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Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON
Joined: 08.23.2006

Nov 10 @ 3:18 PM ET
No i dont..

Buyouts, minors, trade, Lucic island? Who knows, maybe he could be serviceable.. The next CBA maybe the leafs could push for easier buyout options on bad contracts..

- Arctic_AARDVARK


Buyout costs you cap space for a player that doesn't play.

Minors costs you 5.1 AAV instead of 6 AAV.

Trade? Yeah right.

Lucic Island? Not without a legit injury. Notice how Lupul, Horton and Robidas all never played again? It's because they were actually injured. It wasn't fake.

At 6 AAV, there's no (frank)ing way he's useful.
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Split rock, Nipigon River., ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Nov 10 @ 3:19 PM ET
The wildcard is Puju.....if Babs could fix him he would certainly fit in the top 6
- RatedR80

Hyman Matthews Marner
Puljujarvi Tavares Kapanen
Marleau Kadri Brown
Lucic Lindholm Johnsson

Rielly Zaits
Gards Oz
Nurse Dermott
Hainsey
Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON
Joined: 08.23.2006

Nov 10 @ 3:20 PM ET
The wildcard is Puju.....if Babs could fix him he would certainly fit in the top 6
- RatedR80


Leafs would be trading a more proven player for two pieces of "potential" and a salary dump.

Puju is a big body, so is Lucic, which is what the Leafs need. Bouchard is a solid RHD top prospect. But that cap hit needs to be manageable because Lucic is less than half the player he use to be and that contract isn't a pretty one. If they could get it down to 4 AAV, he might score 15 playing beside Tavares and would provide size and physicality that nobody else on the team has with the occasional fight.
Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON
Joined: 08.23.2006

Nov 10 @ 3:21 PM ET
Hyman Matthews Marner
Puljujarvi Tavares Kapanen
Marleau Kadri Brown
Lucic Lindholm Johnsson

Rielly Zaits
Gards Oz
Nurse Dermott
Hainsey

- Arctic_AARDVARK


The 6 million dollar 4th liner.

Great plan.
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Split rock, Nipigon River., ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Nov 10 @ 3:22 PM ET
The 6 million dollar 4th liner.

Great plan.

- Unholy_Goalie

Lucic island..

Who cares we'll be winning cups..
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Nov 10 @ 3:24 PM ET
Chicago player fully shoots the puck into his own net. He (frank)ing buried it. How the (frank) do they even consider giving any assists on that?
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Nov 10 @ 3:25 PM ET
Chicago player fully shoots the puck into his own net. He (frank)ing buried it. How the (frank) do they even consider giving any assists on that?
- GreatGigInTheSky

NHLPA needs to boost contracts
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Split rock, Nipigon River., ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Nov 10 @ 3:26 PM ET
Chicago player fully shoots the puck into his own net. He (frank)ing buried it. How the (frank) do they even consider giving any assists on that?
- GreatGigInTheSky

If they keep track of errors in baseball, why not hockey?
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Nov 10 @ 3:27 PM ET
The 6 million dollar 4th liner.

Great plan.

- Unholy_Goalie


What if the Oil were willing to retain a couple million?
Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON
Joined: 08.23.2006

Nov 10 @ 3:29 PM ET
What if the Oil were willing to retain a couple million?
- Wildschwein


Different story. Lucic at 6 AAV is different than Lucic at 3 AAV, especially if you give him a shot in the top-six with Tavares and Marner and see if a strong cycle game can get him scoring again.
RatedR80
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 10.17.2013

Nov 10 @ 3:29 PM ET
What if the Oil were willing to retain a couple million?
- Wildschwein

That was on the table
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Nov 10 @ 3:31 PM ET
That was on the table
- RatedR80


On the table, under the table, I’ll slip them whatever they want if they take
Lucic.
Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON
Joined: 08.23.2006

Nov 10 @ 3:34 PM ET
On the table, under the table, I’ll slip them whatever they want if they take Lucic.
- Wildschwein


So you'd take Nylander for Bouchard, Puljujärvi and Lucic with 3 million retained?
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Nov 10 @ 3:40 PM ET
NHLPA needs to boost contracts
- AdamFrench


It's ridiculous. The ass I'm facing this week in my fantasy league has Giroux and Couturier.

The NHL should eliminate hometown scoring/stats keeping.
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Nov 10 @ 3:42 PM ET
So you'd take Nylander for Bouchard, Puljujärvi and Lucic with 3 million retained?
- Unholy_Goalie


Not if Bouchard is included, no. I’d be comfortable with retaining, just not that much.
Leafsmart
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Fredericton, N.B.
Joined: 12.18.2013

Nov 10 @ 3:42 PM ET
Can imagine Dubas reading this today. The near mention of Lucic must bring a big chuckle. Maybe if Horton was off the books. On another note, a really good pregame ceremony prior to last night"s game. And a big thumbs up to Joe Bowen during a stoppage in play. Saw the old eyes moisten up after the big wave. Again, he and Neale were a fantastic pair. Never forget the night they were laughing so hard during play, they had difficulty composing themselves. Priceless!
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Nov 10 @ 3:44 PM ET
You can't acquire him and put him on the 4th line and expect him to "protect" anyone. Especially at 6 AAV as you suggested.
- Unholy_Goalie



The term left on his contract scares me as much as his cap hit, if not more.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Nov 10 @ 3:45 PM ET
Can imagine Dubas reading this today. The near mention of Lucic must bring a big chuckle. Maybe if Horton was off the books. On another note, a really good pregame ceremony prior to last night"s game. And a big thumbs up to Joe Bowen during a stoppage in play. Saw the old eyes moisten up after the big wave. Again, he and Neale were a fantastic pair. Never forget the night they were laughing so hard during play, they had difficulty composing themselves. Priceless!
- Leafsmart


Its quite upsetting he doesnt do tv.. (frank)ing Hughson tonight..
Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON
Joined: 08.23.2006

Nov 10 @ 3:45 PM ET
Not if Bouchard is included, no. I’d be comfortable with retaining, just not that much.
- Wildschwein


You're getting a proven 1st line player in Nylander and giving up two unknowns and an otherwise untradeable salary dump. If Bouchard isn't included, there's no point anymore because he's the piece the Leafs actually really need.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Nov 10 @ 3:46 PM ET
Its quite upsetting he doesnt do tv.. (frank)ing Hughson tonight..
- systemtool


Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON
Joined: 08.23.2006

Nov 10 @ 3:46 PM ET
The term left on his contract scares me as much as his cap hit, if not more.
- systemtool


Much more manageable at 3 AAV than 6 though. Brown is making 2 by comparison. If Lucic could score 15 goals, hit everything that moves and occasionally fight, he'd be fine at 3 AAV.
dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Space for Rent
Joined: 08.30.2006

Nov 10 @ 3:49 PM ET
5-2 Leafs!
- TrashPanda


Gardiner 1G,3A .......
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Nov 10 @ 3:49 PM ET
You're getting a proven 1st line player in Nylander and giving up two unknowns and an otherwise untradeable salary dump. If Bouchard isn't included, there's no point anymore because he's the piece the Leafs actually really need.
- Unholy_Goalie


Not saying I wouldn't part with Bouchard. Just saying that if the decision were mine, I wouldn't retain 3 mill if he was part of the deal. 2 mill perhaps but not 3.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Nov 10 @ 3:50 PM ET
Much more manageable at 3 AAV than 6 though. Brown is making 2.
- Unholy_Goalie



Brown makes sense given his age, low cost and short term. At this point Lucic can barely play now, let alone in a few years from now.

Keep Nylander. Avoid the lucic mess.
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Split rock, Nipigon River., ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Nov 10 @ 3:50 PM ET
Its quite upsetting he doesnt do tv.. (frank)ing Hughson tonight..
- systemtool

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