Not according to Hamsteak.

Hak on Sanheim/Gudas: "They’ve been a real solid staple for us. We want that to continue. We need a little bit better play out of some of the other guys back there, but that’s not the reason to increase and change the role of guys that are going pretty well.”

Uh, yes it is.

— Dave Isaac (@davegisaac) October 20, 2018

- VladDrag

Hakstol is not going to diminish the minutes of Provorov and Gostisbehere, nor should he. Sanheim is playing very well, why change that? It's a process.

Sounds great, but he started the season there and basically didn't do much. Now playing with Weal and Lindblom, now looks like the kid the Flyers want.

So because he is getting hot now with other players you want to see what he can do with players he didn't do much with earlier?
- Glak18

He was productive as hell there last year. I’d also argue he was one of the best forwards to start this year, it was only a matter of time until the goals started to go in.

He was productive as hell there last year.
- flyer_nutter

I'm not sure why some fans think the only spot Konecny can play on is 1RW, and that if he's not being played there, then he's being punished. The coach is simply looking for balance in the lineup and Konecny seems to have the ability to be a catalyst when moved to other lines. Won't go far as a team with only one line.

Not according to Hamsteak.

Hak on Sanheim/Gudas: "They’ve been a real solid staple for us. We want that to continue. We need a little bit better play out of some of the other guys back there, but that’s not the reason to increase and change the role of guys that are going pretty well.”

Uh, yes it is.

— Dave Isaac (@davegisaac) October 20, 2018

- VladDrag

Do people forget so easily about the past, just because a player plays well with a smaller amount of minutes doesn't always translate to the same play with more minutes.

On the subject of managerial incompetence, Jerry Jones and the Dallas cowboys traded away a first round pick for Amari Cooper.

Sounds great, but he started the season there and basically didn't do much. Now playing with Weal and Lindblom, now looks like the kid the Flyers want.

So because he is getting hot now with other players you want to see what he can do with players he didn't do much with earlier?
- Glak18

To be fair, I think he hit like 5 posts before actually getting his first goal. He was buzzing on that line this year and last.

I personally like him with Weal and Lindblom right now, so I wouldn't make the change. I've also been saying since last year that him and Patrick should be next to each other. They have styles that seem to complement each other.

He was productive as hell there last year. I’d also argue he was one of the best forwards to start this year, it was only a matter of time until the goals started to go in.
- flyer_nutter

Yes he was later in the year when he moved there, but he is also getting his confidence right now with other players. You could move him back on the top line, but you now risk diminishing 2 or 3 lines of chemistry after a win. Simmonds hasn't looked bad either playing on the top line.

It's a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation.

Call me crazy, 5 on 5 I'm probably giving Sanhiem and Gudas first pairing minutes until the other pairs get clear out of their funks/players get healthy. They've earned it.
- hereticpride

I think what's crazy is that they are currently #6 and #7 in EV TOI/GP behind the guy Hakstol signed to be the #7 dman after Morin got hurt.

http://www.nhl.com/stats/...1&sort=evTimeOnIcePerGame

There are actually teams in the NHL where when the #7 comes in due to injury, he plays like 12-13 minutes a game and the regulars all get increased minutes. Not with Hak, though.

Do people forget so easily about the past, just because a player plays well with a smaller amount of minutes doesn't always translate to the same play with more minutes.
- Glak18

So what does he have to do to earn a chance at more time? It's clear he's been one of their better dmen. He was their best last game. He deserves to be given the chance to play more minutes to have a better impact.

I don't know how else he's supposed to earn additional minutes.

So what does he have to do to earn a chance at more time? It's clear he's been one of their better dmen. He was their best last game. He deserves to be given the chance to play more minutes to have a better impact.

I don't know how else he's supposed to earn additional minutes.
- VladDrag

Keep on doing what he is doing. He's been one of the better defenseman in his role. It's not a guarantee that he will continue to play as well if his ice time and role is increased. It's a development process. In time his ice time and role will be increased but right now it's clear that he is comfortable in his role and situation. Hakstol is smart enough to know that there is no reason to mess with that right now.

Keep on doing what he is doing. He's been one of the better defenseman in his role. It's not a guarantee that he will continue to play as well if his ice time and role is increased. It's a development process. In time his ice time and role will be increased but right now it's clear that he is comfortable in his role and situation. Hakstol is smart enough to know that there is no reason to mess with that right now.
- MJL

The reason to give Sanheim more ice time is to help the team win games.

Hakstol isn't smart enough to realize that Sanheim should be playing a lot more minutes than Christian Folin.

He's got that piece of paper man. Never underestimate the secrets that folded piece of paper holds.


- mayorofangrytown

As of tonight that paper will have been behind the bench for the 7th most games in team history.

So what does he have to do to earn a chance at more time? It's clear he's been one of their better dmen. He was their best last game. He deserves to be given the chance to play more minutes to have a better impact.

I don't know how else he's supposed to earn additional minutes.
- VladDrag

Haha are you serious, maybe be the best defense-man for more than 3 games...They are playing well in their role, no reason to change it up now.

So what does he have to do to earn a chance at more time? It's clear he's been one of their better dmen. He was their best last game. He deserves to be given the chance to play more minutes to have a better impact.

I don't know how else he's supposed to earn additional minutes.
- VladDrag

He continues to play just as well with the role he is given. We already know what happens when Gudas gets increased ice time, as for Sanheim he needs to continue to play well for more than just 7 games especially since he still doesn't have many games as a pro.

I am all for earning ice time, 7 games is not enough time. Unless you want to knock Provorov down to 14 mins a game then you might as well trade him.

The reason to give Sanheim more ice time is to help the team win games.

Hakstol isn't smart enough to realize that Sanheim should be playing a lot more minutes than Christian Folin.
- Feanor

I'm fine with this, as everyone should be, but people saying that Gudas/Sanheim should be deployed as the #1 pair need to take a step back

The reason to give Sanheim more ice time is to help the team win games.

Hakstol isn't smart enough to realize that Sanheim should be playing a lot more minutes than Christian Folin.
- Feanor

Don't you mean Gudas not Sanheim...since Sanheim doesn't play the right side.

I'm fine with this, as everyone should be, but people saying that Gudas/Sanheim should be deployed as the #1 pair need to take a step back
- ClaudeFather

I don't think anyone has claimed that.

The reason to give Sanheim more ice time is to help the team win games.

Hakstol isn't smart enough to realize that Sanheim should be playing a lot more minutes than Christian Folin.
- Feanor

Folin is playing currently with Gostisbehere, so that is the only reason why his minutes are where they are. I'm amazed but how some fans are so blind to the solid reasoning of why things are done the way they are currently. The worst thing they could do right now is jump the gun and pile more responsibilities on Sanheim. He's doing very well right now. Don't interrupt that, and let him continue to play well. Let the process play out and gradually increase. When MacDonald is ready to play again, Folin will go back to being the 7th dman.

You have such a ridiculous bias against Hakstol that it is clouding your judgement.

Folin and Ghost shouldn't be anywhere near the same amount of minutes. Folin is a bargain bin #7.

Don't you mean Gudas not Sanheim...since Sanheim doesn't play the right side.
- Glak18

Sanheim-Gudas should be used as the 2nd pairing behind Provorov-Ghost.

All should be getting more minutes than Hagg-Folin/MacDonald.

Sanheim-Gudas should be used as the 2nd pairing behind Provorov-Ghost.

All should be getting more minutes than Hagg-Folin/MacDonald.
- Feanor

But those aren't the pairs anymore.

Provorov/Hagg
Ghost/Folin
Sanheim/Gudas

Was Saturdays pairs.

But those aren't the pairs anymore.

Provorov/Hagg
Ghost/Folin
Sanheim/Gudas

Was Saturdays pairs.
- dragonoffrost

with the new lines, I'm fine with a more even distribution and then end of periods send out not whoever just not Folin.

Folin is playing currently with Gostisbehere, so that is the only reason why his minutes are where they are. I'm amazed but how some fans are so blind to the solid reasoning of why things are done the way they are currently. The worst thing they could do right now is jump the gun and pile more responsibilities on Sanheim.
- MJL

You would have to be missing both eyes to claim giving Sanheim more than 14 and change at ES is jumping the gun, when Hagg is on the top pairing and Folin has gone from healthy scratch to the 2nd pairing.

He continues to play just as well with the role he is given. We already know what happens when Gudas gets increased ice time, as for Sanheim he needs to continue to play well for more than just 7 games especially since he still doesn't have many games as a pro.

I am all for earning ice time, 7 games is not enough time. Unless you want to knock Provorov down to 14 mins a game then you might as well trade him.
- Glak18

I'm not calling for 25 mins a night for the pair, but he does deserve more icetime. Provy isn't the only Dman that can have his minutes reduced either. Hagg can as well. I think Hagg has been good, but sending him out 17-18min a niht at ES isn't the best way to win games...and I've like Hagg's game this year so far for the most part

Folin and Ghost shouldn't be anywhere near the same amount of minutes. Folin is a bargain bin #7.



Sanheim-Gudas should be used as the 2nd pairing behind Provorov-Ghost.

All should be getting more minutes than Hagg-Folin/MacDonald.
- Feanor

AAAAAND you completely missed his point......

Folin and Ghost shouldn't be anywhere near the same amount of minutes. Folin is a bargain bin #7.



Sanheim-Gudas should be used as the 2nd pairing behind Provorov-Ghost.

All should be getting more minutes than Hagg-Folin/MacDonald.
- Feanor

Well when NHL teams start playing defensemen as pairs of 1 player then you are right, unfortunately pairs consist of 2 players.

If Sanheim could play the right side he would probably be playing in Hagg's spot, but he doesn't he is below Provorov and Ghost. Of course Ghost can play with Provorov, but sadly that pairing looks like balls right now. To be fair Hagg has been playing just as well if not better than Sanheim this year.

But the Flyers just won a game, let's change it up because...pretty on paper?