And now the local media is asking EP if he is considering returning to Sweden due to the injury. God it’s hard to explain how much I hate our media
- CanuckDon

caught some of that this morning. holy poop

Toronto loved their team no matter what they do. players over the years have said they disliked playing in Montreal for that reason.

Are you trying to say media doesn't have power? You must be trolling. It's talked about constantly that players just ignore the media. Why would they do that if they had no influence.
- manvanfan

Not trolling, just pointing out that you have control over what you want to hear and believe. Fans and players alike.

Again, don’t fall for the routine of management vs media. It’s a game. I laughed out loud when you mentioned Burke. He was a master of manipulation and he needed the media to do it. Come on, you remember all the back and forth. It was exhausting.

Media is only relevant because we allow it to be. We listen only when it pleases us. Pratt doesn’t have a job because he’s a sports genius. He has a job because he says things the majority like to hear. The more outrageous the better.

Who are the morons? People who say moronic things, or the people who listen?

Not trolling, just pointing out that you have control over what you want to hear and believe. Fans and players alike.

Again, don’t fall for the routine of management vs media. It’s a game. I laughed out loud when you mentioned Burke. He was a master of manipulation and he needed the media to do it. Come on, you remember all the back and forth. It was exhausting.

Media is only relevant because we allow it to be. We listen only when it pleases us. Pratt doesn’t have a job because he’s a sports genius. He has a job because he says things the majority like to hear. The more outrageous the better.

Who are the morons? People who say moronic things, or the people who listen?
- bloatedmosquito

sure, but most people aren't woke enough to make that distinction. that's where some of the responsibility lies with the media.

the media don't HAVE to be sensationalist, but of course they know it gets more hits, creates more talk etc and makes them feel cool for driving the narrative

Not trolling, just pointing out that you have control over what you want to hear and believe. Fans and players alike.

Again, don’t fall for the routine of management vs media. It’s a game. I laughed out loud when you mentioned Burke. He was a master of manipulation and he needed the media to do it. Come on, you remember all the back and forth. It was exhausting.

Media is only relevant because we allow it to be. We listen only when it pleases us. Pratt doesn’t have a job because he’s a sports genius. He has a job because he says things the majority like to hear. The more outrageous the better.

Who are the morons? People who say moronic things, or the people who listen?
- bloatedmosquito

We want to hear EP speak, we are forced to listen to moronic questions from the media. Part of the process

We want to hear EP speak, we are forced to listen to moronic questions from the media. Part of the process
- CanuckDon

Many other ways of wording a question then " do you want to go back to Sweden?"
"Is the NHL more physical then you anticipated?"
"Do you think other teams will target you physically more often?"

Something that you might actually want to answer.

Not trolling, just pointing out that you have control over what you want to hear and believe. Fans and players alike.

Again, don’t fall for the routine of management vs media. It’s a game. I laughed out loud when you mentioned Burke. He was a master of manipulation and he needed the media to do it. Come on, you remember all the back and forth. It was exhausting.

Media is only relevant because we allow it to be. We listen only when it pleases us. Pratt doesn’t have a job because he’s a sports genius. He has a job because he says things the majority like to hear. The more outrageous the better.

Who are the morons? People who say moronic things, or the people who listen?
- bloatedmosquito

Morons in the media, that's why he knew he could use them.

I'm not, we aren't falling for the media. They ask dumb questions. Got nothing to do with us. We don't ask them to ask the stupid questions. We don't ask them to say stupid things. I don't at least.

The people saying the moronic things. Shaking your head in disbelief of what you just heard doesn't make you a moron.

Not trolling, just pointing out that you have control over what you want to hear and believe. Fans and players alike.

Again, don’t fall for the routine of management vs media. It’s a game. I laughed out loud when you mentioned Burke. He was a master of manipulation and he needed the media to do it. Come on, you remember all the back and forth. It was exhausting.

Media is only relevant because we allow it to be. We listen only when it pleases us. Pratt doesn’t have a job because he’s a sports genius. He has a job because he says things the majority like to hear. The more outrageous the better.

Who are the morons? People who say moronic things, or the people who listen?
- bloatedmosquito

Morons in the media, that's why he knew he could use them.

I'm not, we aren't falling for the media. They ask dumb questions. Got nothing to do with us. We don't ask them to ask the stupid questions. We don't ask them to say stupid things. I don't at least.

The people saying the moronic things. Shaking your head in disbelief of what you just heard doesn't make you a moron.
- manvanfan

Canucks just posted his media scrum. The kid handles the question like a pro "what did you think of the hit?" - "no comment". Does it make you want to go back to sweden?" - *death stare*, doesn't answer, turns away. Vancouver players think less of the media than we do.

Canucks just posted his media scrum. The kid handles the question like a pro "what did you think of the hit?" - "no comment". Does it make you want to go back to sweden?" - *death stare*, doesn't answer, turns away. Vancouver players think less of the media than we do.
- Codes1087

Exactly.

Back to hockey now. I said the difference of this team thanks to EP is the ability to come back when they get down. Yesterday down 2-1 and even 3-2 before EP got hurt they might have tied the game and have life again. they need another player that can give them not only that life again but that extra goal to get ahead.

Also stop taking so many penalties

Exactly.

Back to hockey now. I said the difference of this team thanks to EP is the ability to come back when they get down. Yesterday down 2-1 and even 3-2 before EP got hurt they might have tied the game and have life again. they need another player that can give them not only that life again but that extra goal to get ahead.

Also stop taking so many penalties
- manvanfan

If i say corsi people get mad. But i read that the canucks have by far, the worst shots for vs shots against at even strengthin the NHL. Paired with the fact that they are taking 4 minor penalties a game on average, it makes it hard to win with a bad overall D corps. Having said all that, they are still only -2 overall goal differential. They arent going to win games based on defense, they will more than likely win based off of high offense, which means we really need EP lol

If i say corsi people get mad. But i read that the canucks have by far, the worst shots for vs shots against at even strengthin the NHL. Paired with the fact that they are taking 4 minor penalties a game on average, it makes it hard to win with a bad overall D corps. Having said all that, they are still only -2 overall goal differential. They arent going to win games based on defense, they will more than likely win based off of high offense, which means we really need EP lol
- Codes1087

Corsi may not be perfect but it certainly says what Van is doing isn't a recipe for success. Going into 2nd and 3rd period tied or leading leads to more wins. Scoring first and more then your opponent helps. Scoring 2 goals a game and winning usually means a bit of luck and some good goaltending. If not then a it's usually a lose.

Team defence, good goaltending and scoring 3-4 is probably going to get them into the playoffs.

We want to hear EP speak, we are forced to listen to moronic questions from the media. Part of the process
- CanuckDon

Exactly. Sift through all the garbage to find the good information. We do it in most aspects of life. I work for the government. Do you know how many dumb questions I get daily? It’s overwhelming some times. But you move past it and find value where you can.

If you go through life thinking only morons ask dumb questions then you ain’t going to think much of humanity.

If i say corsi people get mad. But i read that the canucks have by far, the worst shots for vs shots against at even strengthin the NHL. Paired with the fact that they are taking 4 minor penalties a game on average, it makes it hard to win with a bad overall D corps. Having said all that, they are still only -2 overall goal differential. They arent going to win games based on defense, they will more than likely win based off of high offense, which means we really need EP lol
- Codes1087

What were you expecting this year?

I know they are exactly what I thought they would be. I wanted a team that would attack. I knew this year is a transition year for D. Beagle Sutter Horvat Roussel come as advertised. Pettersson exceeding expectations.

To me there is nothing surprising at all except EP.

What were you expecting this year?

I know they are exactly what I thought they would be. I wanted a team that would attack. I knew this year is a transition year for D. Beagle Sutter Horvat Roussel come as advertised. Pettersson exceeding expectations.

To me there is nothing surprising at all except EP.
- VANTEL

Goaltending?

What were you expecting this year?

I know they are exactly what I thought they would be. I wanted a team that would attack. I knew this year is a transition year for D. Beagle Sutter Horvat Roussel come as advertised. Pettersson exceeding expectations.

To me there is nothing surprising at all except EP.
- VANTEL

I wasn't expecting anything, no need to shoot the messenger, simply relaying information.

I want a competitive team, high scoring, rookies taking steps, players hopefully building off of a good year (boeser/horvat). I am not expecting wins, and I am not expecting the puck to stay out of our net (with our D and goaltending). They are exactly who I thought they would be, with the exception of winning 2 or 3 games that I would have written off as losses had they not blown me away and won (mainly tampa/boston)

Corsi may not be perfect but it certainly says what Van is doing isn't a recipe for success. Going into 2nd and 3rd period tied or leading leads to more wins. Scoring first and more then your opponent helps. Scoring 2 goals a game and winning usually means a bit of luck and some good goaltending. If not then a it's usually a lose.

Team defence, good goaltending and scoring 3-4 is probably going to get them into the playoffs.
- manvanfan

I definitely didn't post to dissect the relevance of corsi, but instead to point out that this team is definitely getting outplayed in all of the games they are playing.

As for the above, we know what we have in our two goalies, and we know what we have in our 7 D, they played for us last year, I don't think we make playoffs this year. I don't think we are an above .500 team if we don't change up both positions.

Goaltending?
- bloatedmosquito

I definitely didn't post to dissect the relevance of corsi, but instead to point out that this team is definitely getting outplayed in all of the games they are playing.

As for the above, we know what we have in our two goalies, and we know what we have in our 7 D, they played for us last year, I don't think we make playoffs this year. I don't think we are an above .500 team if we don't change up both positions.
- Codes1087

How have we been outplayed when we have more wins that loses?

How have we been outplayed when we have more wins that loses?
- VANTEL

If the team wins 3-2, but is outshot 40-23, are they being outplayed despite winning?

If the team wins 3-2, but is outshot 40-23, are they being outplayed despite winning?
- Codes1087

So if a team takes 40 shots from far out , then you are outplayed? Wouldn't quality of shots be more important? Scoring chances?

So if a team takes 40 shots from far out , then you are outplayed? Wouldn't quality of shots be more important?
- VANTEL

I should have never posted a analytical related tweet lol. I understand the variance involved. I wasnt trying to dissect grade A scoring chances vs shots from the blue line. I personally dont remember watching a single game where i thought the canucks were the better team, despite being outshot and winning. Difference of opinion only vantel

I should have never posted a analytical related tweet lol. I understand the variance involved. I wasnt trying to dissect grade A scoring chances vs shots from the blue line. I personally dont remember watching a single game where i thought the canucks were the better team, despite being outshot and winning. Difference of opinion only vantel
- Codes1087

I remember watching 7 of the nine games where I thought either team could have won.

Even against the SC champs Canucks went into the third period and scored which had them one goal down and then took two questionable penalties that the Caps scored on one of them.

i think you're both right

What were you expecting this year?

I know they are exactly what I thought they would be. I wanted a team that would attack. I knew this year is a transition year for D. Beagle Sutter Horvat Roussel come as advertised. Pettersson exceeding expectations.

To me there is nothing surprising at all except EP.
- VANTEL

Other than EP I'm surprised about Hutton.

i think you're both right
- BobBot

I dont think being outshot necessarily means being outplayed. Like vantel said, shots from the redline on net shouldnt be an indicator of who played better. The Canucks have been outshot in every game played this year, some by a handful of shots, some by upwards of 10. Shot totals aside, I still think the Canucks have been outplayed in all the games I have watched, outside of maybe the Home game VS Calgary where Mike Smith played pretty crappy. Having said all that, i still think the canucks are a bottom 5 team, regardless of having healthy forwards or not, our returning D and returning goalies are far too bad. Imo