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NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Oct 15 @ 1:05 PM ET
Again, if he’s out for 7-10 days then what’s the harm in leaving him with a team doctor in Florida for a couple of days just in case?

What’s there to gain by having him fly with the team the next day if he can’t play?


Demko’s symptoms worsened after flying despite getting cleared.

Professional doctors let Crosby play the next game where he got hit by Hedman along the boards after suffering a concussion against the Capitals the previous game.

- Nucker101


There's nothing wrong with leaving him there – I think they probably should have been cautious and done that. However, if he has really minor symptoms, no swelling, and is basically fine and they're just holding him out of the lineup as a caution, why is everyone getting their panties in a knot?

Basically, we're not doctors, we have no idea what his symptoms actually are, and we're all following the media's hype/"information" on this.

Concussions are difficult, especially since some people get over them fine, others suffer horribly, some take days for symptoms to come on... it's tricky and super case-by-case.
chompsey
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cody Hodgson can walk on water
Joined: 10.04.2005

Oct 15 @ 1:07 PM ET
Never be able to take the childish stuff out. I'm sure you know 30 plus years olds that act like they are 15 still.
- manvanfan



Can't disagree with that.

Just watching EP40 play, I'm convinced he's a generational talent....maybe not quite McDavidesque but not far off. HE NEEDS THE SUPPORT OF THE LEAGUE! His team very least.

JB needs to recognize this. If teams are allowed to take liberties like this past weekend, then my man JB needs to go....
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Oct 15 @ 1:09 PM ET
There's nothing wrong with leaving him there – I think they probably should have been cautious and done that. However, if he has really minor symptoms, no swelling, and is basically fine and they're just holding him out of the lineup as a caution, why is everyone getting their panties in a knot?

Basically, we're not doctors, we have no idea what his symptoms actually are, and we're all following the media's hype/"information" on this.

Concussions are difficult, especially since some people get over them fine, others suffer horribly, some take days for symptoms to come on... it's tricky and super case-by-case
.

- NewYorkNuck



Exactly my point. Some people feel fine for a day and then start feeling the symptoms later.


It’s still a grey area and should be treated as such. It’s unfair to expect doctors to be 100% correct when there’s new data/research still being done on the subject.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Oct 15 @ 1:09 PM ET
Can't disagree with that.

Just watching EP40 play, I'm convinced he's a generational talent....maybe not quite McDavidesque but not far off. HE NEEDS THE SUPPORT OF THE LEAGUE! His team very least.

JB needs to recognize this. If teams are allowed to take liberties like this past weekend, then my man JB needs to go....

- chompsey

CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Oct 15 @ 1:13 PM ET
Answer me one question and I’ll drop this. What’s the benefit of flying him with the team instead of being extra cautious if he’s not playing anyway?

I see more downside than upside.

- Nucker101

What is a 19 year old going to do in Florida for a few days solo? Play fornight that’s what. Kid is already addicted as is
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Oct 15 @ 1:13 PM ET
Can't disagree with that.

Just watching EP40 play, I'm convinced he's a generational talent....maybe not quite McDavidesque but not far off. HE NEEDS THE SUPPORT OF THE LEAGUE! His team very least.

JB needs to recognize this. If teams are allowed to take liberties like this past weekend, then my man JB needs to go....

- chompsey

Sorry, I edited my post after. Anyways, I think if the league is serious about having a higher skilled with less fighting then the league does need to protect and police the cheap crap. Players will start to think twice about it if they are being suspended and hurting their teams.

Not to quote iMac since Nucker is so mad at him. But an eye for an eye just leaves everyone blind.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Oct 15 @ 1:13 PM ET
What is a 19 year old going to do in Florida for a few days solo? Play fornight that’s what. Kid is already addicted as is
- CanuckDon

that’s what I thought
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Oct 15 @ 1:15 PM ET
A reporter in the summer was saying he's a very selfish player and unless you play him with better players he's only out there for himself.
- manvanfan

i remember reading the same report and i was taken aback. also, i think it was also a member of the hawks front office who confirmed the opinion (anonymously of course.)
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Oct 15 @ 1:15 PM ET
There's nothing wrong with leaving him there – I think they probably should have been cautious and done that. However, if he has really minor symptoms, no swelling, and is basically fine and they're just holding him out of the lineup as a caution, why is everyone getting their panties in a knot?

Basically, we're not doctors, we have no idea what his symptoms actually are, and we're all following the media's hype/"information" on this.

Concussions are difficult, especially since some people get over them fine, others suffer horribly, some take days for symptoms to come on... it's tricky and super case-by-case.

- NewYorkNuck

I’d imagine it’s a minor headache and he felt fine the next day. Perhaps part of it was being winded and a bit of whip lash. Good news for us if so
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Oct 15 @ 1:15 PM ET
Sorry, I edited my post after. Anyways, I think if the league is serious about having a higher skilled with less fighting then the league does need to protect and police the cheap crap. Players will start to think twice about it if they are being suspended and hurting their teams.

Not to quote iMac since Nucker is so mad at him. But an eye for an eye just leaves everyone blind.

- manvanfan

Pillow biter mentality

Not mad at IMac, he’s doing what he has to stay employed. I just dislike shills who are afraid to think freely. If anything, I feel bad for him for not being able to speak his mind.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Oct 15 @ 1:16 PM ET
There's nothing wrong with leaving him there – I think they probably should have been cautious and done that. However, if he has really minor symptoms, no swelling, and is basically fine and they're just holding him out of the lineup as a caution, why is everyone getting their panties in a knot?

Basically, we're not doctors, we have no idea what his symptoms actually are, and we're all following the media's hype/"information" on this.

Concussions are difficult, especially since some people get over them fine, others suffer horribly, some take days for symptoms to come on... it's tricky and super case-by-case.

- NewYorkNuck

Probably the case. He's most likely fine but the Nucks will play it up a bit for the league so they look at suspending Matheson a bit harder. If they announce today that EP is ok and playing in PIT then basically the league says 'no big deal' and Matheson walks with a slap on the wrist. Chess games.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Oct 15 @ 1:16 PM ET
Goldobin takes Petterssons spot on top PP unit.
It also looks like Boeser is playing the point on both PP units
per Brendan Batchelor
chompsey
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cody Hodgson can walk on water
Joined: 10.04.2005

Oct 15 @ 1:17 PM ET
Sorry, I edited my post after. Anyways, I think if the league is serious about having a higher skilled with less fighting then the league does need to protect and police the cheap crap. Players will start to think twice about it if they are being suspended and hurting their teams.

Not to quote iMac since Nucker is so mad at him. But an eye for an eye just leaves everyone blind.

- manvanfan



Make the suspensions VERY heavy. I dont care if there is no history.

Suspend Matheson 10 games for that play and that poop stops there and then. 2nd offense, 25 games.

Tried of the cheap bullpoop. A late hit is one thing but bodyslamming a guy away from the play because he made you look bad deserves the book....
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Oct 15 @ 1:17 PM ET
Goldobin takes Petterssons spot on top PP unit.
It also looks like Boeser is playing the point on both PP units
per Brendan Batchelor

- Codes1087


The right move(Goldy)


2nd unit still sucks unless EP gets double shifted when he’s back(he should).
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Oct 15 @ 1:21 PM ET
Pillow biter mentality

Not mad at IMac, he’s doing what he has to stay employed. I just dislike shills who are afraid to think freely. If anything, I feel bad for him for not being able to speak his mind.

- Nucker101

He looks at things with perspective and context. Fans don't see things rationally because it has no actual effect on them.
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Oct 15 @ 1:21 PM ET
Pillow biter mentality

Not mad at IMac, he’s doing what he has to stay employed. I just dislike shills who are afraid to think freely. If anything, I feel bad for him for not being able to speak his mind.

- Nucker101

IMac isn't a reporter, he's PR.

but you can't blame the guy. he is a "newspaper reporter," who is probably in his 50s. after cuts in that industry, and being let go by the Sun, he's doing whatever he can to keep going until retirement.

he's a jukebox now. put in the money and pick the tune.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Oct 15 @ 1:21 PM ET
He looks at things with perspective and context. Fans don't see things rationally because it has no actual effect on them.
- manvanfan










VanHockeyGuy
Joined: 04.26.2012

Oct 15 @ 1:21 PM ET
Cause for concern, yep.

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.@patersonjeff: This is a massive issue going forward. Five games into his NHL career. You don't think that other teams see that there was no response, and there was no response last year to the Boeser/Lewis? If you're Boeser, sitting on the bench, what are you thinking?
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Oct 15 @ 1:21 PM ET
Goldobin takes Petterssons spot on top PP unit.
It also looks like Boeser is playing the point on both PP units
per Brendan Batchelor

- Codes1087

Thank you Codes.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Oct 15 @ 1:22 PM ET
IMac isn't a reporter, he's PR.

but you can't blame the guy. he is a "newspaper reporter," who is probably in his 50s. after cuts in that industry, he's doing whatever he can to keep going until retirement.

he's a jukebox now. put in the money and pick the tune.

- RealityChecker


He’s just as bad as Botch, anyone who posts an IMac article without the purpose of mocking it is just as bad as someone who believes every Botch rumour
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Oct 15 @ 1:22 PM ET
Cause for concern, yep.

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.@patersonjeff: This is a massive issue going forward. Five games into his NHL career. You don't think that other teams see that there was no response, and there was no response last year to the Boeser/Lewis? If you're Boeser, sitting on the bench, what are you thinking?

- VanHockeyGuy

The fact that Jpat is now urging it on literally means it's a non story anymore and he's just stirring poop up. No one has taken another liberty at Boeser.
chompsey
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cody Hodgson can walk on water
Joined: 10.04.2005

Oct 15 @ 1:23 PM ET
Cause for concern, yep.

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.@patersonjeff: This is a massive issue going forward. Five games into his NHL career. You don't think that other teams see that there was no response, and there was no response last year to the Boeser/Lewis? If you're Boeser, sitting on the bench, what are you thinking?

- VanHockeyGuy


Exactly.
chompsey
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cody Hodgson can walk on water
Joined: 10.04.2005

Oct 15 @ 1:24 PM ET
The fact that Jpat is now urging it on literally means it's a non story anymore and he's just stirring poop up. No one has taken another liberty at Boeser.
- manvanfan


Boeser aint scaring anyone right now. If he gets going again, I promise he'll take his share of cheapshots...
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Oct 15 @ 1:24 PM ET
Cause for concern, yep.

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.@patersonjeff: This is a massive issue going forward. Five games into his NHL career. You don't think that other teams see that there was no response, and there was no response last year to the Boeser/Lewis? If you're Boeser, sitting on the bench, what are you thinking?

- VanHockeyGuy



“Stay away from the boards”
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Oct 15 @ 1:24 PM ET
Bob McKenzie
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Elias Pettersson (concussion) remains with VAN on their road trip (PIT Tues and WPG Thursday) but will not be seeing any game action for a minimum of seven to 10 days and perhaps longer depending on his recovery from symptoms.
8:06 AM · Oct 15, 2018


So they have EP flying with the team despite concussion symptoms?


They can’t be this stupid.

- Nucker101


You know it, I know it, we all know it, yes, they are that stupid.
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