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Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Oct 22 @ 9:03 PM ET
LOL

some real "team speed" there, right?
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Oct 22 @ 9:03 PM ET
So a team full of Lehteras can be a fast team as long as they move their feet and make good passes? But a team full of TK's would be slow if they don't?
- Buzzo

Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Oct 22 @ 9:05 PM ET
(frank) sakes. Giroux....Shame Hagg doesn't have better speed (not his fault tho).
- VladDrag


Provorov....same position as Hagg. I am really not trying to the Hagg savior, but its amazing how scapegoat fever works.

No one is mentioning Provorov or Ghost's horrible play this game, but freeeeeeee pass.
Buzzo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dauphin, MB
Joined: 02.07.2011

Oct 22 @ 9:05 PM ET
(frank) sakes. Giroux....Shame Hagg doesn't have better speed (not his fault tho).
- VladDrag


If only he moved his feet quicker.
Landsbergfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gävle, Sweden
Joined: 07.15.2014

Oct 22 @ 9:05 PM ET
I wonder if HaXstol survive the upcoming road trip
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Oct 22 @ 9:05 PM ET
I don't blame them though. If I knew the Leafs GM was in the house I'd turd it up too.
Sinisalo4vr
Location: Dont f with the Jesus, PA
Joined: 06.24.2016

Oct 22 @ 9:06 PM ET
Can someone be fired or traded just for the sake of doing something?
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Oct 22 @ 9:07 PM ET
and it only took 2 periods of sucking for Hak to put TK back where he belongs
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Oct 22 @ 9:07 PM ET
Yes, you can offset a lack of speed with good puck movement, but please, if you can’t see that this team needs to upgrade in the skating department, then I just give up.
- BiggE


While I don’t agree with all the individual player analysis above your point is legit. Speed is something the Flyers could use an upgrade in.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Oct 22 @ 9:07 PM ET
I wonder if HaXstol survive the upcoming road trip
- Landsbergfan

You know if he gets canned Lappy is probably going to get promoted. Ugh

But I guess that would get him off the PK so...win?
bird_dog_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.05.2011

Oct 22 @ 9:08 PM ET
It doesn’t look at all like the flyers didn’t come to play or aren’t moving their feet or much of anything else. The Avs are sharper, quicker in foot and team speed, they are getting a stick on the flyers to deflect most of their opportunities. They are quicker and the flyers right now and a couple weeks ago don’t have any answers for them
- Just5


The Flyers played a terrible first and we're not prepare to skate. The second period their positioning was terrible. Quite a few times in the offensive zone pressure was nullified by guys standing still and not giving the player with the puck a lame to pass the puck.
The Flyers many times when they do shoot do from poor angles and pass from more dangerous areas.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Oct 22 @ 9:09 PM ET
Can I get a comparison break down of Colorado
- Glak18


It doesn’t matter Colorado moves their feet
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Oct 22 @ 9:09 PM ET
While I don’t agree with all the individual player analysis above your point is legit. Speed is something the Flyers could use an upgrade in.
- landros 2

You can quibble over individually players, but thank you for seeing what is, to me, obvious: this team lacks speed.
Buzzo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dauphin, MB
Joined: 02.07.2011

Oct 22 @ 9:09 PM ET
So we have the Avs hemmed in for a long period of time and we throw Lehtera out there to take the pressure off. Brilliant coaching.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Oct 22 @ 9:09 PM ET
For the first time I believe that Hakstol doesn't last past the middle of November.

Even though they just scored a goal, I don't think Hak has any control of this team or the room. The leadership group is ineffective, and when that happens its up to the coach to make them effective.

Too many slow starts. They execute the system like a beer league team playing twice a month on Thursdays. Too many important young players have taken a step back so far this season.

This team need a Keenan type coach. They need someone to crack the whip on them hard and often. Someone who will bench a guy for not back checking no matter how much they make. Benching a guy who makes a stupid pass and turns the puck over. Benching a guy whose lazy play fails to make a clear.

Plays like that dumb pass by Sanheim just now which results in a 2 on 1 the other way.
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Oct 22 @ 9:10 PM ET
You can quibble over individually players, but thank you for seeing what is, to me, obvious: this team lacks speed.
- BiggE


It’s not that they are slow, it’s just that they move their feet slowly and then move slowly.
StepfordSam
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 02.06.2017

Oct 22 @ 9:11 PM ET
For the first time I believe that Hakstol doesn't last past the middle of November.

Even though they just scored a goal, I don't think Hak has any control of this team or the room. The leadership group is ineffective, and when that happens its up to the coach to make them effective.

Too many slow starts. They execute the system like a beer league team playing twice a month on Thursdays. Too many important young players have taken a step back so far this season.

This team need a Keenan type coach. They need someone to crack the whip on them hard and often. Someone who will bench a guy for not back checking no matter how much they make. Benching a guy who makes a stupid pass and turns the puck over. Benching a guy whose lazy play fails to make a clear.

Plays like that dumb pass by Sanheim just now which results in a 2 on 1 the other way.

- MBFlyerfan


If that is the type of coach needed to get this core group to play consistent I’d rather they trade away the core.

Coaches like that don’t have a place in today’s game and when they do get a shot, it’s a fast burn out.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Oct 22 @ 9:11 PM ET
For the first time I believe that Hakstol doesn't last past the middle of November.

Even though they just scored a goal, I don't think Hak has any control of this team or the room. The leadership group is ineffective, and when that happens its up to the coach to make them effective.

Too many slow starts. They execute the system like a beer league team playing twice a month on Thursdays. Too many important young players have taken a step back so far this season.

Amen
This team need a Keenan type coach. They need someone to crack the whip on them hard and often. Someone who will bench a guy for not back checking no matter how much they make. Benching a guy who makes a stupid pass and turns the puck over. Benching a guy whose lazy play fails to make a clear.

Plays like that dumb pass by Sanheim just now which results in a 2 on 1 the other way.

- MBFlyerfan

Landsbergfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gävle, Sweden
Joined: 07.15.2014

Oct 22 @ 9:12 PM ET
They should beat Hax dull twinbro John Stevens team The Kinks”
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Oct 22 @ 9:12 PM ET
For the first time I believe that Hakstol doesn't last past the middle of November.

Even though they just scored a goal, I don't think Hak has any control of this team or the room. The leadership group is ineffective, and when that happens its up to the coach to make them effective.

Too many slow starts. They execute the system like a beer league team playing twice a month on Thursdays. Too many important young players have taken a step back so far this season.
This team need a Keenan type coach. They need someone to crack the whip on them hard and often. Someone who will bench a guy for not back checking no matter how much they make. Benching a guy who makes a stupid pass and turns the puck over. Benching a guy whose lazy play fails to make a clear.

Amen!

Plays like that dumb pass by Sanheim just now which results in a 2 on 1 the other way.

- MBFlyerfan

Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Oct 22 @ 9:12 PM ET
For the first time I believe that Hakstol doesn't last past the middle of November.

Even though they just scored a goal, I don't think Hak has any control of this team or the room. The leadership group is ineffective, and when that happens its up to the coach to make them effective.

Too many slow starts. They execute the system like a beer league team playing twice a month on Thursdays. Too many important young players have taken a step back so far this season.

This team need a Keenan type coach. They need someone to crack the whip on them hard and often. Someone who will bench a guy for not back checking no matter how much they make. Benching a guy who makes a stupid pass and turns the puck over. Benching a guy whose lazy play fails to make a clear.

Plays like that dumb pass by Sanheim just now which results in a 2 on 1 the other way.

- MBFlyerfan


It's not the coach, it's the universe. When someone plays good, someone else has to balance the force by playing bad.

2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Oct 22 @ 9:12 PM ET
I hope we can trade some of these turds for nylander
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Oct 22 @ 9:12 PM ET
For the first time I believe that Hakstol doesn't last past the middle of November.

Even though they just scored a goal, I don't think Hak has any control of this team or the room. The leadership group is ineffective, and when that happens its up to the coach to make them effective.

Too many slow starts. They execute the system like a beer league team playing twice a month on Thursdays. Too many important young players have taken a step back so far this season.

This team need a Keenan type coach. They need someone to crack the whip on them hard and often. Someone who will bench a guy for not back checking no matter how much they make. Benching a guy who makes a stupid pass and turns the puck over. Benching a guy whose lazy play fails to make a clear.

Plays like that dumb pass by Sanheim just now which results in a 2 on 1 the other way.

- MBFlyerfan


It's kinda like Groundhog Day with this team at this point.
VladDrag
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 01.13.2009

Oct 22 @ 9:13 PM ET
Provorov....same position as Hagg. I am really not trying to the Hagg savior, but its amazing how scapegoat fever works.

No one is mentioning Provorov or Ghost's horrible play this game, but freeeeeeee pass.

- Glak18


I only say Hagg because he was closer at the start, Provy was too far away. Also, I said there was no blame to Hagg. If it's Ghost or Sanheim (or Myers) you have a shot to stop him.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Oct 22 @ 9:13 PM ET
If that is the type of coach needed to get this core group to play consistent I’d rather they trade away the core.

Coaches like that don’t have a place in today’s game and when they do get a shot, it’s a fast burn out.

- StepfordSam

This core has been through 3 coaches now. Hate to say it but I don't think a new coach alone will save this team.

If the start to the season is indicative of the year they're going to have it's time to seriously consider a major retooling.
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