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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Nov 1 @ 3:11 PM ET
Hah I can partially relate. Konecny is mine.
- flyer_nutter


Mine is Mike Richards.

FREE MIKE RICHARDS!!!
FreshFlyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.17.2011

Nov 1 @ 3:11 PM ET
Meh, I get it - he's your boy. All good.

I just would rather trade him and get back something of value instead of giving a nice sized contract to a guy likely to decline. A guy that has for the most part been pretty meh in puck/transition skill.

- flyer_nutter


I'd much rather see the Flyers take a run at signing Duchene this off season than resigning Simmonds. I like what Simmonds brings but they can use the cap space to bring in a player that makes more of an impact and creates plays.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Nov 1 @ 3:12 PM ET
Hah I can partially relate. Konecny is mine.
- flyer_nutter


I'm weird, I don't have a favorite. I just want everyone to be successful so the team wins.

But if I did have one, NoPa.....those rosy cheeks remind me of Ricci.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Nov 1 @ 3:14 PM ET
Mine is Mike Richards.

FREE MIKE RICHARDS!!!

- jmatchett383


I put so much blame on Stevens for letting that whole poon gang get away with the partying/booze in their early years. Lava came in trying to establish a bit more of a "pro" culture, but it seemed to be a bit too late.

I am going to be slightly giddy when John gets fired in LA. (frank) him.
FreshFlyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.17.2011

Nov 1 @ 3:14 PM ET
Mine is Mike Richards.

FREE MIKE RICHARDS!!!

- jmatchett383


Always wanted to see him try and make a comeback but I understand why he hasn't. The dude literally won all there is to win in hockey. 2 Cups, a gold medal, a calder cup, and a memorial cup. That's a crazy impressive hockey resume not too many guys ever even accomplish half of that list.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Nov 1 @ 3:14 PM ET
I'd much rather see the Flyers take a run at signing Duchene this off season than resigning Simmonds. I like what Simmonds brings but they can use the cap space to bring in a player that makes more of an impact and creates plays.
- FreshFlyer


I'd go after Panarin.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Nov 1 @ 3:15 PM ET
Always wanted to see him try and make a comeback but I understand why he hasn't. The dude literally won all there is to win in hockey. 2 Cups, a gold medal, a calder cup, and a memorial cup. That's a crazy impressive hockey resume not too many guys ever even accomplish half of that list.
- FreshFlyer


He played hard, and had fun off the ice. Made his millions and gets to sit back and enjoy it fishing whenever he wants.

Bastard.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Nov 1 @ 3:17 PM ET
Okay, so counting up all the goals in the last seven years, puck throwing puck into net, who has had the most?
- SuperSchennBros


2017-18 Simmonds: 24 goals 46 Points - 11 of those goals are PP and 17 points are PP

So without PP time he has 13 Goals 29 points. Thats in the ball park of Fillpula 33 points and Raffl 22 points

2016-17 Simmonds: 31 G 54 P - 16 PPG 25 PPP - 15 Goals and 29 points at EVSTR

That was on par with a rookie Konecny with 10 less games played

2015-16 Simmonds: 32 G 60 P - 13 PPG 21 PPP - Thats 19 G 39 P at EVSTR.

Closest player is Raffl at 29 points(31 minus 2 PPP)

2014-15 Simmonds: 29 G 60 P 15 PPG 24 PPP - 14 G 36 points at EVSTR

On par with Matt Read 38 P(40 minus 2 PPP)

To summarize. Take away his PP Time and he is no better than a 3rd line player. He is basically Raffl with PP time and no concept of defense or puck possession
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Nov 1 @ 3:17 PM ET
Always wanted to see him try and make a comeback but I understand why he hasn't. The dude literally won all there is to win in hockey. 2 Cups, a gold medal, a calder cup, and a memorial cup. That's a crazy impressive hockey resume not too many guys ever even accomplish half of that list.
- FreshFlyer


You forgot that he captained Canada to its first WJC gold medal in 8 years, its longest drought ever.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Nov 1 @ 3:18 PM ET
2017-18 Simmonds: 24 goals 46 Points - 11 of those goals are PP and 17 points are PP

So without PP time he has 13 Goals 29 points. Thats in the ball park of Fillpula 33 points and Raffl 22 points

2016-17 Simmonds: 31 G 54 P - 16 PPG 25 PPP - 15 Goals and 29 points at EVSTR

That was on par with a rookie Konecny with 10 less games played

2015-16 Simmonds: 32 G 60 P - 13 PPG 21 PPP - Thats 19 G 39 P at EVSTR.

Closest player is Raffl at 29 points(31 minus 2 PPP)

2014-15 Simmonds: 29 G 60 P 15 PPG 24 PPP - 14 G 36 points at EVSTR

On par with Matt Read 38 P(40 minus 2 PPP)

To summarize. Take away his PP Time and he is no better than a 3rd line player. He is basically Raffl with PP time and no concept of defense or puck possession

- xShoot4WarAmpsx


Good, we should be able to sign this useless 3rd liner for little money short term...right?
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Nov 1 @ 3:19 PM ET
I'd go after Panarin.
- jmatchett383


Panarin is a weird case. It seems like he is set on playing with a few number of teams. The same with W. Nylander, he could be super skilled, no guarantee he produces more for his demand and do you really want that type of player who holds out on the team?
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Nov 1 @ 3:20 PM ET
It was a good trade (Danny Markov) that the Flyers messed up by not extending Markov.

If they don't have Markov, I doubt they'd have the defense required to beat Toronto, Primeau or no Primeau. Plus, let us never forget his slapper late in game 5 against New Jersey.



"Malakhov for Zhamnov...and Markov

I can't believe Bob Clarke allowed all those damn Ruskies on the team.

- jmatchett383


Danny loved his Marlboros and Vodka though
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Nov 1 @ 3:20 PM ET
Good, we should be able to sign this useless 3rd liner for little money short term...right?
- jmatchett383


No we like our 3rd lines long term high $$$s
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Nov 1 @ 3:21 PM ET
Panarin is a weird case. It seems like he is set on playing with a few number of teams. The same with W. Nylander, he could be super skilled, no guarantee he produces more for his demand and do you really want that type of player who holds out on the team?
- Glak18


Sergei Fedorov was a whining primadonna who held out. I'll take a team full of him, please.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Nov 1 @ 3:22 PM ET
No we like our 3rd lines long term high $$$s
- xShoot4WarAmpsx


Well, you just showed us how useless he is, so why would we expect him to be offered high money or long term?
FreshFlyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.17.2011

Nov 1 @ 3:24 PM ET
You forgot that he captained Canada to its first WJC gold medal in 8 years, its longest drought ever.
- jmatchett383


oh (frank) forgot about that one. The guy won it all that's for sure. Sucks that his career ended so short, if he would've had a couple of more decent regular seasons he probably would have made it to the hall of fame.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Nov 1 @ 3:25 PM ET
Well, you just showed us how useless he is, so why would we expect him to be offered high money or long term?
- jmatchett383


It was a joke because we sign guys like Read, Hartnell, Weise ect to long term deals at high dollar values
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Nov 1 @ 3:25 PM ET
oh (frank) forgot about that one. The guy won it all that's fore sure. Sucks that his career ended so short, if he would've had a couple of more decent regular seasons he probably would have made it to the hall of fame.
- FreshFlyer


Nah, HHOF was a long shot. He was very good, though.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Nov 1 @ 3:26 PM ET
It was a joke because we sign guys like Read, Hartnell, Weise ect to long term deals at high dollar values
- xShoot4WarAmpsx


I wouldn't consider Read and Weise to be high dollar values.
Cootehill
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 03.27.2017

Nov 1 @ 3:29 PM ET
Wayne Simmonds. Over his 7-year tenure here, the top 3 Flyers goal scorers are:

Simmonds - 180
Giroux - 164
Voracek - 136

Why do you ask?

- jmatchett383

I think it's time to move on from all 3 of these guys. We haven't been past the 1st round in 6 years. We're a very average team to slightly above average team and I don't see it changing a lot either. Does anyone think that this team with G and Jake can win a cup? I could be wrong, but I don't.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Nov 1 @ 3:33 PM ET
I think it's time to move on from all 3 of these guys. We haven't been past the 1st round in 6 years. We're a very average team to slightly above average team and I don't see it changing a lot either. Does anyone think that this team with G and Jake can win a cup? I could be wrong, but I don't.
- Cootehill


Thats counter productive. It just sets us back further.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Nov 1 @ 3:34 PM ET
I think it's time to move on from all 3 of these guys. We haven't been past the 1st round in 6 years. We're a very average team to slightly above average team and I don't see it changing a lot either. Does anyone think that this team with G and Jake can win a cup? I could be wrong, but I don't.
- Cootehill


It's all the coaching staffs fault that this core hasn't got past the first round. At least that's what I keep reading.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Nov 1 @ 3:35 PM ET
It's all the coaching staffs fault that this core hasn't got past the first round. At least that's what I keep reading.
- dragonoffrost


I blame Jesus.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Nov 1 @ 3:35 PM ET
Yes. Over the course of 7 seasons, Wayne Simmonds has been their leading goal scorer. I haven't said otherwise.

However, his is not "our leading goal scorer every season."

Some seasons he is, some seasons he is not.

- jmatchett383

I’m sorry if it wasn’t worded to your liking, giving you an opportunity to nitpick but this is all that matters. I mean, who has been the least healthy of Giroux, Voracek and Simmonds?

Everyone knows Zetterberg and Datsyuk were amazing for Detroit for years but they still needed Holstein to be a success.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Nov 1 @ 3:36 PM ET
I blame Jesus.
- jmatchett383


Who is Jesus and can he make a basic hockey play?
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