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manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Oct 28 @ 11:59 AM ET
IMO just my thoughts I don't view Baertchi as a top 6 player. Only reason he could be considered top 6 is the fact that he really has only played on non-playoff teams. His current #'s for any top 20 club parks him as a career third liner. Never played over 70 games per season and never broke 40 pts and probably never will. To me that is solid third line material.
- LordHumungous

I think we underrate players beyond a certain point. Last season Washington had Eller, Wilson, Burakowsky all score in the bottom part of 2nd line range. Lower then Baertschi. They also only had 4 forwards score at a higher rate then Baertschi.

Last season only forwards 151 players broke 40 points. You can do the math. That's within a top 6 scoring rate.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Oct 28 @ 12:00 PM ET
The curse continues , slipped on a banana peel
- Bettmanhatesus



Just keep repeating Kaapo Kakko over and over it will ease the pain.
Bettmanhatesus
Joined: 08.10.2016

Oct 28 @ 12:00 PM ET
Half of Van's D was beyond bad.
- manvanfan

Good 30 minutes, frustrating the pens it showed, couldn't bury some chances they did in the second half of the 2nd period game over.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Oct 28 @ 12:03 PM ET
I think we underrate players beyond a certain point. Last season Washington had Eller, Wilson, Burakowsky all score in the bottom part of 2nd line range. Lower then Baertschi. They also only had 4 forwards score at a higher rate then Baertschi.

Last season only forwards 151 players broke 40 points. You can do the math. That's within a top 6 scoring rate.

- manvanfan



They also had OV Backstrom KUZNETSOV Oshie
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Oct 28 @ 12:07 PM ET
I think we underrate players beyond a certain point. Last season Washington had Eller, Wilson, Burakowsky all score in the bottom part of 2nd line range. Lower then Baertschi. They also only had 4 forwards score at a higher rate then Baertschi.

Last season only forwards 151 players broke 40 points. You can do the math. That's within a top 6 scoring rate.

- manvanfan

For a smaller player Baertschi doesn't score enough for a smaller player to be an effective playoff player imo.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Oct 28 @ 12:07 PM ET
They also had OV Backstrom KUZNETSOV Oshie
- VANTEL

I don't get it, do you see 6 players there?
Bettmanhatesus
Joined: 08.10.2016

Oct 28 @ 12:10 PM ET
Just keep repeating Kaapo Kakko over and over it will ease the pain.
- VANTEL

Can they call up mikey?
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Oct 28 @ 12:10 PM ET
For a smaller player Baertschi doesn't score enough for a smaller player to be an effective playoff player imo.
- LeftCoaster

No idea what he is going to bring in the playoffs. He is listed 5 lbs lighter then T.J. Oshie.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Oct 28 @ 12:14 PM ET
They also had OV Backstrom KUZNETSOV Oshie
- VANTEL

Four of their top five playoff scores were all first round picks, two of them late first round picks

Kuznetsov - 32 points in 24 games
Ovechkin - 27 points in 24 games
Backstrom - 23 points in 20 games
Oshie - 21 points in 24 games
Carlson - 20 points in 24 games

Health obviously played a big factor in their success.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Oct 28 @ 12:15 PM ET
No idea what he is going to bring in the playoffs. He is listed 5 lbs lighter then T.J. Oshie.
- manvanfan

He's not physical enough imo, Oshie is on the other hand. Baertschi is soft like Benning's brain
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Oct 28 @ 12:16 PM ET
Four of their top five playoff scores were all first round picks, two of them late first round picks

Kuznetsov - 32 points in 24 games
Ovechkin - 27 points in 24 games
Backstrom - 23 points in 20 games
Oshie - 21 points in 24 games
Carlson - 20 points in 24 games

Health obviously played a big factor in their success.

- LeftCoaster

So what you are saying is Van needs a first overall pick and they will win a cup?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Oct 28 @ 12:16 PM ET
No idea what he is going to bring in the playoffs. He is listed 5 lbs lighter then T.J. Oshie.
- manvanfan


I doubt he will ever see the NHL playoffs
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Oct 28 @ 12:18 PM ET
So what you are saying is Van needs a first overall pick and they will win a cup?
- manvanfan

If he's even a tier below generational I'd say they'll have a good opportunity #HenrikSedin
TJTD
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 02.06.2007

Oct 28 @ 12:21 PM ET
So what you are saying is Van needs a first overall pick and they will win a cup?
- manvanfan

They need a good coaching staff. Trotz is a great coach, so is Gallant which allows teams to succeed. Playing favourites like Pouliot and making Suter the poster boy of the ultimate player makes for a crappie team.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Oct 28 @ 12:22 PM ET
He's not physical enough imo, Oshie is on the other hand. Baertschi is soft like Benning's brain
- LeftCoaster

They aren't the same type of player for being the same size.

If you shrink the size to 5'10"-5'11" 185 lbs and up for hits in the NHL right now. Tyler Motte has the most. Baertschi is 37th and Goldobin is 52nd out of 53.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Oct 28 @ 12:23 PM ET
If he's even a tier below generational I'd say they'll have a good opportunity #HenrikSedin
- LeftCoaster

Jack Hughes is going to be real good, everyone behind him has size. A top 5 would do the team wonders.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Oct 28 @ 12:26 PM ET
Missing the World Series, looks like Boston will win again. Hopefully one day the Canucks curse will end gloriously like the Red Sox has
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Oct 28 @ 12:29 PM ET
Super Sports Equinox....

All five sports leagues play today in Los Angeles, just saw this, first time ever.

Kings
Dodgers
Rams
Clippers
Galaxy
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Oct 28 @ 12:29 PM ET
Missing the World Series, looks like Boston will win again. Hopefully one day the Canucks curse will end gloriously like the Red Sox has
- LeftCoaster



The real city of Champions
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Oct 28 @ 12:29 PM ET
They need a good coaching staff. Trotz is a great coach, so is Gallant which allows teams to succeed. Playing favourites like Pouliot and making Suter the poster boy of the ultimate player makes for a crappie team.
- TJTD

Travis Green is a useless tool.
Pouliot & Eriksson are his favourite players.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Oct 28 @ 12:31 PM ET
Super Sports Equinox....

All five sports leagues play today in Los Angeles, just saw this, first time ever.

Kings
Dodgers
Rams
Clippers
Galaxy

- LeftCoaster

Well, I guess that if you were a 'Real Housewife of LA' that might be relevant.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Oct 28 @ 12:32 PM ET
Travis Green is a useless tool.
Pouliot & Eriksson are his favourite players.

- Marwood

May as well give LE a regular shift because of his defensive prowess...

5-0 Pens.!

Bettmanhatesus
Joined: 08.10.2016

Oct 28 @ 12:33 PM ET
Travis Green is a useless tool.
Pouliot & Eriksson are his favourite players.

- Marwood

One is trying to find his way and struggling similar to Justin Shultz with the oilers, and the other he is forced to play because of his contract.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Oct 28 @ 12:33 PM ET
Missing the World Series, looks like Boston will win again. Hopefully one day the Canucks curse will end gloriously like the Red Sox has
- LeftCoaster

3 years away?

lol
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Oct 28 @ 12:33 PM ET
Well, I guess that if you were a 'Real Housewife of LA' that might be relevant.
- Marwood

Its sporting history you old dope smoking hippie, get with the program or GFY.
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