Nobody showed up even when Arizona even made the playoffs. At least in TB if they do well people show up.

14,751 for attendance to Arizona games.
19,092 for TB games.
- manvanfan

having a hometown franchise player would probably help a little



why did Bettman let Tavares leave the Island for Toronto?

Nobody showed up even when Arizona even made the playoffs. At least in TB if they do well people show up.

14,751 for attendance to Arizona games.
19,092 for TB games.
- manvanfan

i'll say this for the fans in Arizona, the fans there and the atmosphere was better than either of the Canucks games I went to last year. The fans that show up know their poop and give a real poop about the team.

Also didn't hear one Coyote fan confuse free agency, trade and draft when talking about how a player was acquired.

having a hometown franchise player would probably help a little



why did Bettman let Tavares leave the Island for Toronto?
- Nucker101

So the Islander wouldn't need to build a new building for Tavares?

So the Islander wouldn't need to build a new building for Tavares?
- manvanfan

Makes sense. But why didn't he make Tavares sign in Tampa, Carolina or SJ over Toronto?

We should trsde Pettersson for Gritty
- CanuckDon

Fin vs Gritty in a ladder match for custody of Pettersson

"toronto makes a tonne of cash and the listless souls of winnipeg who have nothing better to do than shop ta dollarama like the Jets"

the CFL won't consider QC and when they had the World Championships there a few years ago nobody gave a (frank) in QC either.

its a smaller more racist market than winnipeg. good luck retaining any players who reach FA.
- Lindenis#1

Wow, sounds like you have had bad experiences while visiting Quebec City or even Quebec as a province.

i'll say this for the fans in Arizona, the fans there and the atmosphere was better than either of the Canucks games I went to last year. The fans that show up know their poop and give a real poop about the team.

Also didn't hear one Coyote fan confuse free agency, trade and draft when talking about how a player was acquired.
- Lindenis#1

I've only seen 5 games in Vancouver but they were a good team back then. Still wasn't loud or anything. Winnipeg is way better.

Van fans are just so sad about everything. Lot of whiners.

Wow, sounds like you have had bad experiences while visiting Quebec City or even Quebec as a province.
- Makita

No idea why but mayo with fries in Quebec is just better then anywhere else. Never had it, tried it, fell in love. Got home, tried it, nope it sucked. Went back and it was (frank)en awesome again, come home and nope nothing, sucks again.

Makes sense. But why didn't he make Tavares sign in Tampa, Carolina or SJ over Toronto?
- Nucker101

He just awarded Carolina with 2nd place in the lotto. SJ was getting Karlsson. Tampa Bay has been helped out enough.

Makes sense. But why didn't he make Tavares sign in Tampa, Carolina or SJ over Toronto?
- Nucker101

He knew it should create salary cap trouble in toronto and that more talented players would leave due to a lack of money.
Same reason he made Benning sign beagle to that ridiculous cap hit.

I've only seen 5 games in Vancouver but they were a good team back then. Still wasn't loud or anything. Winnipeg is way better.

Van fans are just so sad about everything. Lot of whiners.
- manvanfan

The crowds were great when the team was good, but its a dreadful experience sitting next to a guy in a knockoff Bieksa sweater talk about how "The Canucks actually got Stecher in the Gudbranson trade too. No one seems to acknowledge that so when you consider they got two top pairing D out of the trades its a great deal!" while being told "SHHH!" by the ushers for trying to get some noise during the game when the fans weren't asked by the big screen to "MAKE SOME NOISE!!!!1!"

He just awarded Carolina with 2nd place in the lotto. SJ was getting Karlsson. Tampa Bay has been helped out enough.
- manvanfan

Why the hell is he helping one of the most wealthy Canadian teams? Goes against his entire plan.

He knew it should create salary cap trouble in toronto and that more talented players would leave due to a lack of money.
Same reason he made Benning sign beagle to that ridiculous cap hit.
- Pres.cup

didn't you hear? Imac said that Beagle is the team's best defensive forward so it must be true despite all the evidence to the contrary.

The crowds were great when the team was good, but its a dreadful experience sitting next to a guy in a knockoff Bieksa sweater talk about how "The Canucks actually got Stecher in the Gudbranson trade too. No one seems to acknowledge that so when you consider they got two top pairing D out of the trades its a great deal!" while being told "SHHH!" by the ushers for trying to get some noise during the game when the fans weren't asked by the big screen to "MAKE SOME NOISE!!!!1!"
- Lindenis#1

Riot.

He knew it should create salary cap trouble in toronto and that more talented players would leave due to a lack of money.
Same reason he made Benning sign beagle to that ridiculous cap hit.
- Pres.cup

But Tavares left money on the table, he could've forced Dubas to pay at least 500K more per year.

Why the hell is he helping one of the most wealthy Canadian teams? Goes against his entire plan.
- Nucker101

Toronto not going to win the cup.

The crowds were great when the team was good, but its a dreadful experience sitting next to a guy in a knockoff Bieksa sweater talk about how "The Canucks actually got Stecher in the Gudbranson trade too. No one seems to acknowledge that so when you consider they got two top pairing D out of the trades its a great deal!" while being told "SHHH!" by the ushers for trying to get some noise during the game when the fans weren't asked by the big screen to "MAKE SOME NOISE!!!!1!"
- Lindenis#1

yeah, one of the biggest problems is how the security guards tell rowdy fans to shut up

Toronto not going to win the cup.
- manvanfan

Still doesn't make sense, Tavares could help a lot of American teams


Bettman is terrible at GM'ing his own league. What an idiot.

I hate Boston teams.
Baseball needs a hard cap. Boston's cap is 228 million. Tampa Bay's is 68.

Still doesn't make sense, Tavares could help a lot of American teams


Bettman is terrible at GM'ing his own league. What an idiot.
- Nucker101

Has he helped the NYI?

Yes, Bettman is an idiot.

I hate Boston teams.
Baseball needs a hard cap. Boston's cap is 228 million. Tampa Bay's is 68.
- manvanfan

I honestly don't know anyone under the age of 30 who is a diehard MLB fan, just some friends that are casual Jays fans(and that's only because they used to play softball/baseball).


NHL, NFL and NBA fans for sure.

Has he helped the NYI?

Yes, Bettman is an idiot.
- manvanfan

Ahhh good point, my bad.


Maybe we should cheer Bettman at the draft next year and he'll give us Bobrovsky, Karlsson and Trouba?

yeah, one of the biggest problems is how the security guards tell rowdy fans to shut up
- Nucker101

Its really frustrating when people are like "Sit up top. That's where the rEaL fAnS ArE!"

*sits up top*

*has cardboard drum confiscated during first period trying to chant "GO Canucks GO!"*

"derp derp the drum derp derp not allowed derp makes noise derp noise bad and disturbs this persons nap derp"

Then why did I get to bring it through security at the entrance? The (frank) else was I going to do with it?

I spent my money on Whitecaps, Canadian's and Lions tickets this year. I'll go see the Canucks on the road if I want to. Sick of Rogers Arena, although the food options are probably the best of any arena I've been to.

Ahhh good point, my bad.


Maybe we should cheer Bettman at the draft next year and he'll give us Bobrovsky, Karlsson and Trouba?
- Nucker101

Getting a bit greedy now Nucker.

Ahhh good point, my bad.


Maybe we should cheer Bettman at the draft next year and he'll give us Bobrovsky, Karlsson and Trouba?
- Nucker101

I have a dream where the Canucks are picking like... 4th or 5th at the draft. Bob Burnham or whatever that kid's name is is still on the board.

Canucks trade the pick and Guddy for Trouba+extension.