Woo has dealt a pretty substantial hit in all of the games that I have seen him play for either Team Canada or this WHL/Russian series. Agree it wasn't the most strenuous hit, but more so posted for how he did it. Its two games in a row that he has not allowed the opposition to get into his goaltenders crease, and he does it in a physically dominating way, which is something not a ton of our D currently do.
- Codes1087

If he does that in nhl, he will get a 2 game suspension.
Doesn't look much different than when Matheson" bodyslammed" Petterson.

If he does that in nhl, he will get a 2 game suspension.
Doesn't look much different than when Matheson" bodyslammed" Petterson.
- Reubenkincade

I thought it looked dangerous. Pushing an off balance player into the end boards. If someone had done that to a Canuck player the cries for retribution would have been deafening.

I thought it looked dangerous. Pushing an off balance player into the end boards. If someone had done that to a Canuck player the cries for retribution would have been deafening.
- 1970vintage

yup.

I thought it looked dangerous. Pushing an off balance player into the end boards. If someone had done that to a Canuck player the cries for retribution would have been deafening.
- 1970vintage

Gudbranson did the same play to Malkin a few years back when he was in Florida, and it wasn't worth a penality. There is such a huge difference between what happened to Pettersson and what Woo did, that I am not sure you could even create an argument that they are close.

One was a player, with the puck, driving to the net, being pushed while he was off balance
one was a player, without the puck, being slammed down into the ice, while off balance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbRVGNKwQIE

apples and oranges

If he does that in nhl, he will get a 2 game suspension.
Doesn't look much different than when Matheson" bodyslammed" Petterson.
- Reubenkincade

agree to disagree. and to me, its not even close to being comparable to the Matheson and pettersson one. throwing someone down into the ice, when he doesn't have the puck, is not the same as pushing someone when he does. Pushing a guy who drives the net, being given a 2 game suspension? come on reuby.. but again, just my opinion

Gudbranson did the same play to Malkin a few years back when he was in Florida, and it wasn't worth a penality. There is such a huge difference between what happened to Pettersson and what Woo did, that I am not sure you could even create an argument that they are close.

One was a player, with the puck, driving to the net, being pushed while he was off balance
one was a player, without the puck, being slammed down into the ice, while off balance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbRVGNKwQIE

apples and oranges
- Codes1087

100% codes - strange comparison

100% codes - strange comparison
- CanuckDon

its hard to argue, because I was 100% against the Matheson throw, but not his hit against pettersson.

Having said that, if we start getting snippy about pushes, we are slowly going to eliminate all physicality from the game. If you drive the net, how else is a defender supposed to physically take you out of the play or impede your path if he can push, especially if he is lateral with the forward driving? What Woo did, in my opinion, was a perfect play and was perfectly clean.

Hey gang,

A travel day in Canuck-land today, but we've got more Pettersson highlights, records and comparisons to gush over.

And if Quinn Hughes can get past a wonky groin, can Brock Boeser do the same?

New blog:

https://www.hockeybuzz.co...ut-to-Red-Wings/194/95791

agree to disagree. and to me, its not even close to being comparable to the Matheson and pettersson one. throwing someone down into the ice, when he doesn't have the puck, is not the same as pushing someone when he does. Pushing a guy who drives the net, being given a 2 game suspension? come on reuby.. but again, just my opinion
- Codes1087

we are talking fractions of seconds here Codes, Petterson had the puck, when he was hit, then when he got strongarmed, he had already made a pass, 3/100ths of a second earlier.
Woo hits player, who loses control of puck, and strongarmed that player during his follow through on said hit. The receiver of the hit had been without the puck for 5/100ths of a second.
I don't see much difference between those 2 hits. just my opinion though.

we are talking fractions of seconds here Codes, Petterson had the puck, when he was hit, then when he got strongarmed, he had already made a pass, 3/100ths of a second earlier.
Woo hits player, who loses control of puck, and strongarmed that player during his follow through on said hit. The receiver of the hit had been without the puck for 5/100ths of a second.
I don't see much difference between those 2 hits. just my opinion though.
- Reubenkincade

a punch thrown on a player who isn't engaged in a fight, vs a punch thrown at a player who is in a fight, two variants of an action with two very different scenarios and which result in two very different outcomes.

All in all, apples and oranges. Having the possession of the puck, whether you are off balance or not, puts you in a place to be the receipient of a legal hit/push/shove/etc. Being pushed without the puck, depending on severity, does not put you in a place to be the receipient of such action.

If I drive to the net in my beer league, despite it being non contact, you have to expect contact from a defender if hes lateral to you. I don't expect a hit, but I expect to be taken off the puck and have my line impeded in some way. I really don't see any corealation between the two incidents, at all.

I'm sticking with bottom 10. clearly an improved club this year when Beagle and Sutter are healthy and better 5/5 as predicted. I'm still saying we finish 21-25 somewhere in there.

Really all I hope is that Pettersson wins the Calder. All else doesn't really matter at this point with realistic expectations.
- LordHumungous

That is realistic... but so is finishing out of bottom 10. That would only take improving 4 spots over last season's injury plague of the ages. I smell more weakness in our division this season as well.

When does Eriksson become a healthy scratch? Fire Benning.
- Marwood

Goldobin will be scratched long before LE I think. Don't count on either getting scratched with Beartchi out.

a punch thrown on a player who isn't engaged in a fight, vs a punch thrown at a player who is in a fight, two variants of an action with two very different scenarios and which result in two very different outcomes.

All in all, apples and oranges. Having the possession of the puck, whether you are off balance or not, puts you in a place to be the receipient of a legal hit/push/shove/etc. Being pushed without the puck, depending on severity, does not put you in a place to be the receipient of such action.

If I drive to the net in my beer league, despite it being non contact, you have to expect contact from a defender if hes lateral to you. I don't expect a hit, but I expect to be taken off the puck and have my line impeded in some way. I really don't see any corealation between the two incidents, at all.
- Codes1087

You must be missing the follow through of Woo's arm, very similar to what Matheson did.
Both were hockey plays, IMO

You must be missing the follow through of Woo's arm, very similar to what Matheson did.
Both were hockey plays, IMO
- Reubenkincade

we will have to agree to disagree I think reuby. I have watched Woo's hit a bunch of times now, actually trying to look for something that I think is deemed dirty, and I have nothing. And pushing a guy generally involves a follow through of the arm. And I don't understand what you mean. If they are suspendable, are they hockey plays? I thought hockey players are generally clean and go unpunished?

Gudbranson did the same play to Malkin a few years back when he was in Florida, and it wasn't worth a penality. There is such a huge difference between what happened to Pettersson and what Woo did, that I am not sure you could even create an argument that they are close.

One was a player, with the puck, driving to the net, being pushed while he was off balance
one was a player, without the puck, being slammed down into the ice, while off balance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbRVGNKwQIE

apples and oranges
- Codes1087

I never compared the two. I simply said it looked like a dangerous play. Because it was committed by a Canuck prospect doesn’t make it ok.

100% codes - strange comparison
- CanuckDon

Codes is the one who made the comparison...

I never compared the two. I simply said it looked like a dangerous play. Because it was committed by a Canuck prospect doesn’t make it ok.
- 1970vintage

sorry, I think I quoted you instead of Reuby. Comparison response was for Reuby, the Pushing off the puck comment + video was in response to you. my bad.

Codes is the one who made the comparison...
- 1970vintage

reuby made the comparison, I refuted it. I just quoted the wrong person.

.......... you guys sure know how to kill a thread lol !