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bulet13
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Faceoffs, Plus/Minus, and PIMs...the Holy Trinity, TX
Joined: 03.10.2013

Nov 3 @ 1:44 PM ET
I am excited that you are talking hockey. Can I PM you pics?
- Aetherial


No just post them here
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Nov 3 @ 1:45 PM ET
The only troll is the person who thinks a 65 pt winger gets you a 65 pt defenseman
- bulet13


If I knew if Nylander could become an 80 point forward without Matthews, I think I would do it. Personally I don't see it, but if Hextall does then the trade will happen.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Nov 3 @ 1:48 PM ET
I think a really excellent discussion on Nylander for Ghost is happening here

https://www.hockeybuzz.co...read.php?thread_id=155703

Anyone interested in talking about it should really go talk about it there.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Nov 3 @ 1:50 PM ET
Yeah uh nylander doesn't get you ghost. Ghost is a dman and scores at about the same rate as Nylander.
- bulet13


And Nylander is a forward that plays defense at the same rate as Ghost does.
Dr. Leaf
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Oakville, ON
Joined: 07.01.2018

Nov 3 @ 1:57 PM ET
You get what you pay for. Nylander isnt going to get you a #1 D. never in a million years. hes a nice piece, but as far as D go, youre looking at a #3 tops.
- RippedFuel


Please leave troll.
RippedFuel
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 11.01.2016

Nov 3 @ 1:59 PM ET
If I knew if Nylander could become an 80 point forward without Matthews, I think I would do it. Personally I don't see it, but if Hextall does then the trade will happen.
- Glak18


Giroux had 100 points last year. Lets not over inflate Matthews compared to Giroux. Giroux literally had FORTY more points than Matthews. Literally FORTY.

That's nothing to sneeze at.
RippedFuel
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 11.01.2016

Nov 3 @ 2:01 PM ET
How about Eichel(50% salary retained) for Hainsey, we could use a 3rd line Centre while Matthews is out.
- Archaic


This is almost as funny as that other guy who said we'd have to add to Dahlin to get Nylander. That Dahlin for Nylander wasn't enough.

ah. Leafs fans.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Nov 3 @ 2:05 PM ET
Giroux had 100 points last year. Lets not over inflate Matthews compared to Giroux. Giroux literally had FORTY more points than Matthews. Literally FORTY.

That's nothing to sneeze at.

- RippedFuel


It isn't anything to sneeze at and at times Giroux would be considered underrated, but RIGHT now (age, contract, injuries as factors) I would accept Matthews for Giroux and a sincere handy from yours truly in a heartbeat.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Nov 3 @ 2:09 PM ET
This Pegula guy is (frank)ing awkward.
gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

Nov 3 @ 2:17 PM ET
"After a pair of listless and inconsistent performances against Calgary and Dallas, the Leafs have called up winger Trevor Moore from the AHL Toronto Marlies."

You even watch bro?
RippedFuel
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 11.01.2016

Nov 3 @ 2:17 PM ET
It isn't anything to sneeze at and at times Giroux would be considered underrated, but RIGHT now (age, contract, injuries as factors) I would accept Matthews for Giroux and a sincere handy from yours truly in a heartbeat.
- Glak18


The only thing is age. Contract is cheap now, but in 9 months, Matthews is looking at 15M a year. And injuries? Giroux has missed 5 games in 5 years. Matthews has missed that this week. Im not saying Giroux is better than Matthews, but theyre comparable.

Plus..like the old saying goes, the best ability is AVAIL -ability.

The question was...would Nylander be as productive with Giroux as Matthews...why not?? Griouxs ability to stay healthy would increase his totals more than likely
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Nov 3 @ 2:19 PM ET
The only troll is the person who thinks a 65 pt winger gets you a 65 pt defenseman
- bulet13

To be fair, Nylander plays more defence than Ghost does.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Nov 3 @ 2:20 PM ET
And Nylander is a forward that plays defense at the same rate as Ghost does.
- GreatGigInTheSky

Damn you, Gigsie!
gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

Nov 3 @ 2:21 PM ET
The only thing is age. Contract is cheap now, but in 9 months, Matthews is looking at 15M a year. And injuries? Giroux has missed 5 games in 5 years. Matthews has missed that this week. Im not saying Giroux is better than Matthews, but theyre comparable.

Plus..like the old saying goes, the best ability is AVAIL -ability.

The question was...would Nylander be as productive with Giroux as Matthews...why not?? Griouxs ability to stay healthy would increase his totals more than likely

- RippedFuel


Water your lawn deeply (but not too often) to promote the growth of deep roots.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Nov 3 @ 2:21 PM ET
Giroux had 100 points last year. Lets not over inflate Matthews compared to Giroux. Giroux literally had FORTY more points than Matthews. Literally FORTY.

That's nothing to sneeze at.

- RippedFuel

Giroux had 40 more points in 20 more games. Matthews was at a 45 goal/85 point pace at age 20.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Nov 3 @ 2:21 PM ET
Please lezave troll.
- Dr. Leaf

Do not feed the franking troll!
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Everybody calm down, AB
Joined: 07.24.2011

Nov 3 @ 2:24 PM ET
I think a really excellent discussion on Nylander for Ghost is happening here

https://www.hockeybuzz.co...read.php?thread_id=155703

Anyone interested in talking about it should really go talk about it there.

- Aetherial

It's willy for zacha and seversen now...
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Nov 3 @ 2:26 PM ET
Damn you, Gigsie!
- Atomic Wedgie


GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Nov 3 @ 2:27 PM ET
It's willy for zacha and seversen now...
- Arctic_AARDVARK


Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Nov 3 @ 2:28 PM ET
The only thing is age. Contract is cheap now, but in 9 months, Matthews is looking at 15M a year. And injuries? Giroux has missed 5 games in 5 years. Matthews has missed that this week. Im not saying Giroux is better than Matthews, but theyre comparable.

Plus..like the old saying goes, the best ability is AVAIL -ability.

The question was...would Nylander be as productive with Giroux as Matthews...why not?? Griouxs ability to stay healthy would increase his totals more than likely

- RippedFuel


Nylander would not be paired with Giroux. Nylander would either be slot in the 3C or maybe 2RW if they traded Voracek.
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Everybody calm down, AB
Joined: 07.24.2011

Nov 3 @ 2:29 PM ET

- GreatGigInTheSky

Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Everybody calm down, AB
Joined: 07.24.2011

Nov 3 @ 2:33 PM ET
Nylander would not be paired with Giroux. Nylander would either be slot in the 3C or maybe 2RW if they traded Voracek.
- Glak18

Ideally he'd be in a top 6 role...

But a year of learning the 3C position might not be the worst thing for him. Eventually Giroux will break down..
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Nov 3 @ 2:37 PM ET
Ideally he'd be in a top 6 role...

But a year of learning the 3C position might not be the worst thing for him. Eventually Giroux will break down..

- Arctic_AARDVARK


Ideally he would be a top 6, but the way the Flyers are structured he would be more useful on the 3rd.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Nov 3 @ 2:38 PM ET


- Arctic_AARDVARK


Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Everybody calm down, AB
Joined: 07.24.2011

Nov 3 @ 2:38 PM ET
Ideally he would be a top 6, but the way the Flyers are structured he would be more useful on the 3rd.
- Glak18

He's MOST useful on Matthews wing... And i don't much like to imagine him on your team.
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