You know for a “fact”? Please. So your argument is this - if there was a problem it would’ve been addressed by now. Now that’s entertainment and pretzel logic. So you are saying all poor relationships get addressed early on in a timely fashion. Not in the real world they don’t. Many posters on here agree Q is especially harsh on players Bowman has obtained. You seem to be unable to accept that Q’s treatment of players like Daley and Murphy points to a disconnect. I suppose when Q angrily stormed out of the hockey meeting when he found out Hammer was traded is somehow evidence for you that Bowman and Q are on the same page.
- Z3Hawk

So, you were there and knew why Quenneville left. Oh wait, I was there. My hockey guy said he had somewhere to be that afternoon, and was excused to go - and it was known weeks in advance. And Quenneville was there on Saturday, and there were no issues at all. He was not happy about Hjalmarsson being traded, but understood why it was done. And he has no issues with Murphy - except for some bad habits taught in Arizona - and they are working on correcting it. So keep believing your made up fantasies - they are always good for a laugh or two!!!

You know for a “fact”? Please. So your argument is this - if there was a problem it would’ve been addressed by now. Now that’s entertainment and pretzel logic. So you are saying all poor relationships get addressed early on in a timely fashion. Not in the real world they don’t. Many posters on here agree Q is especially harsh on players Bowman has obtained. You seem to be unable to accept that Q’s treatment of players like Daley and Murphy points to a disconnect. I suppose when Q angrily stormed out of the hockey meeting when he found out Hammer was traded is somehow evidence for you that Bowman and Q are on the same page.
- Z3Hawk

And yes, if there were such a disconnect between coach and G.M. - to the point that said coach was trying to show up his G.M. with who he plays, then there would definitely had been a change made. You can say what you will about McDonough, but he is one person that would not let it continue. So please, get over yourself with your little water cooler gossip. It's fantasy - and nothing more.

The DOG penalty for putting the puck directly out of play from the o-zone is frustrating.

The embellishment call - when coupled with a simultaneous penalty on the opponent - is just stupid.

Get rid of it.

(Tonite called on a Panther when a Cap got an interference penalty.)
- StLBravesFan

agree....if you think he embellished = no call or initial call stands...

how a guy says nothing about whether an infraction occurred...

Oooooooooo, this is interesting

Scott Powers‏Verified account @ByScottPowers · 2m2 minutes ago

Blackhawks practice lineup
DeBrincat-Toews-Kahun
Schmaltz-Anisimov-Kane
Kunitz-Kampf-Saad
Hayden-Kruger-Martinsen
Fortin out of top 4

Keith-Jokiharju
Gustafsson-Seabrook
Davidson-Rutta
Manning-Forsling

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Scott Powers‏Verified account @ByScottPowers · 1m1 minute ago

Fortin is rotating with Martinsen on the fourth line
- Chunk

Not too shocking. Seemed like Schmaltz was destined to play some wing this season, honestly I don't mind it. AA has been playing better this season and Schmaltz can be effective at both positions. They are spreading out the slow guys to lines 2-3-4 rather than have them all on line 3, which should help. Davidson getting a chance, now he just has to run with it. He should be motivated to keep that spot.

And yes, if there were such a disconnect between coach and G.M. - to the point that said coach was trying to show up his G.M. with who he plays, then there would definitely had been a change made. You can say what you will about McDonough, but he is one person that would not let it continue. So please, get over yourself with your little water cooler gossip. It's fantasy - and nothing more.
- dahawks8819

I disagree with this statement. I could see him trying to hide this problem, and still market the team as if it was one big happy family. Rocky is too loyal to McD, and I believe that is the root of the issues now between the front office - he has given McD too much power.

So, you were there and knew why Quenneville left. Oh wait, I was there. My hockey guy said he had somewhere to be that afternoon, and was excused to go - and it was known weeks in advance. And Quenneville was there on Saturday, and there were no issues at all. He was not happy about Hjalmarsson being traded, but understood why it was done. And he has no issues with Murphy - except for some bad habits taught in Arizona - and they are working on correcting it. So keep believing your made up fantasies - they are always good for a laugh or two!!!
- dahawks8819

Legit question, what do you mean by "Some bad habits taught in Arizona?" That team that Arizona had on the ice was not bad defensively. We weren't good offensively, but they weren't bad either. I know some changes/additions happened, and hammer makes everything better, not his first year though. Was there some type of change or different system with Murphy or something different now without him? Arizona might be goal deficient, not against us, but defense isn't bad, especially with a good goaltender behind them.

I think Highmore can be more effective than Fortin, Kunitz and Hayden. Hope he’s next to get a look

I think Highmore can be more effective than Fortin, Kunitz and Hayden. Hope he’s next to get a look
- EnzoD

Haha, I think he goes without saying.

So, you were there and knew why Quenneville left. Oh wait, I was there. My hockey guy said he had somewhere to be that afternoon, and was excused to go - and it was known weeks in advance. And Quenneville was there on Saturday, and there were no issues at all. He was not happy about Hjalmarsson being traded, but understood why it was done. And he has no issues with Murphy - except for some bad habits taught in Arizona - and they are working on correcting it. So keep believing your made up fantasies - they are always good for a laugh or two!!!
- dahawks8819

You were there ,or your hockey guy was there . Ok I can't argue with a real insider with a hockey guy .. Who was there or was it you that was there .I guess Q had a note from his mother

Ice Hogs were down 3-0 now they’re going into OT (3-3).

Not too shocking. Seemed like Schmaltz was destined to play some wing this season, honestly I don't mind it. AA has been playing better this season and Schmaltz can be effective at both positions. They are spreading out the slow guys to lines 2-3-4 rather than have them all on line 3, which should help. Davidson getting a chance, now he just has to run with it. He should be motivated to keep that spot.
- breadbag

I wonder if they'll have both AA and Schmaltz take face-offs, depending on whose strong side it's on. It could help.

Legit question, what do you mean by "Some bad habits taught in Arizona?" That team that Arizona had on the ice was not bad defensively. We weren't good offensively, but they weren't bad either. I know some changes/additions happened, and hammer makes everything better, not his first year though. Was there some type of change or different system with Murphy or something different now without him? Arizona might be goal deficient, not against us, but defense isn't bad, especially with a good goaltender behind them.
- I Am The Breadman

When Murphy was there - they had a different coach and different system.

You were there ,or your hockey guy was there . Ok I can't argue with a real insider with a hockey guy .. Who was there or was it you that was there .I guess Q had a note from his mother
- oldduffman

For the record genius - it was my hockey guy that told me Panarin was getting dealt two days before it happened - and John Jaeckel will confirm that to you. And no - it was not John that told me.

I was at the draft - sitting second row both days. That piece of info cost me a few beers on Saturday - and were well worth it.

I was sitting about 15 feet from the Hawks table. Quenneville was there Saturday. There was no friction to be seen. He is just not that good of an actor.

And I was told he had a family engagement on Friday - and his bosses had no problem with him leaving. Coaches don't do much on draft day - except hob nob with old friends.

When has Fortin ever shown he can "find the net"?
- PatShart

He had produced in junior hockey. You are expecting Fortin to debut and be a star immediately, eh? That is too good too soon, unrealistic usually for rookies start off that way. You do know that confidence breeds and accomplishment when given ample opportunity.

So whom else.would you prefer instead of Fortin in that spot? Would your choice have Fortin speed, a good all around game. Fortin is smallish weight wise for a proto typical power forward. Yet is hungry and has good intentions (going to net front presence) correct. So give him another ten gp. Mot of all the team needs to utilize his speed.

You may be right about him but if Q winds up liking this kid.... the kid will have a fair opportunity.

Legit question, what do you mean by "Some bad habits taught in Arizona?" That team that Arizona had on the ice was not bad defensively. We weren't good offensively, but they weren't bad either. I know some changes/additions happened, and hammer makes everything better, not his first year though. Was there some type of change or different system with Murphy or something different now without him? Arizona might be goal deficient, not against us, but defense isn't bad, especially with a good goaltender behind them.
- I Am The Breadman

From Murphy's debut in Chicago throughout the season we witnessed some bad habits ostensibly carti d over from Phoenix. This season marks a new edition of the Arizona team. They will not continue to be as good, defensively, as they were last night. Wrmade it far to easy for them. And if you are not physical against them, then their mobile defense crew and forwards just closed off passing lanes.

I think Westworld is the best right now, but I totally agree with preacher being underrated. I liked it a lot. I'll try to catch season 2 sone way sone how. Netflix? Hulu? Do you know?
- I Am The Breadman

Legit question, what do you mean by "Some bad habits taught in Arizona?" That team that Arizona had on the ice was not bad defensively. We weren't good offensively, but they weren't bad either. I know some changes/additions happened, and hammer makes everything better, not his first year though. Was there some type of change or different system with Murphy or something different now without him? Arizona might be goal deficient, not against us, but defense isn't bad, especially with a good goaltender behind them.
- I Am The Breadman

From Murphy's debut in Chicago throughout the season we witnessed some bad habits ostensibly carried over from Phoenix. This season marks a new edition of the Arizona team. They will not continue to be as good, defensively, as they were last night. We made it far to easy for them. And if you are not physical against them, then their mobile defense crew and forwards just closed off passing lanes.

Ice Hogs were down 3-0 now they’re going into OT (3-3).
- DarthKane

Taking after their parent club. Like hawk-ther, like hog.

From Murphy's debut in Chicago throughout the season we witnessed some bad habits ostensibly carti d over from Phoenix. This season marks a new edition of the Arizona team. They will not continue to be as good, defensively, as they were last night. Wrmade it far to easy for them. And if you are not physical against them, then their mobile defense crew and forwards just closed off passing lanes.
- jhawk59

Well that might not be good for our new wave of mobile defense crew ...
At least we have some stay at home defenders, and a couple nice checking forwards waiting in the wings/still need to be signed.

- HawkintheD

Thank you, haha. With a picture like that, then it is safe to say you have questioned the nature of your reality.

Westworld has fun with names, not sure if you knew this. The 2 guys you see, William (means protector) and El Lazo (means noose.)

When Murphy was there - they had a different coach and different system.
- dahawks8819

Thank you.

He had produced in junior hockey. You are expecting Fortin to debut and be a star immediately, eh? That is too good too soon, unrealistic usually for rookies start off that way. You do know that confidence breeds and accomplishment when given ample opportunity.

So whom else.would you prefer instead of Fortin in that spot? Would your choice have Fortin speed, a good all around game. Fortin is smallish weight wise for a proto typical power forward. Yet is hungry and has nice parts tobeing correct, but for another ten gp or so his game which we need to utilize. You may wind up give the kid a fair opportunity. Q appears to.like him; I bet he keeps playing no matter whether the Q blender is operating later this season.
- jhawk59

Fortin was NOT a scorer in the Q in Canada. That is why he went undrafted.

So, you were there and knew why Quenneville left. Oh wait, I was there. My hockey guy said he had somewhere to be that afternoon, and was excused to go - and it was known weeks in advance. And Quenneville was there on Saturday, and there were no issues at all. He was not happy about Hjalmarsson being traded, but understood why it was done. And he has no issues with Murphy - except for some bad habits taught in Arizona - and they are working on correcting it. So keep believing your made up fantasies - they are always good for a laugh or two!!!
- dahawks8819

Your “hockey guy”? Are you kidding? So ALL the other “hockey guys” report the situation differently but YOUR “hockey guy” knows differently. “No issues with Murphy”? Again are you kidding? Where do you meet your “hockey guy”? I’m guessing at the McDonald’s you work at when you are on your coffee break. Do buy him a Big Mac and he tells you all his hockey insider news? Grow up.

Your “hockey guy”? Are you kidding? So ALL the other “hockey guys” report the situation differently but YOUR “hockey guy” knows differently. “No issues with Murphy”? Again are you kidding? Where do you meet your “hockey guy”? I’m guessing at the McDonald’s you work at when you are on your coffee break. Do buy him a Big Mac and he tells you all his hockey insider news? Grow up.
- Z3Hawk

Coming from the loser that works as a janitor - you really have cut me to the quick!!!



So genius, if the people I know didn't tell me about them moving Panarin, how did I know it was coming days before it did??

And I know quite a few people - both in and out of the organization. But your little fantasy world is more accurate than the things I learn - from people actually around the team and front office.

Whatever helps you sleep better.

And to the other fanboys here - get over your Panarin love. He is not coming back.

If he makes it to free agency - the Hawks will not be calling his agent. All bridges here are burned. And the team that does sign him will be regretting it.......

For the record genius - it was my hockey guy that told me Panarin was getting dealt two days before it happened - and John Jaeckel will confirm that to you. And no - it was not John that told me.

I was at the draft - sitting second row both days. That piece of info cost me a few beers on Saturday - and were well worth it.

I was sitting about 15 feet from the Hawks table. Quenneville was there Saturday. There was no friction to be seen. He is just not that good of an actor.

And I was told he had a family engagement on Friday - and his bosses had no problem with him leaving. Coaches don't do much on draft day - except hob nob with old friends.
- dahawks8819

John Jaeckel will confirm? Are you for real? John Jaeckel has never had any real information ever. When Panarin got traded true “hockey insiders” like Elloitte Freidman broke the story as it happened. I know I was following. John Jaeckel broke NOTHING! There was NOTHING! John Jaeckel, your “hockey insider” and you did not know 2 days in advance about Panarin. You never knew anything period until true “hockey insiders” like Freidman broke the story. You are hysterical.