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sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Oct 22 @ 3:24 PM ET
Depends on one's expectations.

Sam showed he can play at a very high-level when he is motivated.
Playing at 40-45pt pace isn't good enough IMO, especially if one needs the man advantage to put up a good portion of those points. He is in his fourth year with 250+ games under his belt.
ROR was run out of town for consistently throwing up 60pts, I would love to see Sam put up those numbers, especially playing a good portion of time on Jack's wing.

Maybe your expectations are different, that's fine.

Mitts is a rookie, 9 games in and to me shows a higher level of compete already.
He already is puting in the effort to develop a very good defensive game and be a terrific 2 way player. I'm confident based on what I have seen, he will be fine.

A better comparable for him would be Bustlander, but he is young so he needs a break cut for him.
There's a narrative.

- IonSabres

Pretty much, and this has been Sam's status quo now for 4 years.

His hot streak fooled me. He is who he is. Going forward my expectations need to be tempered
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Oct 22 @ 3:33 PM ET
what a difference 48 hours makes


good job sabres

F@ck you bills

- homiedclown


It is almost November, forgive me for starting a few days early...

Wr FA's
1. Odell Beckham Jr., New York Giants
2. Brandin Cooks, Los Angeles Rams
3. Stefon Diggs, Minnesota Vikings
4. Golden Tate, Detroit Lions
5. Larry Fitzgerald, Arizona Cardinals

The top five free-agent wide receivers only scratch the surface of potential movement. Beckham, Cooks and Diggs are 25 years old or younger and established No. 1 targets. Tate is the game's best after the catch. Fitzgerald will again consider retirement next offseason, but three straight 100-reception seasons say he's far from done.

Randall Cobb, Kelvin Benjamin, Devin Funchess, Martavis Bryant, Jermaine Kearse, Rishard Matthews, Donte Moncrief, Cole Beasley, Tyler Lockett and Tyrell Williams are wonderful second-tier options. Whatever skill a team lacks in its passing game, it can find in free agency next year.

Tackle
1. Taylor Lewan, Tennessee Titans
2. Jake Matthews, Atlanta Falcons
3. Duane Brown, Seattle Seahawks
4. Daryl Williams, Carolina Panthers
5. Rob Havenstein, Los Angeles Rams

The emphasis placed on established veterans over promising prospects is greater than ever as the collegiate game struggles to produce ready-made offensive linemen. As such, contracts for blockers have skyrocketed the last few years, and the growth should continue with two of the game's better young left tackles, Lewan and Matthews, potentially available in 2019.

Duane Brown, on the other hand, can still land a massive payday—Andrew Whitworth and Nate Solder did despite their ages.
Williams and Havenstein are right tackles.

Guard
1. Ali Marpet, Tampa Bay Buccaneers
2. Shaq Mason, New England Patriots
3. Quinton Spain, Tennessee Titans
4. Mike Iupati, Arizona Cardinals
5. Jack Mewhort, Indianapolis Colts

Guard isn't as glamorous as tackle, but the price tags for some of the league's best interior blockers rival their counterparts. Marpet should be the next to receive a large check because he can excel at both guard spots and center.

Mason is one of the game's best run-blockers, while Spain is 26 years old with 27 starts over the last two seasons. Iupati and Mewhort could be higher on the list if not for their injury histories.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Oct 22 @ 3:46 PM ET
I wouldn't use a 1st to get him, but the Bills are at the bottom, looking to (vastly, probably) improve next year with all the new cap space. Getting Peterson to pair with White would be elite level.
- TheSabresTaco


The politicians would need to fund the 2nd Peace Bridge to handle the pedestrian traffic.
Might want to build it a bit taller to maximixe effectiveness.
hehateme
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 04.11.2017

Oct 22 @ 3:47 PM ET
I really don't get all the hate for Sam R. What is wrong with a player who has improved his point totals every single year since he came into this league and has done it on a horrible team with really not a lot around him..

he is not or ever is going to be an Eichel, Matthews or McDavid but a lot of Sabres fans want him to be. He will be a 50-60 PT guy..

What is wrong with that???
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Oct 22 @ 4:03 PM ET
I really don't get all the hate for Sam R. What is wrong with a player who has improved his point totals every single year since he came into this league and has done it on a horrible team with really not a lot around him..

he is not or ever is going to be an Eichel, Matthews or McDavid but a lot of Sabres fans want him to be. He will be a 50-60 PT guy..

What is wrong with that???

- hehateme

Their anal beads are stuck up in there and they can't get them out.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Oct 22 @ 4:04 PM ET
It is almost November, forgive me for starting a few days early...

Wr FA's
1. Odell Beckham Jr., New York Giants
2. Brandin Cooks, Los Angeles Rams
3. Stefon Diggs, Minnesota Vikings
4. Golden Tate, Detroit Lions
5. Larry Fitzgerald, Arizona Cardinals

The top five free-agent wide receivers only scratch the surface of potential movement. Beckham, Cooks and Diggs are 25 years old or younger and established No. 1 targets. Tate is the game's best after the catch. Fitzgerald will again consider retirement next offseason, but three straight 100-reception seasons say he's far from done.

Randall Cobb, Kelvin Benjamin, Devin Funchess, Martavis Bryant, Jermaine Kearse, Rishard Matthews, Donte Moncrief, Cole Beasley, Tyler Lockett and Tyrell Williams are wonderful second-tier options. Whatever skill a team lacks in its passing game, it can find in free agency next year.

Tackle
1. Taylor Lewan, Tennessee Titans
2. Jake Matthews, Atlanta Falcons
3. Duane Brown, Seattle Seahawks
4. Daryl Williams, Carolina Panthers
5. Rob Havenstein, Los Angeles Rams

The emphasis placed on established veterans over promising prospects is greater than ever as the collegiate game struggles to produce ready-made offensive linemen. As such, contracts for blockers have skyrocketed the last few years, and the growth should continue with two of the game's better young left tackles, Lewan and Matthews, potentially available in 2019.

Duane Brown, on the other hand, can still land a massive payday—Andrew Whitworth and Nate Solder did despite their ages.
Williams and Havenstein are right tackles.

Guard
1. Ali Marpet, Tampa Bay Buccaneers
2. Shaq Mason, New England Patriots
3. Quinton Spain, Tennessee Titans
4. Mike Iupati, Arizona Cardinals
5. Jack Mewhort, Indianapolis Colts

Guard isn't as glamorous as tackle, but the price tags for some of the league's best interior blockers rival their counterparts.
Marpet should be the next to receive a large check because he can excel at both guard spots and center.

Mason is one of the game's best run-blockers, while Spain is 26 years old with 27 starts over the last two seasons. Iupati and Mewhort could be higher on the list if not for their injury histories.

- IonSabres


Vinyl tile isn't as glamorous as wood laminate, but the price tags for some of the market's best LVT rivals its counterparts
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Oct 22 @ 4:07 PM ET
Actually, From Hockey Reference Berglund, Girgensons and Larsson all had below 50% CF%
Mitts lead the way with 76%

- IonSabres


http://corsica.hockey/games/?id=2018020117

May need to refresh the page if it's grayed out.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Oct 22 @ 4:09 PM ET
I think JB just having a plan in general is why this team looks semi-competent.

Lucking into Dahlin helps but Tim Murray wouldn’t have touched Skinner or Sheary because

A. They didn’t come from Ottawa
B. They probably were too small for him

Botterill just saw value for what he had to give up

- sbroads24



Come on, what about the 3 Pens players Botterill traded for? Only one of which is semi-competent.
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Oct 22 @ 4:10 PM ET
Pretty much, and this has been Sam's status quo now for 4 years.

His hot streak fooled me. He is who he is. Going forward my expectations need to be tempered

- sbroads24


He starts years slow. Few more weeks and will be business as usual. He'll be a consistent 50 PT guy in this league given top6 minutes. Take it or leave it, I guess.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Oct 22 @ 4:10 PM ET
Pretty much, and this has been Sam's status quo now for 4 years.

His hot streak fooled me. He is who he is. Going forward my expectations need to be tempered

- sbroads24


Unless he scores 60 points the rest of the way?
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Oct 22 @ 4:13 PM ET
I really don't get all the hate for Sam R. What is wrong with a player who has improved his point totals every single year since he came into this league and has done it on a horrible team with really not a lot around him..

he is not or ever is going to be an Eichel, Matthews or McDavid but a lot of Sabres fans want him to be. He will be a 50-60 PT guy..

What is wrong with that???

- hehateme


Appearance is a big problem. When he gets to the net and battles, good things happen. When he's just going through the motions, and only half halfheartedly going to the net or peeling off, he just looks invisible. He turns into a weak perimeter player, who loses every board battle, has below average speed, and a weak shot.


Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Oct 22 @ 4:17 PM ET
I'm not mad
- jochfr


You're not trying.
Lilroot9
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.18.2012

Oct 22 @ 4:18 PM ET
It is almost November, forgive me for starting a few days early...

Wr FA's
1. Odell Beckham Jr., New York Giants
2. Brandin Cooks, Los Angeles Rams
3. Stefon Diggs, Minnesota Vikings
4. Golden Tate, Detroit Lions
5. Larry Fitzgerald, Arizona Cardinals

The top five free-agent wide receivers only scratch the surface of potential movement. Beckham, Cooks and Diggs are 25 years old or younger and established No. 1 targets. Tate is the game's best after the catch. Fitzgerald will again consider retirement next offseason, but three straight 100-reception seasons say he's far from done.

Randall Cobb, Kelvin Benjamin, Devin Funchess, Martavis Bryant, Jermaine Kearse, Rishard Matthews, Donte Moncrief, Cole Beasley, Tyler Lockett and Tyrell Williams are wonderful second-tier options. Whatever skill a team lacks in its passing game, it can find in free agency next year.

Tackle
1. Taylor Lewan, Tennessee Titans
2. Jake Matthews, Atlanta Falcons
3. Duane Brown, Seattle Seahawks
4. Daryl Williams, Carolina Panthers
5. Rob Havenstein, Los Angeles Rams

The emphasis placed on established veterans over promising prospects is greater than ever as the collegiate game struggles to produce ready-made offensive linemen. As such, contracts for blockers have skyrocketed the last few years, and the growth should continue with two of the game's better young left tackles, Lewan and Matthews, potentially available in 2019.

Duane Brown, on the other hand, can still land a massive payday—Andrew Whitworth and Nate Solder did despite their ages.
Williams and Havenstein are right tackles.

Guard
1. Ali Marpet, Tampa Bay Buccaneers
2. Shaq Mason, New England Patriots
3. Quinton Spain, Tennessee Titans
4. Mike Iupati, Arizona Cardinals
5. Jack Mewhort, Indianapolis Colts

Guard isn't as glamorous as tackle, but the price tags for some of the league's best interior blockers rival their counterparts. Marpet should be the next to receive a large check because he can excel at both guard spots and center.

Mason is one of the game's best run-blockers, while Spain is 26 years old with 27 starts over the last two seasons. Iupati and Mewhort could be higher on the list if not for their injury histories.

- IonSabres


I am a little confused here. 3 of the 5 WR's are signed long term. Fitzgerald will not be signing with any other team besides Cardinals. So that only leaves Tate. Just not sure what you are saying with that list.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Oct 22 @ 4:25 PM ET
Come on, what about the 3 Pens players Botterill traded for? Only one of which is semi-competent.
- Wetbandit1

Right. from a good Organization who's actually won something.

Plus I was semi making a joke.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Oct 22 @ 4:27 PM ET
Unless he scores 60 points the rest of the way?
- kingcong39

I don't get it
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Oct 22 @ 4:28 PM ET
Maybe on the pressure part.
Based on very evident hard work on the backcheck, I'd say the Coaches are in his head and he is focused on making sure not to screw up in that regard...and that is taking away from his free-wheeling offensive style we have seen most prominently in the WJ20's last season.
His defensive awareness and hustle at age 19 is impressive and is further along than Jack was in his rookie season, by far.
I am highly confident that when he learns to put the two (2) together, he will be awesome.

Isn't it fun to watch young guys like him and Dahlin developing before our eyes...and for Jack's on ice determination...he is playing great...making tough plays, winning battles along the wall, coming back hard...he is turning into an all around beast.
I see Casey becomming much the same, but different paths!

- IonSabres


He seems to really listen and then do. It happened in San Jose, the coaches were animated on the bench and the next shift he was out there, he went straight to the net and got feisty with a Sharks player. The only player on the team it seemed that listened.

On another note: for what seems like Jack not shooting as much, he's sneakily 7th or 8th in the league in SOG. Maybe it's because he's getting ~10% more of his shots through to the net over his career average.
hehateme
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 04.11.2017

Oct 22 @ 4:29 PM ET
Appearance is a big problem. When he gets to the net and battles, good things happen. When he's just going through the motions, and only half halfheartedly going to the net or peeling off, he just looks invisible. He turns into a weak perimeter player, who loses every board battle, has below average speed, and a weak shot.
- Lunaion


but will put up 50-60 points every year and will be a good play maker on the PP..
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Oct 22 @ 4:29 PM ET
Right. from a good Organization who's actually won something.

Plus I was semi making a joke.

- sbroads24


You say that, but it gets brought up a lot. Good org or not, 2 are basically useless and one is overpaid by about 50%.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Oct 22 @ 4:31 PM ET
You say that, but it gets brought up a lot. Good org or not, 2 are basically useless and one is overpaid by about 50%.
- Wetbandit1

Which ones are which?

Hunwick was a favor. Wilson is hurt, and Sheary plays a good role.

My point was that JB doesn't seem to have a bias like Murray obviously did.

JB looks for value.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Oct 22 @ 4:32 PM ET
Come on, what about the 3 Pens players Botterill traded for? Only one of which is semi-competent.
- Wetbandit1



wow it took me a lot longer than it should have to figure out all 3
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Oct 22 @ 4:32 PM ET
but will put up 50-60 points every year and will be a good play maker on the PP..
- hehateme

We should hold off on listing 50 as his low end, when it's actually his career high
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Oct 22 @ 4:32 PM ET
wow it took me a lot longer than it should have to figure out all 3
- Sabresfan-365


To be fair only one is playing.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Oct 22 @ 4:34 PM ET
To be fair only one is playing.
- Wetbandit1


On a more serious note, every GM does this but these two comparisons aren't equal. The net cost of Murray's favourites nearly crippled this teams outlook. The three pens came at cost of a fourth, fifth rounder and some cap space.
hehateme
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 04.11.2017

Oct 22 @ 4:35 PM ET
We should hold off on listing 50 as his low end, when it's actually his career high
- sbroads24



I am very confident that Sam will consistently hit the 50-60 point mark every year. I think his ceiling is mid 60's and i am fine with that... A lot of people think he shuld be a 70Pt guy just based on his draft status of #2 overall.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Oct 22 @ 4:37 PM ET
I am very confident that Sam will consistently hit the 50-60 point mark every year. I think his ceiling is mid 60's and i am fine with that... A lot of people think he shuld be a 70Pt guy just based on his draft status of #2 overall.
- hehateme


Id settle for an uptick in primary production, especially at 5v5. 16 last year, just 1 in 9 this year.

Edit: he was 9th worst of any forward with 1000 mins or more.
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