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TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Oct 25 @ 5:12 PM ET
3-way Deal

TOR - Trouba
CAR - Nylander
WPG - Aho
Add in draft picks as required to balance the trade.

- bennythehat



This

I think Carolina might need a bit more to make this happen. Aho is an absolute stud.
LeafGuy89
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 05.13.2017

Oct 25 @ 5:22 PM ET
3-way Deal

TOR - Trouba
CAR - Nylander
WPG - Aho
Add in draft picks as required to balance the trade.

- bennythehat


Carolina would be dumb to do that.

Aho is one of the best young players in the league.
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Oct 25 @ 5:26 PM ET
If Myers was a sheltered, 3rd pairing dman whom was strategically used to murder 4th liners, I’d love him.

But he’s not. He’s over exposed and not good.

- Rexypoo



Yet you want to replace him with a 25 year Tucker Poolman who has 24 games total with 2 NHL points. Poolman is the same age as Trouba and I think if he was as good as some posters on this board believe he is, he would be in the NHL by now.

Just for comparison, Myers by 25 had 462 games played and 193 points.
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Oct 25 @ 5:42 PM ET
Yet you want to replace him with a 25 year Tucker Poolman who has 24 games total with 2 NHL points. Poolman is the same age as Trouba and I think if he was as good as some posters on this board believe he is, he would be in the NHL by now.

Just for comparison, Myers by 25 had 462 games played and 193 points.

- TheUltimateJet

Myers is a 3rd pair D, just because we play him like a top 4 is our fault. Myers will join the NHL's top 10 worst contracts by mid season next year. he is a 2-3 million dollar D who will be paid 5-6 on a long term deal. I pray it wont be us to make this mistake.
jetsnation
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 02.11.2015

Oct 25 @ 7:07 PM ET
3-way Deal

TOR - Trouba
CAR - Nylander
WPG - Aho
Add in draft picks as required to balance the trade.

- bennythehat


I love Aho and would do that deal to save cap space through Aho's RFA years but Carolina is super deep at defense. If anything they need to trade some away.

If were onto the improbable deal discussion then I'd love to trade Laine for either Barkov or even Trocheck ( plus some sweetener). Don't think Florida would ever consider it thought because of Barkov's and Trocheck's favorable contracts. Another would be Bergeron in Boston although he gets injured a lot. All three would make the Jets a much tougher team to play.

How about Trouba ,Niku, and a second for Taylor Hall. YOu could just write our name on the cup for the next two years. Thats actually a deal we could have done two years ago instead of Larsson.

If SJ doesn't make the playoffs then other free agent that would be an excellent 2nd center who come with skill, grit ,and leadership would be Joe Pavelski.
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Oct 25 @ 8:12 PM ET
Yet you want to replace him with a 25 year Tucker Poolman who has 24 games total with 2 NHL points. Poolman is the same age as Trouba and I think if he was as good as some posters on this board believe he is, he would be in the NHL by now.

Just for comparison, Myers by 25 had 462 games played and 193 points.

- TheUltimateJet


Poolman has better defence AND puck possession
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Oct 25 @ 8:13 PM ET
I love Aho and would do that deal to save cap space through Aho's RFA years but Carolina is super deep at defense. If anything they need to trade some away.

If were onto the improbable deal discussion then I'd love to trade Laine for either Barkov or even Trocheck ( plus some sweetener). Don't think Florida would ever consider it thought because of Barkov's and Trocheck's favorable contracts. Another would be Bergeron in Boston although he gets injured a lot. All three would make the Jets a much tougher team to play.

How about Trouba ,Niku, and a second for Taylor Hall. YOu could just write our name on the cup for the next two years. Thats actually a deal we could have done two years ago instead of Larsson.

If SJ doesn't make the playoffs then other free agent that would be an excellent 2nd center who come with skill, grit ,and leadership would be Joe Pavelski.

- jetsnation


Probably a good idea to trade your #1 dman, and your current top prospect for a 6th top line winger older than both, even if he would be your best winger
Byfuglien Ate Me
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burger King
Joined: 09.24.2010

Oct 25 @ 11:58 PM ET


I expect a better showing than that on Saturday night from the Jets. They seem flat and disinterested for the most part to start the year.

Through this first stretch, Team Eye Test would like to hang a toilet seat on Little, Trouba, Wheeler, Laine and PeeMo. Not good enough.

Little and Trouba for Hendricks and Brodin would right the ship.
Dcdaddy
Joined: 05.04.2018

Oct 26 @ 9:28 AM ET
I expect a better showing than that on Saturday night from the Jets. They seem flat and disinterested for the most part to start the year.

Through this first stretch, Team Eye Test would like to hang a toilet seat on Little, Trouba, Wheeler, Laine and PeeMo. Not good enough.

Little and Trouba for Hendricks and Brodin would right the ship.

- Byfuglien Ate Me

I agree with your assessment of the Jets looking flat and disinterested for much of the year. I'm not sure how quickly this switch can be flipped and am worried that we come out of Finland looking like last years Ottawa Senators
jetsnation
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 02.11.2015

Oct 26 @ 10:17 AM ET
I agree with your assessment of the Jets looking flat and disinterested for much of the year. I'm not sure how quickly this switch can be flipped and am worried that we come out of Finland looking like last years Ottawa Senators
- Dcdaddy


There seems to be a lot of panic after a 4-2 loss to the Leafs. Its just a hockey game where a bounce here or there and it could have been a different result. Jets had lots of close chances. I didn't think the Leafs dominated the Jets but rather they had a good game defensively. I don't lose sleep over 4-2 games. I would be losing sleep though if we lost 9-1 to the Pens like Calgary did last night or weren't scoring enough goals like LA or Vegas. The time to make an assessment at 20 games.
jetsnation
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 02.11.2015

Oct 26 @ 10:19 AM ET
I expect a better showing than that on Saturday night from the Jets. They seem flat and disinterested for the most part to start the year.

Through this first stretch, Team Eye Test would like to hang a toilet seat on Little, Trouba, Wheeler, Laine and PeeMo. Not good enough.

Little and Trouba for Hendricks and Brodin would right the ship.

- Byfuglien Ate Me


Saturday is the back end of back-to-back games for Winnipeg. Its going to be tough for them to win that one while on the road and against a very good team. I wouldn't set your expectations too high on that game.
bennythehat
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 03.23.2015

Oct 26 @ 12:11 PM ET
Probably a good idea to trade your #1 dman, and your current top prospect for a 6th top line winger older than both, even if he would be your best winger
- Rexypoo


Who said anything about trading Morrissey ?
CorydonKeith
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 01.22.2014

Oct 26 @ 12:30 PM ET
Brossoit starts tonight

This to me is a warm-up for tomorrow
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Oct 26 @ 1:11 PM ET
Who said anything about trading Morrissey ?
- bennythehat


He’s closing the gap REAL FAST, but he’s not better than Trouba
Byfuglien Ate Me
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burger King
Joined: 09.24.2010

Oct 26 @ 1:18 PM ET
I agree with your assessment of the Jets looking flat and disinterested for much of the year. I'm not sure how quickly this switch can be flipped and am worried that we come out of Finland looking like last years Ottawa Senators
- Dcdaddy


I agree with your take on the difficulty of just flipping the switch. That's why I suggested bringing back Hendricks. Look at what happened to the Oil when they made the conference final then let Hendy walk. Team just didn't seem to ever get on the same page and has played flat, uninspired hockey since.

There is an undeniable Value to Glue Guys like Hendricks. I think the Jets really miss him.
jetsnation
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 02.11.2015

Oct 26 @ 1:33 PM ET
I agree with your take on the difficulty of just flipping the switch. That's why I suggested bringing back Hendricks. Look at what happened to the Oil when they made the conference final then let Hendy walk. Team just didn't seem to ever get on the same page and has played flat, uninspired hockey since.

There is an undeniable Value to Glue Guys like Hendricks. I think the Jets really miss him.

- Byfuglien Ate Me


Its an intangible that a lot of people just don't seem to understand, although there are quite a few smart hockey fans on this board because it came out in the poll that posters valued intangibles very highly compared to analytics....and they should . Our wish was that Hendricks might find a role somewhere in the coaching staff but of course, he still wanted to play and there was just not any room on the roster. I often wonder if the Jets would have gone three rounds without Hendricks revving up that room every night even though he wasn't playing. Buff provides a lot of leadership and so does Wheeler. There are others. I guess they learned a lot from Hendricks and thought it was enough to take the ball and run with it.
Byfuglien Ate Me
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burger King
Joined: 09.24.2010

Oct 26 @ 2:11 PM ET
Its an intangible that a lot of people just don't seem to understand, although there are quite a few smart hockey fans on this board because it came out in the poll that posters valued intangibles very highly compared to analytics....and they should . Our wish was that Hendricks might find a role somewhere in the coaching staff but of course, he still wanted to play and there was just not any room on the roster. I often wonder if the Jets would have gone three rounds without Hendricks revving up that room every night even though he wasn't playing. Buff provides a lot of leadership and so does Wheeler. There are others. I guess they learned a lot from Hendricks and thought it was enough to take the ball and run with it.
- jetsnation


Well said, I can see why they thought the leadership in house was sufficient. Maybe it is. Hendy played hard nosed and heavy. He would drag guys into the battle with him. Is there still a place for that player now days? I think so.
Poulin and Ferraro had an interesting discussion on Overdrive yesterday about the possibility of a team bucking the current trend in the future and going back to a heavy and mean team.
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Oct 26 @ 2:53 PM ET
I agree with your take on the difficulty of just flipping the switch. That's why I suggested bringing back Hendricks. Look at what happened to the Oil when they made the conference final then let Hendy walk. Team just didn't seem to ever get on the same page and has played flat, uninspired hockey since.

There is an undeniable Value to Glue Guys like Hendricks. I think the Jets really miss him.

- Byfuglien Ate Me


Good lord, they definitely didn’t legalize whatever you’ve got going on there
sparky1957
Location: winnipeg, MB
Joined: 11.03.2016

Oct 26 @ 2:54 PM ET
A heavy and mean team could win the cup. Oh yea!! that's us, but we have not played either this year. Time for the boys to start hitting and playing mean. Toronto game, there were virtually no body check's. Teams like Toronto can be pushed around.
IMHO
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Oct 26 @ 2:56 PM ET
Its an intangible that a lot of people just don't seem to understand, although there are quite a few smart hockey fans on this board because it came out in the poll that posters valued intangibles very highly compared to analytics....and they should . Our wish was that Hendricks might find a role somewhere in the coaching staff but of course, he still wanted to play and there was just not any room on the roster. I often wonder if the Jets would have gone three rounds without Hendricks revving up that room every night even though he wasn't playing. Buff provides a lot of leadership and so does Wheeler. There are others. I guess they learned a lot from Hendricks and thought it was enough to take the ball and run with it.
- jetsnation


The guy had never seen meaningful playoff time in his entire career before last season, was a healthy scratch for most of it, and has been let go by every time he’s ever played for. #value.

I have it on good authority the Chipman’s didn’t like his actual play, AKA the thing that matters
bennythehat
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 03.23.2015

Oct 26 @ 4:11 PM ET
The guy had never seen meaningful playoff time in his entire career before last season, was a healthy scratch for most of it, and has been let go by every time he’s ever played for. #value.

I have it on good authority the Chipman’s didn’t like his actual play, AKA the thing that matters

- Rexypoo



Dano shouldn't let things slip like that.
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Oct 26 @ 4:16 PM ET
Dano shouldn't let things slip like that.
- bennythehat


A for effort, F- for execution
Byfuglien Ate Me
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burger King
Joined: 09.24.2010

Oct 26 @ 4:17 PM ET
Good lord, they definitely didn’t legalize whatever you’ve got going on there
- Rexypoo


I guess I shouldn't dig in and bury my head in the sand defending a player I think is undervalued by others.

I mean, who does that?
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Oct 26 @ 4:46 PM ET
https://twitter.com/tony_.../1055886482328694784?s=21

Can we just admit we’re in trouble, call up Niku and The Poolman, and waive Chiarot and Morrow already?
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Oct 26 @ 4:48 PM ET
I guess I shouldn't dig in and bury my head in the sand defending a player I think is undervalued by others.

I mean, who does that?

- Byfuglien Ate Me


I like this.
I don’t agree with it, I don’t accept it, but it made me chuckle at my own expense.

That said, Matt Hendricks has been a positive impact player in exactly one of his NHL seasons, and only the latter half of said season was even in this decade
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