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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Nov 9 @ 11:57 PM ET
That’s because from what I recall you said “C” prospect.

But I could be wrong

- sbroads24


Nope, i said “B”
And was roasted for it
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Nov 10 @ 12:01 AM ET
Nope, i said “B”
And was roasted for it

- jdfitz77

Weird. I would have said a solid B, former first really good AHL scorer in limited time.

Don’t think he’s ready for this team right now. I’d call up Smith
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Nov 10 @ 12:07 AM ET
Weird. I would have said a solid B, former first really good AHL scorer in limited time.

Don’t think he’s ready for this team right now. I’d call up Smith

- sbroads24


If we wanna play fast,
we need to start bring in players with speed

Obviously it’s gonna take time
But why bring in these guys that are just average (at best) skaters?


As far as Thompson goes...
he’s mostly been used in a bottom6 or defensive role
That’s why he supposedly couldn’t score last year with StL
If he’s gonna be here,
then let’s put him in a position to be successful
I hope he works out...
but obviously i was never high in him as a prospect/young player

I’ll be very happy if he proves me wrong at some point though
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Nov 10 @ 12:09 AM ET
Weird. I would have said a solid B, former first really good AHL scorer in limited time.

Don’t think he’s ready for this team right now. I’d call up Smith

- sbroads24


And that’s my point about mid-late 1st round picks

You really just don’t know what you’re gonna get with these guys
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Nov 10 @ 12:20 AM ET
Literally one said that.
- sbroads24




I just realized there's no "no" in front of "one". It's amazing how your mind fills in the blanks based on what you'd normally read.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Nov 10 @ 12:21 AM ET
And that’s my point about mid-late 1st round picks

You really just don’t know what you’re gonna get with these guys

- jdfitz77

Sure, but when they pan out, it’s a huge plus.

I’d take back nothing Murray did because it gave us Dahlin, but I can’t believe all the talent he could have had for a decade is ridiculous.

And I know O’Reilly is a good player and could have been a good player here still, but I’d agree with what Jcrag said earlier, the coaches can’t help themselves but give them big ice time.

Honest question, is it not possible that if O’Reilly was snaking some key minutes from Jack, that 1st line might not have been formed or rolling like they are
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Nov 10 @ 12:23 AM ET
Do i need to post the stats about how pucks generally turn out?

Of course I’d have liked Konecny instead of trading for Lehner
We just went through that the other day

But 1st round picks that are mid-late are just as likely to be Pysyk, as they are Pasternak
And i know you know that

- jdfitz77


Usually like this:



jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Nov 10 @ 12:29 AM ET
Sure, but when they pan out, it’s a huge plus.

I’d take back nothing Murray did because it gave us Dahlin, but I can’t believe all the talent he could have had for a decade is ridiculous.

And I know O’Reilly is a good player and could have been a good player here still, but I’d agree with what Jcrag said earlier, the coaches can’t help themselves but give them big ice time.

Honest question, is it not possible that if O’Reilly was snaking some key minutes from Jack, that 1st line might not have been formed or rolling like they are

- sbroads24


But we shouldn’t be in the business of trading players- GOOD players- for parts that we HOPE work out

That’s just a bad model

Now sometimes you’re stuck, like with Kane
But O’Reilly was under contract,
and absolutely didn’t have to be moved at that time

As for him taking key minutes from Jack...
No, i think you’re reaching here
1) O’Reilly was given very heavy defensive zone starts
So i doubt u could make a connection to him taking away Jack’s offensive chances
2) Jacks icetime is the same this year without ROR, as it was last year
It’s not like his icetime has increased in his absence
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Nov 10 @ 12:30 AM ET
Usually like this:


- Wetbandit1


Lol
I’m on my phone
Give me break guy
I misstype frequently & don’t catch them all
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Nov 10 @ 12:35 AM ET
Sure, but when they pan out, it’s a huge plus.

I’d take back nothing Murray did because it gave us Dahlin, but I can’t believe all the talent he could have had for a decade is ridiculous.

And I know O’Reilly is a good player and could have been a good player here still, but I’d agree with what Jcrag said earlier, the coaches can’t help themselves but give them big ice time.

Honest question, is it not possible that if O’Reilly was snaking some key minutes from Jack, that 1st line might not have been formed or rolling like they are

- sbroads24


I don’t think it was RORs icetime that was the issue
He’s playing 20+ minutes a night this year too
The difference is that StL is using him in a more offensive role,
and he’s not stuck taking every damn defensive zone draw

Now we we have continued using him so defensively heavy here?
Probably
So i wouldn’t expect him to have 20pts with us right now
But it’s obvious that he’s a really good player, who was just in a really tough role here, without little help
BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

Nov 10 @ 12:49 AM ET
BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

Nov 10 @ 1:01 AM ET
Usually like this:


- Wetbandit1

this is actually (frank)ing awesome

watch how a curling stone is made, it's like this but even more insane
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Nov 10 @ 1:34 AM ET
this is actually (frank)ing awesome

watch how a curling stone is made, it's like this but even more insane

- BeadyEyedDouche


I've seen most of them. The curling stone is where one guy picks all the stones for each set so that they can be as close to the same weight and feel?
feetontheair22
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Tampa doesn't suck, FL
Joined: 02.01.2011

Nov 10 @ 7:33 AM ET

- BeadyEyedDouche


This is EXCELLENT work
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Nov 10 @ 7:53 AM ET
Sobotka is 3/1/4
Burgland is 2/2/4
Thompson is 0/1/1
Totals 5/4/9 with 19.5% of season completed
Projected for full 82 games = 26/20/46 ....

which is right on for goals but short on assists compared to ROR's average production.


Clearly then, we can now see that any issue with this trade has everything to do with Lehner, Kane, Sam and Risto. Pure and simple.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Nov 10 @ 7:56 AM ET
This is EXCELLENT work
- feetontheair22


Would have been better if Pommners face was on the feline....'cause we all know he plays like a wussy, lol!
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Nov 10 @ 8:35 AM ET

- BeadyEyedDouche

homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Nov 10 @ 8:37 AM ET
Sobotka is 3/1/4
Burgland is 2/2/4
Thompson is 0/1/1
Totals 5/4/9 with 19.5% of season completed
Projected for full 82 games = 26/20/46 ....

which is right on for goals but short on assists compared to ROR's average production.


Clearly then, we can now see that any issue with this trade has everything to do with Lehner, Kane, Sam and Risto. Pure and simple.

- IonSabres

jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Nov 10 @ 8:57 AM ET

- BeadyEyedDouche


9/10

I would have absolutely lost it if the woman had Botterill's face
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Nov 10 @ 8:59 AM ET
Sobotka is 3/1/4
Burgland is 2/2/4
Thompson is 0/1/1
Totals 5/4/9 with 19.5% of season completed
Projected for full 82 games = 26/20/46 ....

which is right on for goals but short on assists compared to ROR's average production.


Clearly then, we can now see that any issue with this trade has everything to do with Lehner, Kane, Sam and Risto. Pure and simple.

- IonSabres


All I know is, without Sobotka and Berglund, we're probably watching Criscuolo and Elie every game.
robz228
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.07.2010

Nov 10 @ 9:48 AM ET
i was all about digging into the past failures of meh trades when we were tanking but the team is exciting and you cannot possibly get me to give one rats ass about the oreilly trade
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Nov 10 @ 10:05 AM ET
SEASON-TO-DATE GRADE: B-
At 8-6-2 the Sabres are exceeding expectations. The combined projected win total based on per game money lines is 7.3 wins. If you consider winning as a clear-cut underdog or winning by 2+ goals as a slight favorite, then they have 5 good wins and one bad loss. They have won 44% of their road games and were expected to win 41%. At home they have a 57% win percentage vs an expected win rate of 51%. Their record over the last 3 weeks and win% (5-3-2, 50%) is better than their expected 46% win percentage. In simulations where the Sabres played every other team (neutral court in playoffs) they won just 34.9% of the time (#31 in the league). Their peak sim% was 35.3% back on 8/3.

Their record is slightly better than it should be. Their average goal differential is 0 which ranks #16 in the league, but their rank based on points (per game) is #14. They are the #17 ranked team in goal differential (based on all teams' road stats). This is the same ranking they have among home teams. Their average goal differential in their past 6 games is +0.33 which ranks them #14 over this stretch, slightly better than the season overall.


2 things -

We're totally average! I'm cool with that

Idk what simulation they're using, but how did they project us to be the worst team again?
Pope of Pucks
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Miller's Dark Shadows, AZ
Joined: 08.04.2009

Nov 10 @ 10:55 AM ET
9/10

I would have absolutely lost it if the woman had Botterill's face

- jcragcrumple

or Kim's

jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Nov 10 @ 11:12 AM ET
or Kim's
- Pope of Pucks


She's not a J name though
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Nov 10 @ 11:28 AM ET
She's not a J name though
- jcragcrumple

she's korean

you can pronounce it with a J
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