a roster jam in Utica as it does with his wishes to play closer to home. Some of our top young guys can't even get into games in Utica so far.

And we'll agree to disagree regarding Jim's handling of the situation. As someone who manages a team of people, all I can say is that I would have handled a demotion differently and I would have spoken to the person directly, not delegated it.

- nucks_94


I also manage a large group that directly report to me and it is my responsibility to interact directly with them, and I have reassigned several people over the years, not once, never ever, has a Director stepped up and said, Hey Makita let me personally have a discussion with the person you are reassigning.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Oct 12 @ 12:59 PM ET
That was the start for me, the writing was on the wall, they should've stripped the team down back then. Trading for Gudbranson and Sutter was a huge mistake. But whatever, they didn't.
- LeftCoaster



They traded for the Big Tough Dman right around when the game was changing to speed. The timing for that trade could not have been more wrong.

Sutter has showed over and over he is still needed on this club through the transition but hey feel free to hate him .
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Oct 12 @ 1:05 PM ET
Wonder 8f the great Ron Hextall, personally contacted Sam Gagner, when he waived him.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Oct 12 @ 1:06 PM ET
Wonder 8f the great Ron Hextall, personally contacted Sam Gagner, when he waived him.
- Reubenkincade


According to Gagner it was the middle of the season so it was different. I guess sucking at the beginning of the year is different than sucking in the middle.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Oct 12 @ 1:09 PM ET
Rick Dhaliwal@DhaliwalSports1h1 hour ago

Have heard from the #Canucks regarding Gagner saying he was informed by his agent he was cut. Jim has talked with Gagner and his agent this morning. There was communication between Green, Benning and Gagner from the beginning.

Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Oct 12 @ 1:10 PM ET
According to Gagner it was the middle of the season so it was different. I guess sucking at the beginning of the year is different than sucking in the middle.
- VANTEL

RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Oct 12 @ 1:12 PM ET
Wonder 8f the great Ron Hextall, personally contacted Sam Gagner, when he waived him.
- Reubenkincade

haha, you know i had to google it!

“He could have [practiced],” Hextall said. “It’s a difficult day for the kid. So we felt it was the right thing to do, tell him he did not have to practice. Take the day to get your head together.”

https://www.nbcsports.com...option-waiving-sam-gagner
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Oct 12 @ 1:17 PM ET
Rick Dhaliwal@DhaliwalSports1h1 hour ago

Have heard from the #Canucks regarding Gagner saying he was informed by his agent he was cut. Jim has talked with Gagner and his agent this morning. There was communication between Green, Benning and Gagner from the beginning.

- VANTEL


I blame the bullpoop of the last few pages on lefty and his false reporting. this is almost as bad as when he sourced a rumor on here from tanbir
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Oct 12 @ 1:18 PM ET
Rick Dhaliwal@DhaliwalSports1h1 hour ago

Have heard from the #Canucks regarding Gagner saying he was informed by his agent he was cut. Jim has talked with Gagner and his agent this morning. There was communication between Green, Benning and Gagner from the beginning.

- VANTEL


Well there ya go.


Gagner is understandably salty that he’ll be riding AHL buses this entire season.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Oct 12 @ 1:19 PM ET
Wonder 8f the great Ron Hextall, personally contacted Sam Gagner, when he waived him.
- Reubenkincade


He did
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Oct 12 @ 1:22 PM ET
They traded for the Big Tough Dman right around when the game was changing to speed. The timing for that trade could not have been more wrong.

Sutter has showed over and over he is still needed on this club through the transition but hey feel free to hate him .

- VANTEL

It's the draft picks they spent to acquire them that's the issue for me. They're were trying to be competitive instead of rebuilding.

They gave up McCann, 33rd, 55th, 94th picks, Bonino and Forsling via Clendenning to acquire those two.
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Oct 12 @ 1:22 PM ET
Rick Dhaliwal@DhaliwalSports1h1 hour ago

Have heard from the #Canucks regarding Gagner saying he was informed by his agent he was cut. Jim has talked with Gagner and his agent this morning. There was communication between Green, Benning and Gagner from the beginning.

- VANTEL

VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Oct 12 @ 1:22 PM ET
He did
- Nucker101


“You look at everything,” Hextall said during a phone interview from Finland where he’s attending the World Junior Championships. “We looked at everything and nothing was really, ‘look at this, it’s a great option.’

Did he?
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Oct 12 @ 1:23 PM ET
haha, you know i had to google it!

“He could have

- RealityChecker[practiced],” Hextall said. “It’s a difficult day for the kid. So we felt it was the right thing to do, tell him he did not have to practice. Take the day to get your head together.”

https://www.nbcsports.com...option-waiving-sam-gagner

Hey Hextall, got anymore scraps!!
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Oct 12 @ 1:23 PM ET
Well there ya go.


Gagner is understandably salty that he’ll be riding AHL buses this entire season.

- Nucker101

he can pull a wade redden and buy a brand new comfy one for the team!
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Oct 12 @ 1:24 PM ET
“You look at everything,” Hextall said during a phone interview from Finland where he’s attending the World Junior Championships. “We looked at everything and nothing was really, ‘look at this, it’s a great option.’

Did he?

- VANTEL

Honestly I don’t care about Gagner


He’s played like ass for both of my teams
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Oct 12 @ 1:25 PM ET
I blame the bullpoop of the last few pages on lefty and his false reporting. this is almost as bad as when he sourced a rumor on here from tanbir
- Codes1087

You're awesome, I didn't report anything, I shared a quote Gagner said he wasn't told by the Canucks he'd been waived, he was waived ten days ago and the Canucks are once again doing damage control so Benning called him THIS MORNING ten days later

He said, she said, lol.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Oct 12 @ 1:26 PM ET
Rick Dhaliwal@DhaliwalSports1h1 hour ago

Have heard from the #Canucks regarding Gagner saying he was informed by his agent he was cut. Jim has talked with Gagner and his agent this morning. There was communication between Green, Benning and Gagner from the beginning.

- VANTEL


Not surprising. So final word went to his agent, it's not like you didn't have multiple conversations/oppertunity. You didn't perform, beat it!
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