I think we have better discussions on here when we are playing poopty.
- Reubenkincade

Whiners vs pom poms is more of a debate. Right now, it's more about who's right and who's wrong.

But I can name many flaws of the stat both ways , for and against . A stat that has that many flaws should not be a relevant stat.
- VANTEL

I find most stats not relevant.
W & L’s are pure stats

The single worst stat is SO Wins

I find most stats not relevant.
W & L’s are pure stats
- Nighthawk

Eyes are the best stats. They seldom let you down

The wanna be GMs can micro analyse and look at the score sheet all game and miss what is actually going on.

There are tons of ways of tracking stats. EP's bank pass to Boeser would have been classified as a uncontrolled entry right?
- manvanfan

yes, but I don't need to look at the numbers to know EP is amazing. Also how often does that play happen in a game?

Controlled entries > dump and chase + cycle

What are y'all debating about?

What are y'all debating about?
- LeftCoaster

Says the Master Debator

Says the Master Debator
- VANTEL

In fishing terms that's the equivalent of a "master baiter"

yes, but I don't need to look at the numbers to know EP is amazing. Also how often does that play happen in a game?

Controlled entries > dump and chase + cycle
- Nucker101

EP's number show it's unsustainable.

In fishing terms that's the equivalent of a "master baiter"
- LeftCoaster

A very rewarding hobby

EP's number show it's unsustainable.
- manvanfan

of course he's going to slow down, but the chances he creates are amazing.

I doubt anyone here is expecting him to keep up this PPG pace.

I seen Hamonic in a full cage last night, maybe ask him if he thinks Canucks have toughness
- VANTEL

One example of a guy who got in a fight because he had to. That was game 1 I think wasn’t it? Hasn’t stopped any team from using physical play to intimidate the Canucks... and all you we need to be tougher, this team is a joke crowd from spouting off about it

And how much toughness do they have now, still zero?
- 1970vintage

One example of a guy who got in a fight because he had to. That was game 1 I think wasn’t it? Hasn’t stopped any team from using physical play to intimidate the Canucks... and all you we need to be tougher, this team is a joke crowd from spouting off about it
- 1970vintage

Horvat kicked someones ass

Eyes are the best stats. They seldom let you down

The wanna be GMs can micro analyse and look at the score sheet all game and miss what is actually going on.
- VANTEL

Eye test doesn’t lie 👍

One example of a guy who got in a fight because he had to. That was game 1 I think wasn’t it? Hasn’t stopped any team from using physical play to intimidate the Canucks... and all you we need to be tougher, this team is a joke crowd from spouting off about it
- 1970vintage

I'm guessing in 15 years Pettersson will have exactly ZERO fights, I wonder how long before Vantel starts complaining he's too much like Henrik

I'm guessing in 15 years Pettersson will have exactly ZERO fights, I wonder how long before Vantel starts complaining he's too much like Henrik
- LeftCoaster

How do you know that in the next 15 years he will not fight. He has said it a few times he is not a Sedin don't expect him to be. His words not mine.

Eye test doesn’t lie 👍
- Nighthawk

I can't speak for the others, but I watch the games and then look at some stats once enough games have been played in the season.


I really don't understand why people just assume that you can only do or the other

And as fans we watch the puck with our eyes, we miss the little things players do away from the puck.

I'm guessing in 15 years Pettersson will have exactly ZERO fights, I wonder how long before Vantel starts complaining he's too much like Henrik
- LeftCoaster

How do you know that in the next 15 years he will not fight. He has said it a few times he is not a Sedin don't expect him to be. His words not mine.
- VANTEL

I'm joking, but if I had to guess, I'd put money on zero fights for his career. You were always complaining you wanted a Crosby or Getzlaf or Joe Thornton type of number one center. So I took a shot

I'm joking, but if I had to guess, I'd put money on zero fights for his career. You were always complaining you wanted a Crosby or Getzlaf or Joe Thornton type of number one center. So I took a shot
- LeftCoaster

I know it's a joke but...


who cares? If EP has zero fights after 10 years or 2, that poop won't matter in the long run. I'm more interested to see how he handles himself in high pressure/intensity NHL games.


Does anyone still care that Ben Hutton fought last year? (frank) no, we just want him to play well

I'm joking, but if I had to guess, I'd put money on zero fights for his career. You were always complaining you wanted a Crosby or Getzlaf or Joe Thornton type of number one center. So I took a shot
- LeftCoaster

I never expected Gretzky to fight but he did. I don't think I can predict in 5 years if his line mate gets gets blind sided how he will react. I will revisit this in 15 years

Also, I can’t believe we are all cap managementy about $600k for Hutton but $6m for fourth liners isn’t a problem because of all the space they have

I know it's a joke but...


who cares? If EP has zero fights after 10 years or 2, that poop won't matter in the long run. I'm more interested to see how he handles himself in high pressure/intensity NHL games.


Does anyone care that Ben Hutton fought last year? (frank) no
- Nucker101

I could care less, he's not getting paid to fight, he's getting paid to create offence.

Joe Sakic is probably my favourite player of all-time to watch and I don't think he ever fought once.

Whiners vs pom poms is more of a debate. Right now, it's more about who's right and who's wrong.
- manvanfan

That’s the attitude