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Hope the team sues the poop out of the Uber driver for breach of privacy without consent.

IANAL but how could the team sue the driver? Why would they even try? Do they really want that publicity? LOL

Yes, I have. I was punished for it. As it should be.
- Bolts91

You should be punished for it even if you say it at your house? Give me a break

Lol why would they have spoken up and said enough? They all agree on what was being said, plus they had no reason to believe this conversation would become public.
- Trevor Shackles

they were in a cab. its not 1965 anymore. almost anything and everything is recorded these days.

So dumb. People should be held accountable for what they say.

Why blame the guy who's making $5 an hour?
-Bolts91

Because it was a private conversation that was released to the public and is against Uber's regulations. The camera is for driver safety only. These guys didnt do anything wrong. The criticized their coach, they are allowed to voice their opinions. It is our right as human beings. Disciplining them is like saying anyone who says Marchand deserves to get hit from behind days after it happens should be disciplined to.

Accountable for saying bad things about their superiors? Stuff that literally everybody says? Guarantee you've said things of that ilk about a boss you've had
- Trevor Shackles

Of course. But if I got busted saying it, then its on me to own it.

You should be punished for it even if you say it at your house? Give me a break
- Trevor Shackles

And where in there too did they say anything that was not true?! The coaching staff does not coach them, they are the bottom PP and now PK cause the same assistant coach who was inept is now running the pk. The players actually were talking facts about how bad things are and they get no real coaching. Sorry but speaking the truth only means Dorion should wake up and fix the problem in the first place which was Boucher and his staff losing the room and being outcoached across the league since last season!!

The guy probably depends on this job to feed his family. I have no idea how people are taking the side of these players who all make millions.
- Bolts91

So do we all but If I take video footage of a client release it online without my bosses' consent you sure as hell know I will be canned. What the Uber Driver did was ILLEGAL. It doesnt matter that he needs the money. Your basically saying a person who sexually harasses some shouldnt be fired because they need the money. They did something that is against the workplace's ethics and is considered Illegal, therefore he deserves to be fired.

You should be punished for it even if you say it at your house? Give me a break
- Trevor Shackles

maybe they should have had this conversation at someones house then ..

both sides sre wrong in this situation but since this is hockeybuzz the focus is on the players. maybe uberbuzz or taxibuzz would be a good place to discuss the drivers role in this.

So do we all but If I take video footage of a client release it online without my bosses' consent you sure as hell know I will be canned. What the Uber Driver did was ILLEGAL. It doesnt matter that he needs the money. Your basically saying a person who sexually harasses some shouldnt be fired because they need the money. They did something that is against the workplace's ethics and is considered Illegal, therefore he deserves to be fired.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

You are basing your opinion on the premise that you know that this driver is the one that released this tape. You really have no idea. For all we know, their system may have been hacked. How do we know this wasn't done by a Russian who is just trying to sow more division into Western civilization?

You should be punished for it even if you say it at your house? Give me a break
- Trevor Shackles

What are you talking about? They did not say this in the privacy of their own house. They said this in public in a service provided by a stranger. Did you miss the entire story? If you speak badly about your employer in public, you should have to deal with the consequences when you get caught.

they were in a cab. its not 1965 anymore. almost anything and everything is recorded these days.
- systemtool

So they should never speak ill of anyone ever again, got it.

What are you talking about? They did not say this in the privacy of their own house. They said this in public in a service provided by a stranger. Did you miss the entire story? If you speak badly about your employer in public, you should have to deal with the consequences when you get caught.
- Bolts91

Right, but people do that in public all the time. I'm just using your logic and saying that they should be punished no matter where they say it then. Ridiculous to say that though because every single person would be punished if every conversation was recorded.

You are basing your opinion on the premise that you know that this driver is the one that released this tape. You really have no idea. For all we know, their system may have been hacked. How do we know this wasn't done by a Russian who is just trying to sow more division into Western civilization?
- Bolts91

True, it's mere speculation. But it seems highly probable, as he'd have easiest access to it. Prepared to eat my words on that tho.

Right, but people do that in public all the time. I'm just using your logic and saying that they should be punished no matter where they say it then. Ridiculous to say that though because every single person would be punished if every conversation was recorded.
- Trevor Shackles

Better question HOW do you punish these guys? Nothing they said was untrue...

Wideman, UFA end of the season, same with Dutch. Chabot your top dman and future. Formenton you sent back to the OHL and he's likely thankful to get top minutes and some real coaching from the sound of things. De Mello your 3-4 dman and Tierney top 6 forward, and Colin White....

Hard to nail most of these guys with more than a smack on the wrist and be more mindful of being in a spot to be recorded.

Dorion can't do a whole lot against them.

True, it's mere speculation. But it seems highly probable, as he'd have easiest access to it. Prepared to eat my words on that tho.
- sportsdataguy

Given Uber's response and investigation and having it yanked down, though once it is out there it is out there on the internet, it would definitely appear the driver was the one who put it out there or Uber would not be making comments regarding a policy breach

So they should never speak ill of anyone ever again, got it.
- Trevor Shackles

I never said that. But they run the risk of it getting out there, and it did. Thats my point.

Fact is the driver violated Uber policy. So he'll most likely be fired.
If the vehicle did not have a notice that clearly stated that video
and audio recording of all occupants was being done then the driver is quite likely guilty of a criminal offense (regardless of how widespread the practice may be). Legally, the test is whether a reasonable person would have a reasonable expectation of their conversation being private. Obviously, the Uber driver was present so in that sense it was no different than walking on the street. But the difference is the recording... Could be a really interesting court case.
If they are judged to have had an expectation of privacy and it turns out that he gained financially by making the video available to a third party then the driver could definitely be in big time legal trouble.
And finally, the millionaires that cheaped out by taking Uber should be thankful they were only recorded and not involved in an accident caused by a high driver or faulty brakes etc. Definitely, poor judgment on their part imo.
And last but least: Dave Cameron might need a job. Maybe he should send his resume. Oh wait.....

Out of curiosity, arent you allowed to film someone in public in the states? And aren't you especially allowed to film on And in private property(the van)? And whats so different from this and someone uploading their dash cam to YouTube?

Out of curiosity, arent you allowed to film someone in public in the states? And aren't you especially allowed to film on And in private property(the van)? And whats so different from this and someone uploading their dash cam to YouTube?
- jbold

Because he works for Uber and Uber as a company has policies that cover having the cam with or without audio, of which the driver knew and violated.

Because he works for Uber and Uber as a company has policies that cover having the cam with or without audio, of which the driver knew and violated.
- Roadrunner75

But company policy doesn't over rule the law.

But company policy doesn't over rule the law.
- jbold

Depends on the law, which changes between countries and also the different state laws down in the US so I don't know if it violates any there or not. Company policy so far is where the guy has gotten in crap here and given he broke company policy which affects those players rights to privacy as per the company, COULD see it possibly opening an avenue for a law suit but not a lawyer and that is up to the players/team, Uber, and lawyers so...

Will say if he didn't disclose they were being recorded that would be a problem.

I never said that. But they run the risk of it getting out there, and it did. Thats my point.
- systemtool

"Run the risk," you could say that about any private conversation at the rink too. These things are being said all the time from players

Brutal luck, Duchene comes off looking pretty bad on this being a veteran player who is supposed to lead. A vet with a group of young players should know better, though I'm sure it's quite common. Maybe this is what coaches and management mean when they talk about veteran leaders and "intangibles", players who help get their message across and get the young players to buy in.

What are you talking about? They did not say this in the privacy of their own house. They said this in public in a service provided by a stranger. Did you miss the entire story? If you speak badly about your employer in public, you should have to deal with the consequences when you get caught.
- Bolts91

Simply no.

The real problem with this team is still Eugene Melnyk. Martin Raymond is probably the only coach he can afford. Any other team would fire a special teams coach for being last in both PK and PP. Honestly, Ottawa will never have a good team again as long as Melnyk is owner. Duchene and Stone are gone next summer guaranteed.