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Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Nov 6 @ 12:24 PM ET
Those complaining about breach of privacy are out to lunch. These players were not discussing these issues in the privacy of their locker room or their hotel room or their homes. They were in a public place with another party that had no ties to the team. They have no expectations of privacy there. Even without the video these guys were spilling the beans in the company of someone not involved. There is no privacy there.

Cannot complain about breach of privacy if you shoot your mouth off in front of people.

And from what I understand Arizona is a one consent state so him being involved in the discussion means he's done nothing wrong legally.

- burn


Not that his guilt or innocence in yet another colossal Sens derp is really relevant, but I always wonder if the one-consent rule includes the person doing the recording?
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Nov 6 @ 12:25 PM ET
I'm really not shocked something like this happened. co workers banter it happens in every workplace.

I don't like the idea of the Cab driver posting it but at least it will get back to the coaching staff and management who will hopefully wake up.

I'm curious as to how they are going to deal with/punish the players. Personally I'd be making those guys do two a days for the next week and very limited ice time. Doesn't matter that Duchene and Chabot are our star players they need to learn to have respect.

As for another idea. I've said a long time ago that I think one player we could get extremely cheap is Nail Yakupov and I think that even more now that he's not in the NHL. We could get him super cheap and he's a guy that has talent and could take off. As well as he would likely appreciate of opportunity and maybe rub that appreciative attitude on some of the other players.... plus heck what else do we have to lose.

- Maverick1818


Nail Yakupov?

Good lord.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Nov 6 @ 6:40 PM ET
That's sort of my point. You spoke up. Which is what you want out of people who know what they are doing or who recognize that there's a problem. There are ways to do it respectfully. If that falls on deaf ears (and perhaps you try again), then the problem is no longer yours - you've done your part.

If they had spoken up, the conversation wouldn't have been about how he runs the worst PK and now worst PP, and how he hasn't listened in three weeks, and so on . . . it would have been about how the coach would't listen to them, or how frustrating it was that they couldn't do x or y. Instead they aren't a part of the solution at all. They're just contributing to the problem.

- Monkeypunk


I spoke up but that doesnt mean I didnt say things about the company outside the job. I said plenty of stuff and so did my coworkers. Many people who "retired" shortly after the take over said things as well during their after work going away party among coworkers\subordinates
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Nov 6 @ 7:19 PM ET
No but do you think its acceptable if you and a colleague go out for lunch and vent about work and some guy just films it and posts it online? Everyone gets frustrated with their work place, clearly they are. All conversation conversations are considered private unless someone is talking to you. The players were talking amongst themselves, they werent talking to the driver. He asked one question they answered and went back to THEIR conversation. It doesnt matter where you are, you have no right to record and share other people's conversations. I mean should I have to watch what I say in a hotel room because someone might be recording me? No that is wrong!
- xShoot4WarAmpsx



Wrong.
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