Exactly! The core of this team has been here since Hak started. It’s hard to understand that so many guys don’t know what their job defensively is and where they are supposed to be.
Seems like their is not much accountability and players don’t want to do what it takes to play defense. Unless your a rookie or young player guys aren’t scratched or benched during games.

Poopty goaltending aside the quality of dangerous scoring chances is appalling.
- bird_dog_pa

Who, exactly, is this core? Giroux, Voracek, Simmonds, Couturier? It doesnt look to me like these guys are the problem. For the most part they are performing. They did their jobs last year too (even an injured Simmonds put up points). To me the problem is Hextal has not made the right moves to improve the team. The defense needed to improve. MacDonald and Gudas just aren't good enough. They've needed a veteran leader since Timonen was traded. The PK has been bad for years. How about bringing in players to improve it? And goaltending?!? What a mess. They have a logjam of goalies and apparently none of them are good enough. Maybe all Hextal's draft picks will work out. Maybe in two or three years they'll have a #1 goalie? I don't know. I'm tired of waiting and I'm having a real hard time watching the product he's putting on the ice right now.

Keenan had all of the Rangers hating his guts up to the Stanley Cup parade. Hell, didn't he bench Gretzky and Hull once?
- RustyPipes

Keenan would bench anyone at any time. In his time with the Flyers, I think Mark Howe, and deservedly so, may have been the only player to have never suffered the wrath of Mike.

Keenan would bench anyone at any time. In his time with the Flyers, I think Mark Howe, and deservedly so, may have been the only player to have never suffered the wrath of Mike.
- BiggE

Keenan tried to bench Howe once. However, Howe was able to easily fend off Mike and lead an odd-man rush the other way.

Who, exactly, is this core? Giroux, Voracek, Simmonds, Couturier? It doesnt look to me like these guys are the problem. For the most part they are performing. They did their jobs last year too (even an injured Simmonds put up points). To me the problem is Hextal has not made the right moves to improve the team. The defense needed to improve. MacDonald and Gudas just aren't good enough. They've needed a veteran leader since Timonen was traded. The PK has been bad for years. How about bringing in players to improve it? And goaltending?!? What a mess. They have a logjam of goalies and apparently none of them are good enough. Maybe all Hextal's draft picks will work out. Maybe in two or three years they'll have a #1 goalie? I don't know. I'm tired of waiting and I'm having a real hard time watching the product he's putting on the ice right now.
- Dkos

Don't know if you have seen any games this year, but Gudas has been one of the better Dmen if not the best Dman so far this season. If Hak does anything on the D, he shouldn't break up the Gudas - Sanheim paring. They have the right blend of offense and D responsibility so far.

Keenan tried to bench Howe once. However, Howe was able to easily fend off Mike and lead an odd-man rush the other way.
- jmatchett383

If they could land Howard for that deal, I'd make the trade. Voracek is a tough guy to move, because when he's playing well he is a legit first line RW and the only one they have. However, if you can make a hockey trade where the deal brings back a top pair Dman, than I'd be fine with it. Perhaps you package Jake with a current Dman for a significantly better Dman and a solid two way winger. Again, mainly due to the cap, these deals are hard to make.

Moving Simmonds would be easier, but I think you still need to wait until at least mid season and hope to get multiple teams interested which will likely lead to someone seriously overpaying for him.
- BiggE

Howard would be interesting but I cant see Detroit moving him for minimum value until closer to the TDL.

Flyers will have to be in a similiar situation at the TDL before I consider moving Simmonds and Voracek. One things about Simmonds he shouldnt be counted on to carry a line. He needs to be complementing better players.

Howard would be interesting but I cant see Detroit moving him for minimum value until closer to the TDL.

Flyers will have to be in a similiar situation at the TDL before I consider moving Simmonds and Voracek. One things about Simmonds he shouldnt be counted on to carry a line. He needs to be complementing better players.
- Baxter27

The only goalie I would be interested in bringing in...and it would take some things to fall in place...would be Corey Crawford. Still think fixing what is in front of the goalies is the real issue right now

Who, exactly, is this core? Giroux, Voracek, Simmonds, Couturier? It doesnt look to me like these guys are the problem. For the most part they are performing. They did their jobs last year too (even an injured Simmonds put up points). To me the problem is Hextal has not made the right moves to improve the team. The defense needed to improve. MacDonald and Gudas just aren't good enough. They've needed a veteran leader since Timonen was traded. The PK has been bad for years. How about bringing in players to improve it? And goaltending?!? What a mess. They have a logjam of goalies and apparently none of them are good enough. Maybe all Hextal's draft picks will work out. Maybe in two or three years they'll have a #1 goalie? I don't know. I'm tired of waiting and I'm having a real hard time watching the product he's putting on the ice right now.
- Dkos

The biggest problem with the core is that perhaps the most important part of it(Provorov) is struggling to find his game right now. It looks to he coming but hes not up to his standards.

ttt

Not sure which is worse, the goaltending or the defense?
- Buzzo

As bad as goaltending has been, I think defense has been worse - the defense corps specifically, and team defense generally.

The only goalie I would be interested in bringing in...and it would take some things to fall in place...would be Corey Crawford. Still think fixing what is in front of the goalies is the real issue right now
- YuenglingJagr

Id be interested but his injuries over the last year concern me and would limit how much Id invest. Like you said a lot would have to fall into place and Hawks arent in that position yet.

Weal line and Sanheim looked good, tho.

As bad as goaltending has been, I think defense has been worse - the defense corps specifically, and team defense generally.
- Scoob

I think they played well enough to win last night if they had a goalie who could bail them out.

Elliott was sagging vs Florida but Hak shouldve stuck to his guns and started him last night. Pickard is a deer in headlights.

Slow starts falls on the..............?
Lack of Intensity falls on the.................?
Lack of being able to play a full 60 minute game falls on the................?
No young gun being lights out, all just kinda on the brink, falls on the............?

You don't think the players who've already been through 2 GMs and 3 coaches, who haven't won a playoff series in 6 years might be the issue?

Another season with the same issues again and again and I'll be in favor of Hextall moving core members of this team.
- hereticpride

I've been thinking a lot about the core group* in light of the coach bashing this season. Sure, some of them are getting some G&A but I'm not seeing any leadership from them on the ice that is showing the rest of the team how to play. No motivation. No inspiration. Something has to change.

*Giroux, Couturier, Simmonds, Voracek, MacDonald

Id be interested but his injuries over the last year concern me and would limit how much Id invest. Like you said a lot would have to fall into place and Hawks arent in that position yet.
- Baxter27

I would look at defense first. I think a vet guy who can almost take some pressure of your top guys like Provorov and Gostisbehere would be a help. I know we have vets in gudas and MacDonald but someone who can play in your top 4 and probably be on your top pair would be a huge boost and maybe calm some things down.

I wanted Dion Phaneuf last year because I thought he could do that here. Ideally I would like someone to pair with Provorov.

Slow starts falls on the TEAM..............?
Lack of Intensity falls on the TEAM................?
Lack of being able to play a full 60 minute game falls on the TEAM...............?
No young gun being lights out, all just kinda on the brink, falls on the YOUNG GUNS...........?
- Konalover

Bill Meltzer: Wrap: Flyers Own Worst Enemy in 6-3 Loss in Columbus
- bmeltzer

Has anyone here ever seen a Lego movie??

“Everything is Awesome!! Everything is Cool when you play for a team”.

I gotta tell you guys, if Hakstol was gonna make all the right moves and push all the right buttons, he would have done it along time ago. In three games Folin has had one good game. One! He cannot be an every night guy. If Mac is hurt and needs the time to sit out, do it! Folin, press box! Call up Myers. This defense hasn’t been great. The goaltending hasn’t been great. It was nice to see Couturier score but the centers are offering very little in terms of product.

Now, I expect a handful of you to tell me I’m wrong. We’re scoring at a blah blah blah rate, while ignoring glaring weaknesses. We can score, that’s great but I don’t want to win 6-5 games and lose 6-3 games, especially against division rivals.

Enough defending the indefensible!!

Who, exactly, is this core? Giroux, Voracek, Simmonds, Couturier? It doesnt look to me like these guys are the problem. For the most part they are performing. They did their jobs last year too (even an injured Simmonds put up points). To me the problem is Hextal has not made the right moves to improve the team. The defense needed to improve. MacDonald and Gudas just aren't good enough. They've needed a veteran leader since Timonen was traded. The PK has been bad for years. How about bringing in players to improve it? And goaltending?!? What a mess. They have a logjam of goalies and apparently none of them are good enough. Maybe all Hextal's draft picks will work out. Maybe in two or three years they'll have a #1 goalie? I don't know. I'm tired of waiting and I'm having a real hard time watching the product he's putting on the ice right now.
- Dkos

Team defense is garbage. Goaltending has been very poor. Voracek has had more than a few lazy defensive zone games. Giroux has been guilty and Simmonds has had his issues as well.
Folin is not even good as far as 7th defensemen standards go. Manning was better.
It doesn’t help the Provorov hasn’t been playing very good.

you can have bob for a small price
- redsfanhere

I'd drive to Columbus to pick him up.

I'm sorry but talking about the Flyers right now is just too damned depressing, so with Halloween fast approaching, here are my top 10 personal favorite horror films of all time.

Honorable mentions:
The Bride of Frankenstein
Cat People (the original)
An American Werewolf in London
Day of the Dead (Romero's original version)

10. Night of the Living Dead
Romero's classic set the template for all the zombie media of the last half century. The film is gory, chilling and, to audiences back in 1968, absolutely shocking. The scene where the child feeds on her mother is just horrific, in a good way, LOL.

9. Jaws
What's more horrifying than a remorseless, nearly unstoppable, killing machine. This movie was so well done both script wise and in the performances. Plus the score is a classic.

8. Silence of the Lambs
Psychological horror at his finest. You'd think Buffalo Bill would be scary enough, but next to the mastery of evil that is Lector, he's just an amateur. Anthony Hopkins was flat out perfect in this role.

7. Psycho
Hitchcock had audiences wetting their pants when they first saw the shower scene. One of the best portraits of madness ever attempted on film. The final scene in which Norman has fully become "mother" and muses on how he wouldn't even hurt a fly, still sends chills down my spine.

6. Get Out
The most recent film on my list, I loved this flick. The scientific premise may have been hokey, but this film, both from a writing and acting viewpoint, is extremely well done and it sucks you in right from the opening scene.

5. Frankenstein (1933)
Boris Karloff makes this movie special. The emotion conveyed by his expressions alone are just a work of art. It may look cheesy today, but this is a true horror classic that should not be missed.

4. The Exorcist
This movie legitimately terrified audiences when it was released in the mid 70s. On many levels it's a parent's worst nightmare: your child is suffering unimaginable horrors and you are powerless to help. The fact that an innocent child is the victim is what makes this so terrifying and powerful.

3. Alien (1978)
Don't let the title fool you, this is not a sci-fi film by any stretch of the imagination, it's pure horror. Our cast is basically trapped in a locked room with a unrepentant killing machine. Don't lie, the first time you saw that creature burrow through that poor saps stomach, you jumped!

2. Halloween (the original 78 film)
This movie set the template for every slasher film that followed, and its still, by far, the best. Michael Myers is a soulless demon from hell and he's seemingly impossible to stop. The films moves along at a great, brisk pace and the use of the killer's POV in many of the shots is fantastic. Watching this movie at Halloween is a tradition at Casa BiggE

1. Rosemary's Baby
This film is simply a horror masterpiece. The cast is amazing, as is the writing. The entire gothic aura from filming at the Dakota in NYC is the perfect setting for the film as well. The premise is terrifying: a young woman is manipulated by a bunch of satanists who, on the outside, seem like a nice bunch of quirky, but relatively normal people. Her own husband sells her out to the group in return for fame and fortune and the poor girl is raped and impregnated by the Devil. I love everything about this film, as it's not just my favorite horror film, but one of my favorite films of all time.

Don't know if you have seen any games this year, but Gudas has been one of the better Dmen if not the best Dman so far this season. If Hak does anything on the D, he shouldn't break up the Gudas - Sanheim paring. They have the right blend of offense and D responsibility so far.
- RustyPipes

I've seen them all. I guess I'm wrong...Gudas is about as good as it gets in the NHL

Has anyone here ever seen a Lego movie??

“Everything is Awesome!! Everything is Cool when you play for a team”.

I gotta tell you guys, if Hakstol was gonna make all the right moves and push all the right buttons, he would have done it along time ago. In three games Folin has had one good game. One! He cannot be an every night guy. If Mac is hurt and needs the time to sit out, do it! Folin, press box! Call up Myers. This defense hasn’t been great. The goaltending hasn’t been great. It was nice to see Couturier score but the centers are offering very little in terms of product.

Now, I expect a handful of you to tell me I’m wrong. We’re scoring at a blah blah blah rate, while ignoring glaring weaknesses. We can score, that’s great but I don’t want to win 6-5 games and lose 6-3 games, especially against division rivals.

Enough defending the indefensible!!
- SuperSchennBros

I agree with I don't need more Folin. But I don't think adding another young defender is the fix. I actually think it's the other way. I think they need a vet guy who can play in your top 3 defense role.

I think you need to break up Gostisbehere and Provorov. I am good with Gostisbehere and Hagg. But i need someone who can play with Provorov and play some heavy minutes.

- YuenglingJagr

What’s everyone being for Halloween