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jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Oct 25 @ 4:22 PM ET
Well your team wasn't supposed to beat down the league either , just sick of other teams fans putting down a team or their players with so much parity nowadays , any team can beat any team on any given night and the team that ultimately wins the cup has to have a lot go well for them along with having good players , cant we all just realize that we love our hockey ALL OF HOCKEY and we should enjoy it because every team has good players and realize that ...
- toneez


That's not what I was going for at all. The Sabres are playing at home, against a back-up goalie, after a few days of rest, against a team that was not supposed to be a playoff team. This is a game that the Sabres should win, which is different than guaranteeing a win. I would say the same thing no matter the logo the Sabres are lining up against. Carey Price has the ability to singlehandedly win a game, and the Sabres don't have to deal with that
LandlordTom
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Ice girls, please, NY
Joined: 07.16.2011

Oct 25 @ 4:23 PM ET
F the Habs


Sabres 5-3. Dahlin with the game winner. Domi gets benched for the third period because Coach catches him playing Fortnite on his phone while on the bench.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Oct 25 @ 4:24 PM ET
Well your team wasn't supposed to beat down the league either , just sick of other teams fans putting down a team or their players with so much parity nowadays , any team can beat any team on any given night and the team that ultimately wins the cup has to have a lot go well for them along with having good players , cant we all just realize that we love our hockey ALL OF HOCKEY and we should enjoy it because every team has good players and realize that ...
- toneez


Why are you acting like something objectionable was said here?
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Oct 25 @ 4:24 PM ET
That's not what I was going for at all. The Sabres are playing at home, against a back-up goalie, after a few days of rest, against a team that was not supposed to be a playoff team. This is a game that the Sabres should win, which is different than guaranteeing a win. I would say the same thing no matter the logo the Sabres are lining up against. Carey Price has the ability to singlehandedly win a game, and the Sabres don't have to deal with that
- jcragcrumple

But will Price PAY THE PRICE?
LandlordTom
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Ice girls, please, NY
Joined: 07.16.2011

Oct 25 @ 4:25 PM ET
I f-ing hate the ?*&%$#ing red shirt treatment, btw.

F Independent Health
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Oct 25 @ 4:28 PM ET
Well your team wasn't supposed to beat down the league either , just sick of other teams fans putting down a team or their players with so much parity nowadays , any team can beat any team on any given night and the team that ultimately wins the cup has to have a lot go well for them along with having good players , cant we all just realize that we love our hockey ALL OF HOCKEY and we should enjoy it because every team has good players and realize that ...
- toneez


Yeah, wrong tree. I like the Sabres. Rest of you can get bent.

Seriously though, you guys are overachieving, it's a good thing, enjoy it! We may be too, I'm enjoying it.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Oct 25 @ 4:29 PM ET
And the team just ahead of the Bills, the super ready Josh Rosen led Cardinals.
- Wetbandit1


Interesting article on The Athletic about the factors whick impact the likelihood of young QB's realizing success by Year 3...factors in order of importance
-Quality of Offensive Coordinator
-Quality of OL
-Head Coach/Team Culture
-Quality of Recievers
-Quality of Defense

Each factor for several young QB's were evaluated, with each given a score between 1-5
Josh Allen was rated in the middle with around 15 of 25 points, OC, HC/Culture and D rated relatively high, WR very low.
....Seems pretty accurate

Rosen in AZ was worst, Mahomes and Trubisky were the highest. Darnold was a big higher than Allen, while Mayfield was lower.

The ratings did NOT evauate the QB themseves, only contributing factors.
adambuffalo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 01.30.2007

Oct 25 @ 4:35 PM ET


hehateme
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 04.11.2017

Oct 25 @ 4:37 PM ET

- adambuffalo


WHAT DOES THAT SAY?
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Oct 25 @ 4:46 PM ET
Interesting article on The Athletic about the factors whick impact the likelihood of young QB's realizing success by Year 3...factors in order of importance
-Quality of Offensive Coordinator
-Quality of OL
-Head Coach/Team Culture
-Quality of Recievers
-Quality of Defense

Each factor for several young QB's were evaluated, with each given a score between 1-5
Josh Allen was rated in the middle with around 15 of 25 points, OC, HC/Culture and D rated relatively high, WR very low.
....Seems pretty accurate

Rosen in AZ was worst, Mahomes and Trubisky were the highest. Darnold was a big higher than Allen, while Mayfield was lower.

The ratings did NOT evauate the QB themseves, only contributing factors.

- IonSabres


Interesting way to look at it
TheHank
Location: Yawn.
Joined: 01.11.2017

Oct 25 @ 4:47 PM ET

- adambuffalo

Wonder if they did that on purpose
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Oct 25 @ 4:48 PM ET
And the team just ahead of the Bills, the super ready Josh Rosen led Cardinals.
- Wetbandit1


Rosen > Allen

Arguing otherwise is futal
Unless youโ€™re super impress by games where a QB throws for UNDER 100yds
๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Oct 25 @ 4:59 PM ET
Rosen > Allen

Arguing otherwise is futal
Unless youโ€™re super impress by games where a QB throws for UNDER 100yds
๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

- jdfitz77


Rosen and Allen are both awful. One is not better than the other.

Not to mention Rosen has David Johnson, an older but still cagey Fitz and a better OL. They are both struggling mightily.
SabreWest
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BC
Joined: 03.02.2015

Oct 25 @ 5:01 PM ET
Sabres pound the crap out of Montreal tonight 6 - 2. Literally and figuratively. Rhino 2, Jack, Okposo, Skinner and Girgs! Bogo drops with a left-hook and then rips off his sweater and shoulder pads like the Hulk.
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Oct 25 @ 5:05 PM ET
Sabres pound the crap out of Montreal tonight 6 - 2. Literally and figuratively. Rhino 2, Jack, Okposo, Skinner and Girgs! Bogo drops with a left-hook and then rips off his sweater and shoulder pads like the Hulk.
- SabreWest

Gets injured and sits 20 games.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Oct 25 @ 5:09 PM ET
Rosen and Allen are both awful. One is not better than the other.

Not to mention Rosen has David Johnson, an older but still cagey Fitz and a better OL. They are both struggling mightily.

- RhinoFan


Well even if u do wanna argue that...
any struggles that Rosen (or any other rookie QB) may be having,
donโ€™t have any bearing on Josh Allen and his development or lack there of

Banditโ€™s constant comparisonโ€™s are just a distraction at best
And really just quite irrelevant

Hopefully Allen can digest what heโ€™s seen so far & apply that when he gets back in
Bc if he doesnโ€™t work out,
we are gonna be starting all over again in a couple years
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Oct 25 @ 5:30 PM ET
And the team just ahead of the Bills, the super ready Josh Rosen led Cardinals.
- Wetbandit1

I find your arguments to be shallow and pedantic.

IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Oct 25 @ 5:47 PM ET
Gets injured and sits 20 games.
- jochfr

homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Oct 25 @ 6:08 PM ET
WHAT DOES THAT SAY?
- hehateme

we need to watch the tape first
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Oct 25 @ 6:26 PM ET
Well even if u do wanna argue that...
any struggles that Rosen (or any other rookie QB) may be having,
donโ€™t have any bearing on Josh Allen and his development or lack there of

Banditโ€™s constant comparisonโ€™s are just a distraction at best
And really just quite irrelevant

Hopefully Allen can digest what heโ€™s seen so far & apply that when he gets back in
Bc if he doesnโ€™t work out,
we are gonna be starting all over again in a couple years

- jdfitz77


You are correct in that there is no direct bearing.
However, both Josh's are in fact impacted by substandard environments in which to perform.
Both of them are in far from optimal conditions concerning their developmental environment.
Rosen's maybe more severe as his management team is a mess.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Oct 25 @ 6:29 PM ET
Well your team wasn't supposed to beat down the league either , just sick of other teams fans putting down a team or their players with so much parity nowadays , any team can beat any team on any given night and the team that ultimately wins the cup has to have a lot go well for them along with having good players , cant we all just realize that we love our hockey ALL OF HOCKEY and we should enjoy it because every team has good players and realize that ...
- toneez



Nope, suck it.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Oct 25 @ 6:30 PM ET
Interesting article on The Athletic about the factors whick impact the likelihood of young QB's realizing success by Year 3...factors in order of importance
-Quality of Offensive Coordinator
-Quality of OL
-Head Coach/Team Culture
-Quality of Recievers
-Quality of Defense


Each factor for several young QB's were evaluated, with each given a score between 1-5
Josh Allen was rated in the middle with around 15 of 25 points, OC, HC/Culture and D rated relatively high, WR very low.
....Seems pretty accurate

Rosen in AZ was worst, Mahomes and Trubisky were the highest. Darnold was a big higher than Allen, while Mayfield was lower.

The ratings did NOT evauate the QB themseves, only contributing factors.

- IonSabres


That feels right.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Oct 25 @ 6:31 PM ET
WHAT DOES THAT SAY?
- hehateme


It's amazing how your brain fills in the blanks, I didn't notice it was wrong until your comment.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Oct 25 @ 6:31 PM ET
Rosen > Allen

Arguing otherwise is futal
Unless youโ€™re super impress by games where a QB throws for UNDER 100yds
๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

- jdfitz77



Go futal yourself.
seedy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: you don't need an ignore button to ignore someone., CA
Joined: 02.22.2007

Oct 25 @ 6:32 PM ET
Bogo drops with a left-hook...
- SabreWest


Drops what? The Mic?
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