dadeadhead
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Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY Joined: 07.16.2006
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RhinoFan
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Location: Visionville Joined: 10.12.2015
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I would rather have them in the A succeeding rather than with the Sabres and in a bottom 6/bottom pairing role. - CoHo_to_B-Lo
If both were getting PP time, I don't think I'd mind personally. |
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CoHo_to_B-Lo
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Location: East Amherst, NY Joined: 02.29.2012
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If both were getting PP time, I don't think I'd mind personally. - RhinoFan
Housley likes his PP to be bottom 5. Would never happen |
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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL Joined: 02.24.2008
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RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Visionville Joined: 10.12.2015
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Housley likes his PP to be bottom 5. Would never happen - CoHo_to_B-Lo
Team has looked better.
Still think Housley isn't ready. Never was or will be either. PP deployment is one indicator. |
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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: buffalo, NY Joined: 05.21.2007
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Right. You are saying he’s eventually going to be a cap dump for us.
Fitz is saying he was a cap dump for St. Louis, which isn’t true.
You pay other teams to take on a cap dump. Berglund would have been scooped up by numerous teams if he was available before the O’Reilly trade - sbroads24
Whatever u wanna call it
They wanted him & Sobatka gone
Sobatka isn’t a huge deal, bc he’s only here for 1 more year after this
Berglund has 3 more years left after this
If u don’t think that’s a contract they wanted gone... then you’re blind
Call it what u want...
but we are gonna want him gone soon too
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SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres |
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Joined: 02.05.2014
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but neither are tom wilson good - homiedclown
No way. Nothing says protection for star players then intentionally hurting other teams star players. |
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sbroads24
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Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY Joined: 02.12.2012
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Whatever u wanna call it
They wanted him & Sobatka gone
Sobatka isn’t a huge deal, bc he’s only here for 1 more year after this
Berglund has 3 more years left after this
If u don’t think that’s a contract they wanted gone... then you’re blind
Call it what u want...
but we are gonna want him gone soon too - jdfitz77
This is a fact? I never once heard Berglund floating around as being available before the trade.
There’s a difference between St. Louis fans telling you they wanted him gone and St. Louis management actually pushing to trade him.
A “cap dump” is trading someone solely for cap reasons, and literally paying the other team to take on the salary.
Berglund was included to make the money work. Giant difference |
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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: buffalo, NY Joined: 05.21.2007
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You are right.
It does fell like that again...and I was excited back then to watch these prospects develop properly and see them build a solid team through those prospects.
Oh well, hopefully we get to see that this time versus trying to rush it.
I am pretty high on Samuelsson too, and Davidsson seems to just keep getting better and better, so hopefully that keeps the heat on the new guys when they join the team.
Patience is going to be key this year - IonSabres
Good luck with this crowd |
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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: buffalo, NY Joined: 05.21.2007
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This is a fact? I never once heard Berglund floating around as being available before the trade.
There’s a difference between St. Louis fans telling you they wanted him gone and St. Louis management actually pushing to trade him.
A “cap dump” is trading someone solely for cap reasons, and literally paying the other team to take on the salary.
Berglund was included to make the money work. Giant difference - sbroads24
Fine. Don’t call it a Cap Dump if u wanna get into semantics
It’s a bad contract bc he has an NTC,
and it lasts for 3 more years after this
Are u trying to say we should want the “speedy” Berglund for that long?
Bc i sure don’t |
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SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres |
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Joined: 02.05.2014
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Whatever u wanna call it
They wanted him & Sobatka gone
Sobatka isn’t a huge deal, bc he’s only here for 1 more year after this
Berglund has 3 more years left after this
If u don’t think that’s a contract they wanted gone... then you’re blind
Call it what u want...
but we are gonna want him gone soon too - jdfitz77
By the end of the contract sure. I'm not gonna roast the guy after 6 games played. But he hasn't looked good. Every team has a contract that raises an eyebrow or two. Problem is the Sabres have had about 6 of those at any one given time over the past 6ish years. Berglund at 3.85 isn't going to sink the Sabres at the end with the cap most likely rising (And maybe a compliance buyout/Seattle) |
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Sabresfan-365
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Location: Lockport, NY Joined: 12.09.2012
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Right. You are saying he’s eventually going to be a cap dump for us.
Fitz is saying he was a cap dump for St. Louis, which isn’t true.
You pay other teams to take on a cap dump. Berglund would have been scooped up by numerous teams if he was available before the O’Reilly trade - sbroads24
I get your point, but the counter argument here could be that they did. Remember, they picked up ROR's big ass bonus. It's likely that had this gone past the bonus payment deadline, the deal would be sans berglund and likely one of thompson/1st rounder |
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dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY Joined: 07.16.2006
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homiedclown
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Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL Joined: 02.24.2008
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dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY Joined: 07.16.2006
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Fine. Don’t call it a Cap Dump if u wanna get into semantics
It’s a bad contract bc he has an NTC,
and it lasts for 3 more years after this
Are u trying to say we should want the “speedy” Berglund for that long?
Bc i sure don’t - jdfitz77
NMC/NTC become null and void when a player agrees to waive it for a trade.
It’s up to the acquiring team whether or not to carry on with those stipulations for the remainder of the deal. |
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dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY Joined: 07.16.2006
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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL Joined: 02.24.2008
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Like chicken finger sub mad. - dadeadhead
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jochfr
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Nashville , TN Joined: 07.11.2009
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New blog you fat hookers. |
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SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres |
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Joined: 02.05.2014
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I get your point, but the counter argument here could be that they did. Remember, they picked up ROR's big ass bonus. It's likely that had this gone past the bonus payment deadline, the deal would be sans berglund and likely one of thompson/1st rounder - Sabresfan-365
I don't think that's how it would have gone done. You're saying the Sabres pay the 7.5M, don't get Berglund nor Thompson/1st? Seems like the Sabres would have gotten more (albeit, how much and what IDK) had they paid the bonus. The Blues are up against the cap I believe, so they had to make the cap work.
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Sabresfan-365
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Location: Lockport, NY Joined: 12.09.2012
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I don't think that's how it would have gone done. You're saying the Sabres pay the 7.5M, don't get Berglund nor Thompson/1st? Seems like the Sabres would have gotten more (albeit, how much and what IDK) had they paid the bonus. The Blues are up against the cap I believe, so they had to make the cap work. - SDSabre
I think it would've turned into no berglund and the first turning into some conditional 2nd rounder.
I dont buy that the price would go up because there were really only 2 suitors for him (MTL and STL). Once montreal bowed out Botts lost a ton of leverage. I think they wanted at least a good prospect and first and St louis wanted Berglunds cap hit off the books so they said they'd give up the first+thompson and pay the bonus as long as the sabres could take both Berglund and Sobotka.
If it goes to august the deal is probably Sobotka, Thompson, two 2nd rounders. Its not as much about his value as much as it is that STL could wait it out to get their price. |
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Boss34
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Location: BUFFALO , NY Joined: 12.03.2015
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I must be missing something. Reinhart got more. - SDSabre
Sorry, I thought it was per year, not for 3 years
Sam
6gp
0 goals
3 assists
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Any other " core" goal scoring leaders from last year, not scored yet for their team?
Asking for a friend
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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: buffalo, NY Joined: 05.21.2007
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By the end of the contract sure. I'm not gonna roast the guy after 6 games played. But he hasn't looked good. Every team has a contract that raises an eyebrow or two. Problem is the Sabres have had about 6 of those at any one given time over the past 6ish years. Berglund at 3.85 isn't going to sink the Sabres at the end with the cap most likely rising (And maybe a compliance buyout/Seattle) - SDSabre
This issue i have is that we’ve been trying to get rid of these contracts...
we shouldn’t have been taking another one on |
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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: buffalo, NY Joined: 05.21.2007
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NMC/NTC become null and void when a player agrees to waive it for a trade.
It’s up to the acquiring team whether or not to carry on with those stipulations for the remainder of the deal. - dadeadhead
They don’t necessarily
Idk the particulars of this deal,
but Berglund very well could’ve said he’d only waive to come to Buffalo if the Sabres will agree to honor the NTC after he’s here
Cap Friendly still has him listed with one
I haven’t seen anything else that says 1 way or the other |
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Boss34
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Location: BUFFALO , NY Joined: 12.03.2015
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This issue i have is that we’ve been trying to get rid of these contracts...
we shouldn’t have been taking another one on - jdfitz77
We had to get rid of ror.
It just wasn't working here.
How many real trade partners were actually out there?
Had to take back $.
Berglund and sobotka are both salary dumps.
Neither is good |
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Da_Cashman
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: London, ON Joined: 04.18.2011
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last night i was drinking coffee and playing video games to make it to 10:30 then i realized the game was tonight - robz228
You didn’t miss anything. I predict another blowout |
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