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seedy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: you don't need an ignore button to ignore someone., CA
Joined: 02.22.2007

Oct 23 @ 8:54 PM ET
Pominville walks or re-signs for $1m
Sign Skinner to a Kane deal
Extend mccabe, 3x2.2-OK
let Beaulieu, Elie, Girgensons and Larsson walk_Pretty
Erod 6 years 1.85 per
sign Simmonds, 4 years, 6.75m - or spend a pick to move Okposo and sign Stone

Skinner-Eichel-Reinhart
Nylander-Mittelstadt-Simmonds
Olofsson-Berglund-Okposo
Sheary-Erod-Sobotka
Pominville or equal
O'Regan/Malone
Fin.

- jcragcrumple


Pommenville can stay at a HEAVY hometown discount if he really wants to play. With the understanding that he has to retire anytime its obvious the wheels are falling off.
McCabe, sure.
Scrubs, Sayonara or TDL or whatever. Who cares? Welcome, top Amerks players!
Erod is a keeper. Raise him, but don't break the bank. He is currently what Wilson and Sheary were.
Simmonds, Nah. Im worried that Okposso may become Moulson 2.0.
By the TDL, we should move out most vets that we can and bring up the best players we have in Rochester.
Or, move those vets in the off season and assume those Rochester kids get their spots next year.
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Oct 23 @ 9:28 PM ET
LET'S GO SOX!!!

Red Sox in 6. Gonna be a great world series.

- mhp

Go slip in the shower
seedy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: you don't need an ignore button to ignore someone., CA
Joined: 02.22.2007

Oct 23 @ 9:41 PM ET
Go slip in the shower
- SABRES 89


#StickaBaseBallBatInYourAssbuzz
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Oct 23 @ 9:50 PM ET
Go slip in the shower
- SABRES 89

OH MY
mhp
Buffalo Sabres
Location: PROUD MEMBER OF RED SOX NATION SINCE 1975!!!! , SD
Joined: 01.14.2008

Oct 23 @ 9:57 PM ET
Go slip in the shower
- SABRES 89


That Yankees series was awesome..
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Oct 23 @ 10:11 PM ET
Pommenville can stay at a HEAVY hometown discount if he really wants to play. With the understanding that he has to retire anytime its obvious the wheels are falling off.
McCabe, sure.
Scrubs, Sayonara or TDL or whatever. Who cares? Welcome, top Amerks players!
Erod is a keeper. Raise him, but don't break the bank. He is currently what Wilson and Sheary were.
Simmonds, Nah. Im worried that Okposso may become Moulson 2.0.
By the TDL, we should move out most vets that we can and bring up the best players we have in Rochester.
Or, move those vets in the off season and assume those Rochester kids get their spots next year.

- seedy



I look at him as a candidate for a value contract; someone to exceed the contract value if they can lock him up at a good price. That's important in a salary cap world, and there aren't many candidates on the roster to exceed their AAV. I would gladly go long term on a speedy versatile forward who can play top-6 when needed, but also play bottom 6 LW/C/RW

As for Okposo, it's too late to worry. That contract is an albatross within 18 months. All we can hope for is retaining salary, an amnesty buyout via the lockout, or he decides he has post concussion syndrome.

I would definitely commit to Simmonds for 4 years, and I'd commit to Stone for 6
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Oct 23 @ 10:13 PM ET
I look at him as a candidate for a value contract; someone to exceed the value if they can lock him up at a good price. That's important in a salary cap world, and there aren't many candidates on the roster to exceed their AAV. I would gladly go long term on a speedy versatile forward who can play top-6 when needed, but also play bottom 6 LW/C/RW

As for Okposo, it's too late to worry. That contract is an albatross within 18 months. All we can hope for is retaining salary, an amnesty buyout via the lockout, or he decides he has post concussion syndrome.

I would definitely commit to Simmonds for 4 years, and I'd go commit to Stone for 6

- jcragcrumple



As much as Id love Stone on this team, i dont think we can commit anymore big contracts to wingers.

It's either got to be low risk/high reward deals or expiring contracts.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Oct 23 @ 10:16 PM ET
As much as Id love Stone on this team, i dont think we can commit anymore big contracts to wingers.

It's either got to be low risk/high reward deals or expiring contracts.

- Sabresfan-365


I'm all for using picks to dump Okposo next summer. LA or AZ seem to be good candidates. Retain 1.5m or so if necessary
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Oct 23 @ 10:20 PM ET
I'm all for using picks to dump Okposo next summer. LA or AZ seem to be good candidates. Retain 1.5m or so if necessary
- jcragcrumple


LA has no room for much of anything, let alone okposo

His 15 team no trade list kicked in this year so that may make things challenging.

I think they're stuck with this deal until either

a)amnesty buyouts are given post lockout

b) The 21-22 season, when his salary drops to 4 million.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Oct 23 @ 10:22 PM ET
LA has no room for much of anything, let alone okposo

His 15 team no trade list kicked in this year so that may make things challenging.

I think they're stuck with this deal until either

a)amnesty buyouts are given post lockout

b) The 21-22 season, when his salary drops to 4 million.

- Sabresfan-365



LA is going to be looking to rebuild. Kovy and a 4th for Okposo and the STL 1st

Assuming either would waive
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Oct 23 @ 10:24 PM ET
LA is going to be looking to rebuild. Kovy and a 4th for Okposo and the STL 1st

Assuming either would waive

- jcragcrumple



How does this help them? They get a worse player and worse deal.

Not to mention that Kovy is 35+ contract.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Oct 23 @ 10:27 PM ET
How does this help them? They get a worse player and worse deal.

Not to mention that Kovy is 35+ contract.

- Sabresfan-365


Kovy is a shorter contract and a better goal scorer. Emphasis on the first part. 2 more years versus 4
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Oct 23 @ 10:28 PM ET
Kovy is a shorter contract and a better goal scorer. Emphasis on the first part. 2 more years versus 4
- jcragcrumple


Yeah Im saying how does this help the kings? They're on the hook for 2 additional years of dead weight instead of whatever kovy brings and if he retired with us before contract expiry they'd take that cap hit too.

Even with the STL pick this would ruin them
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Oct 23 @ 10:32 PM ET
Yeah Im saying how does this help the kings? They're on the hook for 2 additional years of dead weight instead of whatever kovy brings and if he retired with us before contract expiry they'd take that cap hit too.

Even with the STL pick this would ruin them

- Sabresfan-365


They're not going to win a cup for the next 4 years. They need picks
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Oct 23 @ 10:36 PM ET
They're not going to win a cup for the next 4 years. They need picks
- jcragcrumple



Couldn't they just get picks by trading Kovalchuk...for picks? like without okposo's poopty deal?

Sorry I just don't buy that a rebuilding team would actively choose to add one of the worst contracts in the NHL (they've already got 2 in the top 10/15) just to get a pick between 15-31. They could easily get picks for him in the summer.
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Oct 23 @ 10:41 PM ET
Passed the Bar!
- feetontheair22


Nice work Feet. Big play well done.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Oct 23 @ 10:42 PM ET
Couldn't they just get picks by trading Kovalchuk...for picks? like without okposo's poopty deal?

Sorry I just don't buy that a rebuilding team would actively choose to add one of the worst contracts in the NHL (they've already got 2 in the top 10/15) just to get a pick between 15-31. They could easily get picks for him in the summer.

- Sabresfan-365


I don't think anyone is gonna offer a 1st for Kovy especially at his salary, but we'd be in a good position to do it
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Oct 23 @ 10:44 PM ET
Nice work Feet. Big play well done.
- Der Kaiser

Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Oct 23 @ 10:44 PM ET
I don't think anyone is gonna offer a 1st for Kovy especially at his salary, but we'd be in a good position to do it
- jcragcrumple



Right but what makes more sense for a rebuilding team.

Moving Kovy's salary for 2nd round picks

Adding Okposo's deal for a 1st?

At worst, they'll likely just retool having committed to Kopitar long term. Adding Okposo's deal doesn't help them turn it around, not a great sell for keeping Doughty happy either.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Oct 23 @ 10:47 PM ET
Right but what makes more sense for a rebuilding team.

Moving Kovy's salary for 2nd round picks

Adding Okposo's deal for a 1st?

At worst, they'll likely just retool having committed to Kopitar long term. Adding Okposo's deal doesn't help them turn it around, not a great sell for keeping Doughty either.

- Sabresfan-365



Would anyone even offer that? It's a lot of celery
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Oct 23 @ 10:49 PM ET
Would anyone even offer that? It's a lot of celery
- jcragcrumple



It is, and to be fair im working under the assumption that kovy plays well this year. Well enough that someone will take that risk if they think they're getting a high end goal scorer for 2nd rounders.
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Oct 23 @ 11:13 PM ET
LA has no room for much of anything, let alone okposo

His 15 team no trade list kicked in this year so that may make things challenging.

I think they're stuck with this deal until either

a)amnesty buyouts are given post lockout

b) The 21-22 season, when his salary drops to 4 million.

- Sabresfan-365

I think he had a full no trade before his 15 teamer kicked in.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Oct 23 @ 11:30 PM ET
As much as Id love Stone on this team, i dont think we can commit anymore big contracts to wingers.

It's either got to be low risk/high reward deals or expiring contracts.

- Sabresfan-365


Stone's going to get a lot of interest and a big 7 year deal. If we're in on him, great. Seems like a long shot though.

Frankly, I'm fine with simply re-signing Skinner, making all of our picks in the draft this year, and not making any significant long term signing. Likely need some kind of trade on D, depending on how prospects develop.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Oct 23 @ 11:53 PM ET
Stone's going to get a lot of interest and a big 7 year deal. If we're in on him, great. Seems like a long shot though.

Frankly, I'm fine with simply re-signing Skinner, making all of our picks in the draft this year, and not making any significant long term signing. Likely need some kind of trade on D, depending on how prospects develop.

- Lunaion



Agreed, but I would move one of the picks to land an above average defensively RHD.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Oct 23 @ 11:53 PM ET
I think he had a full no trade before his 15 teamer kicked in.
- Mentalorgasm5


oh god the gift that keeps on giving
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