Every NHL player on the FLyers sucks until they dont play for us! Get with the damn program!
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Even Flip.

Absolutely. And if you remove all of the games besides last night, both Tavares and Matthews are pointless so far this season.
- jmatchett383

So what you are saying is they had points in 7/8 of the games, right?

My honest opinion of Dave Hakstol that I’ll never waver on is just how bad a coach he is. After watching the team respond before, during and after having game changers such as Ken Hitchcock and Peter Laviolette, we should all know who will make a difference and who is just drooling into a cup behind the bench. Dave Hakstol is not the guy. I don’t hate Hak like I hate Berube but Hakstol in four seasons hasn’t impacted this team like Lavy or Hitch. Not even close.

Some of you I don’t think are upset enough. This isn’t a bubble team anymore. Climbing uphill, again, in October, should be unacceptable.

I'd give it a whirl.
- Scoob

I'll try any food once, and usually twice to make sure. I love eating new "weird" food

You're the worst

On the other hand, someone at work made a Puerto Rican dish: sliced cooking bananas, onions, garlic, butter, and chicken gizzard.

Onions were cooked, the gizzard was cubed then browned, then mixed with everything, had the consistency of an olive almost. It was very interesting.

6.5/10, would eat again, won't beg her to make it again
- Giroux_Is_God

Sounds a little like Mufungo

My honest opinion of Dave Hakstol that I’ll never waver on is just how bad a coach he is. After watching the team respond before, during and after having game changers such as Ken Hitchcock and Peter Laviolette, we should all know who will make a difference and who is just drooling into a cup behind the bench. Dave Hakstol is not the guy. I don’t hate Hak like I hate Berube but Hakstol in four seasons hasn’t impacted this team like Lavy or Hitch. Not even close.

Some of you I don’t think are upset enough. This isn’t a bubble team anymore. Climbing uphill, again, in October, should be unacceptable.
- SuperSchennBros

Isn't every team climbing uphill in the first month of the season?

Isn't every team climbing uphill in the first month of the season?
- ajw12

Some more than others though. And this one isn't putting themselves in a good place to be in a good place at American Thanksgiving which is a key point in the season when you the standings in most seasons for whether or not the team will make the playoffs. That date can be pointed to as the first measure of a teams playoff hopes.

Didn't really pay attention to much chatter today in the comments but I'd like to say one thing about Provy, on the Giroux turnover if Provy is playing with confidence he gets that puck. Giroux knew he could get there but Provorov didn't think he could, this guy needs to do some deep digging because his play has been piss poor. As crazy as it sounds he might need a game in the press box.

Some more than others though. And this one isn't putting themselves in a good place to be in a good place at American Thanksgiving which is a key point in the season when you the standings in most seasons for whether or not the team will make the playoffs. That date can be pointed to as the first measure of a teams playoff hopes.
- dragonoffrost

My point is 29 of the 31 teams are within 3 points of a playoff position. It's a little early to be all "trade core members!; fire the coach!" For (frank)'s sake we're not even finished the first month of the season. Also weren't the Flyers in last place around Christmas last season?

I'll try any food once, and usually twice to make sure. I love eating new "weird" food
- Giroux_Is_God

I don't have a completely open mind - brains, eyes, goat head stuff, etc., are non-starters. But will try a lot of "weird" stuff. I've had bugs and while it gave me the willies at the time, taste wise it wasn't bad and didn't make me sick so that was good. lol

Some more than others though. And this one isn't putting themselves in a good place to be in a good place at American Thanksgiving which is a key point in the season when you the standings in most seasons for whether or not the team will make the playoffs. That date can be pointed to as the first measure of a teams playoff hopes.
- dragonoffrost

Fact: the Flyers were not in a playoff position at Thanksgiving last year. That said, not being in one at that time usually means you're golfing in mid-April.

My point is 29 of the 31 teams are within 3 points of a playoff position. It's a little early to be all "trade core members!; fire the coach!" For (frank)'s sake we're not even finished the first month of the season. Also weren't the Flyers in last place around Christmas last season?
- ajw12

You need to be more upset. It helps.

So what you are saying is they had points in 7/8 of the games, right?
- missingmike

Yes, but I'm going to arbitrarily remove those games.

Fact: the Flyers were not in a playoff position at Thanksgiving last year. That said, not being in one at that time usually means you're golfing in mid-April.
- Scoob

I wouldn't say that, what you're saying has the top teams in the division inlcuded. There is always flip flopping in the lower seeding.

You're the worst

On the other hand, someone at work made a Puerto Rican dish: sliced cooking bananas, onions, garlic, butter, and chicken gizzard.

Onions were cooked, the gizzard was cubed then browned, then mixed with everything, had the consistency of an olive almost. It was very interesting.

6.5/10, would eat again, won't beg her to make it again
- Giroux_Is_God

Sounds good to me. What'd she do to get gizzard tender? Every chicken gizzard I ever had was tough. You sure it wasn't liver or heart or something softer like that?

I wouldn't say that, what you're saying has the top teams in the division inlcuded. There is always flip flopping in the lower seeding.
- ClaudeFather

I stand my my comment

My point is 29 of the 31 teams are within 3 points of a playoff position. It's a little early to be all "trade core members!; fire the coach!" For (frank)'s sake we're not even finished the first month of the season. Also weren't the Flyers in last place around Christmas last season?
- ajw12

You're all like




You need to be more like

I stand my my comment
- Scoob

Please stand, sit, or kneel for the national anthem

You need to be more upset. It helps.
- Scoob

You're absolutely correct. I apologize Scoob. I'll be sure to start a "Fire Hakstol" chant tomorrow after the Devils score the first goal and he doesn't make a goalie switch or call a timeout right away!

Fact: the Flyers were not in a playoff position at Thanksgiving last year. That said, not being in one at that time usually means you're golfing in mid-April.
- Scoob

I know the weren't last year which is why I'm scared if they try that crap again. The odds are against doing it in back to back seasons.

The reason they need to do that is because they don't freaking help when the puck goes the other way. Don't give the forwards a pass for the goals against this team is letting up. They are culpable also.
- dragonoffrost

I'm not but if we're just talking offense, they have their work cut out for them.

You're right. Defense is a team effort.

Because I love you all, you're welcome.



It's their FIRST (frank)ING SHOW. Keep that in mind.

Yes, but I'm going to arbitrarily remove those games.
- jmatchett383

Realistically it's too early in the season to jump to any conclusion on performance.

But for the sake of the argument, I did not remove the games- his points are his points. I just wanted to illuminate inconsistencies in V's scoring so far this season. I am trained to think in distributions/ standard deviations/ outliers etc. Maybe I should not do it here.

Because I love you all, you're welcome.


It's their FIRST (frank)ING SHOW. Keep that in mind.
- jmatchett383

37:08: "These guys any good?" LOL

So let me guess. Major trades, scapegoating, and fire the coach! Amirite?
- MJL

wrong we should keep doing the same thing over and over until it works because that's how you win right?