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RickJ
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burlington, ON
Joined: 01.12.2010

Oct 15 @ 1:42 PM ET
First, Nylander isn't great, he has potential. Potential and a $1.53 gets me a small coffee.

Second, the Leafs aren't going to take a bunch of Hawk retreads, never have beens and never will be's, they'll want at the very least a top end prospect or two or a young roster player in return.

Third, allegedly Nylander wants $8M a season. If the hawks give him that that how will they afford ADB and Schmaltz who may be better players?

The Hawks don't want Nylander for the same reason the Leafs are reluctant to pay him what he's demanding.

- paulr

Nylander wants $8M per because his agent compares his numbers to Leon Draisatl's.

His agent is Lew Gross, the same guy who shanghaied Stanbo over Saad that resulted in the trade for AA.

The Leafs won't pay him anywhere near $8M and actually should refuse to him anywhere near David Pastrnak's numbers as a comparable.

And most importantly, Babcock has decided that Nylander cannot play center at a top end NHL level so he is a winger going forward.

Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Oct 15 @ 1:43 PM ET


- DarthKane

Who cares? He will never see NA.
Spec41971
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Rolling meadows, IL
Joined: 03.04.2017

Oct 15 @ 1:45 PM ET
He's on a chute, not a ladder. Keeping it childish.
- I Am The Breadman


I like your analogy better than mine!
Return of the Roar
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Solidly grounded in reality, IL
Joined: 07.27.2009

Oct 15 @ 1:47 PM ET
No gimmick hockey in the playoffs, so OTWs mean very little. In fact it only proves this is not a respectable 5 on 5 team.

Additionally, it is NOT exciting hockey to watch - it is sloppy hockey to watch. Anyone who thinks this team is playoff bound, let alone able to make a run is pretty delusional.

This team should not entertain any thoughts of "squeaking into the playoffs". They are not deep enough, they aren't adding any top NHL talent, and their young prospects aren't suddenly going to morph into top tier talent in season.

8 and 20 are train wrecks, and the bottom six is offensively impotent. The PP and PK are terrible.

Don't ruin chances to draft high next summer. Just get a lottery pick next season, keep culling the heard of rookies and focus on who may be keepers.
I Am The Breadman
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Richton Park, IL
Joined: 09.16.2018

Oct 15 @ 1:47 PM ET
There’s a couple of YouTube videos about corporate logos with hidden stuff in them. Don’t have the link but found the videos interesting. Company’s spend a fortune getting the logos designed for their needs and many have the hidden meanings. Amazon has the “smile” connecting A to Z to emphasize their extensive product line.
- Spec41971


Like how potbelly's logo is the Hitchcock stomach, uhh, I mean oven?
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Oct 15 @ 1:47 PM ET
First, Nylander isn't great, he has potential. Potential and a $1.53 gets me a small coffee.

Second, the Leafs aren't going to take a bunch of Hawk retreads, never have beens and never will be's, they'll want at the very least a top end prospect or two or a young roster player in return.

Third, allegedly Nylander wants $8M a season. If the hawks give him that that how will they afford ADB and Schmaltz who may be better players?

The Hawks don't want Nylander for the same reason the Leafs are reluctant to pay him what he's demanding.

- paulr

I would call 2 60+ seasons more than potential. IF, and its a huge if, the Leafs were to move Nylander, it will be for a Top 4 D-man. They sure don't need any centers. Some of the issue could be that Nylander wants to play center but there is no room at the inn for him in that position.
I Am The Breadman
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Richton Park, IL
Joined: 09.16.2018

Oct 15 @ 1:48 PM ET
I like your analogy better than mine!
- Spec41971


Thanks, haha.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Oct 15 @ 1:49 PM ET
No gimmick hockey in the playoffs, so OTWs mean very little. In fact it only proves this is not a respectable 5 on 5 team.

Additionally, it is NOT exciting hockey to watch - it is sloppy hockey to watch. Anyone who thinks this team is playoff bound, let alone able to make a run is pretty delusional.

This team should not entertain any thoughts of "squeaking into the playoffs". They are not deep enough, they aren't adding any top NHL talent, and their young prospects aren't suddenly going to morph into top tier talent in season.

8 and 20 are train wrecks, and the bottom six is offensively impotent. The PP and PK are terrible.

Don't ruin chances to draft high next summer. Just get a lottery pick next season, keep culling the heard of rookies and focus on who may be keepers.

- Return of the Roar


hmm. You might want to check the numbers on that.
Return of the Roar
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Solidly grounded in reality, IL
Joined: 07.27.2009

Oct 15 @ 1:50 PM ET
hmm. You might want to check the numbers on that.
- Elbows15


The scoreboard numbers are da only ones dat count my friend.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Oct 15 @ 1:53 PM ET
Nylander wants $8M per because his agent compares his numbers to Leon Draisatl's.

His agent is Lew Gross, the same guy who shanghaied Stanbo over Saad that resulted in the trade for AA.

The Leafs won't pay him anywhere near $8M and actually should refuse to him anywhere near David Pastrnak's numbers as a comparable.

And most importantly, Babcock has decided that Nylander cannot play center at a top end NHL level so he is a winger going forward.

- RickJ

Nylander's numbers compare quite well with Pasternak's. Thought I read.heard that is who the Leafs are using as a comparable. Be pretty hard to play him at center with Tavares, MAtthews and Kadri. Playing him as 4th line center would be a waste.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Oct 15 @ 1:55 PM ET
The scoreboard numbers are da only ones dat count my friend.
- Return of the Roar


Then the scoreboard shows they have 8 out of a possible 10 points. Maybe 80% of the points isn't good in your world. IDK.

It also shows the Hawks are dominating 5 on 5 scoring but you keep doing you.
sofaking3
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 06.10.2016

Oct 15 @ 1:56 PM ET
I wonder if Saad has been playing hurt and finally now they are shutting him down for a bit. Kinda like Toews last couple years with nagging injuries. Either way some time off for Saad better reengage or re-energize him.
Return of the Roar
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Solidly grounded in reality, IL
Joined: 07.27.2009

Oct 15 @ 1:57 PM ET
Then the scoreboard shows they have 8 out of a possible 10 points. Maybe 80% of the points isn't good in your world. IDK.

It also shows the Hawks are dominating 5 on 5 scoring but you keep doing you.

- Elbows15


Gimmick points.
breadbag
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 11.30.2015

Oct 15 @ 1:59 PM ET
I wonder if Saad has been playing hurt and finally now they are shutting him down for a bit. Kinda like Toews last couple years with nagging injuries. Either way some time off for Saad better reengage or re-energize him.
- sofaking3


I could be wrong, but I think if that were the case, he probably wouldn't be at practice. I mean, I think this is a "get your @$$ in gear" move. I just think if it was a nagging injury, he'd be resting it.
RickJ
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burlington, ON
Joined: 01.12.2010

Oct 15 @ 1:59 PM ET
Nylander's numbers compare quite well with Pasternak's. Thought I read.heard that is who the Leafs are using as a comparable. Be pretty hard to play him at center with Tavares, MAtthews and Kadri. Playing him as 4th line center would be a waste.
- Elbows15

Do you think Nylander's numbers have anything to do with Auston Matthews - I sure do.

The Leafs will pay him somewhere near Pastrnak provided he's in for a 6-8 year term. But he wants $8M for that duration.

And the Leafs have a looming cap problem - Matthews is going to get $12M minimum, Marner will get $9-$10M and Tavares is already in at $11M so they can't overspend on Nylander.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Oct 15 @ 2:01 PM ET
Nylander's numbers compare quite well with Pasternak's. Thought I read.heard that is who the Leafs are using as a comparable. Be pretty hard to play him at center with Tavares, MAtthews and Kadri. Playing him as 4th line center would be a waste.
- Elbows15


He would look great opposite Kane, but at $8 mill, no thanks, but for 5 or 6 and trade Schmaltz that'll work
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Oct 15 @ 2:06 PM ET
Do you think Nylander's numbers have anything to do with Auston Matthews - I sure do.

The Leafs will pay him somewhere near Pastrnak provided he's in for a 6-8 year term. But he wants $8M for that duration.

And the Leafs have a looming cap problem - Matthews is going to get $12M minimum, Marner will get $9-$10M and Tavares is already in at $11M so they can't overspend on Nylander.

- RickJ

That is a false equivalency, Rick. By the same token, Matthews numbers have something to do with Nylander. Nylander is a talented player. Giving Marner 9-10M would be overspending on him. (frank) them, tho.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Oct 15 @ 2:08 PM ET
He would look great opposite Kane, but at $8 mill, no thanks, but for 5 or 6 and trade Schmaltz that'll work
- BetweenTheDots

Why? Do you think Nylander plays any different than Schmaltz? He doesn't.
I Am The Breadman
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Richton Park, IL
Joined: 09.16.2018

Oct 15 @ 2:10 PM ET
Why? Do you think Nylander plays any different than Schmaltz? He doesn't.
- Elbows15


Both are non center-centers, haha
BGKarras
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Itasca, IL
Joined: 06.19.2012

Oct 15 @ 2:11 PM ET
Saad keeps climbing down the ladder...
- glennjpawlak22

It seems like he fell off from it. It's Saad watching him play like this.
RickJ
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burlington, ON
Joined: 01.12.2010

Oct 15 @ 2:13 PM ET
That is a false equivalency, Rick. By the same token, Matthews numbers have something to do with Nylander. Nylander is a talented player. Giving Marner 9-10M would be overspending on him. (frank) them, tho.
- Elbows15

Not this year they don't, Matthews already has 10 goals and Nylander is sitting on his ass in Sweden in his father's basement feeling sorry for himself like Jonathan Drouin did last year.

Nylander is very talented, its just a question of what he is worth and how the team manages their cap after this year.

I Am The Breadman
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Richton Park, IL
Joined: 09.16.2018

Oct 15 @ 2:16 PM ET
It seems like he fell off from it. It's Saad watching him play like this.
- BGKarras


BG, that's a Saad attempt at humor.
BGKarras
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Itasca, IL
Joined: 06.19.2012

Oct 15 @ 2:19 PM ET
BG, that's a Saad attempt at humor.
- I Am The Breadman

LOL... Sorry couldn't resist. I'll try to do better next time. Hopefully I won't get suspended again.
I Am The Breadman
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Richton Park, IL
Joined: 09.16.2018

Oct 15 @ 2:21 PM ET
LOL... Sorry couldn't resist. I'll try to do better next time. Hopefully I won't get suspended again.
- BGKarras


Wear Saad's white jersey, take the day off, Q's orders haha.

Jesus, how many of you's were suspended?
powerenforcer
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wheeling, IL
Joined: 09.24.2009

Oct 15 @ 2:22 PM ET
Not this year they don't, Matthews already has 10 goals and Nylander is sitting on his ass in Sweden in his father's basement feeling sorry for himself like Jonathan Drouin did last year.

Nylander is very talented, its just a question of what he is worth and how the team manages their cap after this year.

- RickJ


Just watch, there will be some kind of exception to the CBA this summer to help them......
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