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burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Nov 11 @ 11:00 AM ET
Marner is scheduled to hit bonuses as well as Matthews.

Adds another 5.5 million I think and it carries over to next season. I need to read up on it again but I know having Willie at 9 million will not help.

I think it’s over for him.

- Santo_44


Willie at 9? What?

He's getting more than he's asking for?
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Nov 11 @ 11:03 AM ET
I’m starting to change my tune. I think he gets signed long term in the next 10-14 days at pastanak money. Something everyone thought was reasonable months ago.
- bryant


That would save them 2 months of cap hit for this year, brilliant.


Edit: Dubas and Shanny planned it.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Nov 11 @ 11:04 AM ET
There are only three outcomes, there are no conclusions being implied, the likely outcome IMO is a trade at some point.
- winsix

Yeah and how do you know it’s a failure...

You could love the trade. Don’t jump to conclusions
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Nov 11 @ 11:06 AM ET
Yeah and how do you know it’s a failure...

You could love the trade. Don’t jump to conclusions

- Santo_44


I never said it was a failure - read again - you said that. I said it did not go as planned.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Nov 11 @ 11:06 AM ET
That would save them 2 months of cap hit for this year, brilliant.


Edit: Dubas and Shanny planned it.

- winsix



When you sign into the season the cap hit on future years goes down.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Nov 11 @ 11:06 AM ET
Willie at 9? What?

He's getting more than he's asking for?

- burn

If he signs 6x7

His cap hit will be around 9 million this year. Around 6.5 the following years.

Depends on what day he signs but it’s the way it works. The Athletic put out an article on it.
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Nov 11 @ 11:07 AM ET
I don't think they were physically dominated, outside of a couple chara body's lams that went unpenalized.
- burn

And Marner being crosschecked and hit 15 seconds after he passed the puck all night.
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Nov 11 @ 11:09 AM ET
When you sign into the season the cap hit on future years goes down.
- burn


Perfect, still hope he signs
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Nov 11 @ 11:10 AM ET
Carl Grundstrom earned the first star of the hockey game with two goals and now has eleven points (5G 6A) in ten games played. This was Grundstrom's first two goal game of the year and the @TorontoMarlies are 3-0-0-1 when he scores a goal.



He's a beauty
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Nov 11 @ 11:11 AM ET
Carl Grundstrom earned the first star of the hockey game with two goals and now has eleven points (5G 6A) in ten games played. This was Grundstrom's first two goal game of the year and the @TorontoMarlies are 3-0-0-1 when he scores a goal.



He's a beauty

- burn


Liljegren had an excellent game I heard as well.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Nov 11 @ 11:11 AM ET
If he signs 6x7

His cap hit will be around 9 million this year. Around 6.5 the following years.

Depends on what day he signs but it’s the way it works. The Athletic put out an article on it.

- Santo_44



How does his cap hit go to 9 this year? That makes no sense
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Nov 11 @ 11:15 AM ET
How do you know that they didn't try? I think that none of this is a surprise to anyone in the Leafs' organization.

This leak to Friedman is nothing more than Dubas sending a message to Willy's group, but at the same time, doing his due diligence on an asset now, getting legit offers in play vs. waiting until the last week when the vultures come out and offer scraps to attempt to take advantage of a desperate Dubas.

I still think he signs on a bridge deal and part of me wonders if that was the expected outcome all along (and maybe one they preferred).

- gravyface

Dubas said early summer/late spring he hadn't started contract negotiations with nylander.
Should have signed him prior jt.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Nov 11 @ 11:15 AM ET
Leafs have over 12mil in projected cap space anyways, so even if his cap hit goes to 9mil this year, someone they have room for him plus still have space to make other moves
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Nov 11 @ 11:16 AM ET
How does his cap hit go to 9 this year? That makes no sense
- burn


Cap hit after the first year = (First year salary * (season days remaining / total season days) + contract value remaining) / contract years

First year’s cap hit = cap hit after the first year * (total season days / season days remaining

If he signs today his cap hit for this season is 8.6 million for a 6x7 contract. If he signs Dec 1st it’s 9.7 million.

The Athletic is great. It tells you poop mainstream media doesn’t even know about
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Nov 11 @ 11:20 AM ET
Dougie Hamilton would be a great scapegoat on the Leafs. Every time he makes a mistake and Nylander scores for Carolina we can poop kittens, it'll be so Leafy.
- Zezel

That will be what occurs no matter who we trade nykander for.
bryant
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.28.2011

Nov 11 @ 11:21 AM ET
Leafs have over 12mil in projected cap space anyways, so even if his cap hit goes to 9mil this year, someone they have room for him plus still have space to make other moves
- burn

Cap friendly says $15.4 million. But ya cap space isn’t an issue this year.

Edit: was the difference between projected and current?
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Nov 11 @ 11:22 AM ET
That will be what occurs no matter who we trade nykander for.
- Fakepartofme

Is it any different from the “Willie is too soft we need more toughness” people?
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Nov 11 @ 11:23 AM ET
Cap friendly says $15.4 million. But ya cap space isn’t an issue this year.
- bryant

They have less than that. I don’t know the exact number, but I think it is 11-12. But if they sign Willie Dec 1st they will have about 1.5-3 million in space...not enough.
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Nov 11 @ 11:26 AM ET
That will be what occurs no matter who we trade nykander for.
- Fakepartofme

Good point. I'm looking forward to it.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Nov 11 @ 11:27 AM ET
I’m sure we’d be booing him in no time
- Garnie

If nylander signs, i hope the fans boo the crap out of him.

Until he scores.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Nov 11 @ 11:30 AM ET
If he signs 6x7

His cap hit will be around 9 million this year. Around 6.5 the following years.

Depends on what day he signs but it’s the way it works. The Athletic put out an article on it.

- Santo_44

The cap the rest of the years would only save about 250 -300 000 savings not 500 000 i believe.
Could be wrong.
bryant
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.28.2011

Nov 11 @ 11:33 AM ET
They have less than that. I don’t know the exact number, but I think it is 11-12. But if they sign Willie Dec 1st they will have about 1.5-3 million in space...not enough.
- Santo_44

Ya it said projected $12.2 million, but current is $15.4. I’m not sure what difference between projected and current means.
All this stuff is confusing as hell lol
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Nov 11 @ 11:33 AM ET
Cap hit after the first year = (First year salary * (season days remaining / total season days) + contract value remaining) / contract years

First year’s cap hit = cap hit after the first year * (total season days / season days remaining

If he signs today his cap hit for this season is 8.6 million for a 6x7 contract. If he signs Dec 1st it’s 9.7 million.

The Athletic is great. It tells you poop mainstream media doesn’t even know about

- Santo_44

The athletic (hockey) is made up of former main stream media.
Also, sportsnet reported this a while ago.
This isnt news to most media.

Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Nov 11 @ 11:33 AM ET
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Nov 11 @ 11:38 AM ET
Cross crease tip in is a terrible back breaker?
- burn

Wasn’t it the Bergeron short side goal? (1st) or was that the 2nd...anyways..that goal kinda sucked for Sparks.
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