Another frustrating day in the Willie Ny saga coming up for the Leafs diehards...

There will be a resolution at some point. I still think Willy signs with the team and stays for a few more seasons.

you're the worst.
only thing you do is irrationaly ̶d̶e̶f̶e̶n̶d̶ attack anything that has to do with L̶e̶a̶f̶s̶ ̶/̶ Leafs management.

In addition, plenty of suggestions were made for 'even' deals.
- plantheparade

Take a good hard look in the mirror

Ah that is a big no, you fans are over rating your players again. Marner is not worth 10 mill. Yeah marner is worth 4 mill more than pasternak. Sure buddy
- msillen

You think Eichel is worth 3.25M more the Pastrnak?

You think Eichel is worth 3.25M more the Pastrnak?
- Archaic

Does Willie think he is worth one cent more than Pastrnak ??

Max is the morning version of Ugtard!
- Unholy-Goalie

at least i didn't call my own wife a minger

The thing is Pastrnak is an example of why willie should hold out, not what he is worth.
Pastrnak should be getting 9-10 mil a season for his production

The thing is Pastrnak is an example of why willie should hold out, not what he is worth.
Pastrnak should be getting 9-10 mil a season for his production
- senstroll

Exactly, who could live on that salary.. Have to feed the children..

The thing is Pastrnak is an example of why willie should hold out, not what he is worth.
Pastrnak should be getting 9-10 mil a season for his production
- senstroll

Pastrnak scored 30+ goals and got 6.75M per year. In the past RFA's were meant to be controllable players to help with the cap. Now, due to the Chiarelli's of the world, that time is gone.

Nylander at 6.75M is reasonable on both sides IMO. He hasnt proven anything, and you cant pay for projected results. How does that have any common sense in the world?

If he would have produced at a higher level, he would have gotten paid more, but he didnt. You sign for current value.

The thing is Pastrnak is an example of why willie should hold out, not what he is worth.
Pastrnak should be getting 9-10 mil a season for his production
- senstroll

Pasternak could of gotten a bridge deal.

And a bridge deal you don’t get paid well...so it’s a players decision.

at least i didn't call my own wife a minger
- plantheparade

Back to insulting wives again eh Max?
Good work, idiot!

You just angry you're married to your right hand?

Pasternak could of gotten a bridge deal.

And a bridge deal you don’t get paid well...so it’s a players decision.
- Santo_44

Exactly. That and there is something to be said about long term certainty for a player. If he gets a long term injury, then this provides him with a lot of money to fall back on.

Im pretty sure Pastrnak isnt waking up every morning crying because he is making almost 7M per year.

Exactly. That and there is something to be said about long term certainty for a player. If he gets a long term injury, then this provides him with a lot of money to fall back on.

Im pretty sure Pastrnak isnt waking up every morning crying because he is making almost 7M per year.
- Archaic

But, but, but ,,, the children..

Pastrnak scored 30+ goals and got 6.75M per year. In the past RFA's were meant to be controllable players to help with the cap. Now, due to the Chiarelli's of the world, that time is gone.

Nylander at 6.75M is reasonable on both sides IMO. He hasnt proven anything, and you cant pay for projected results. How does that have any common sense in the world?

If he would have produced at a higher level, he would have gotten paid more, but he didnt. You sign for current value.
- Archaic

point being, Pastrnak is one of the biggest outliers.

Dubas is obv trying to get him on a value deal long term because he knows he will out produce his contract if he can get him at 6 or 6.5.

it makes a hell of a lot more sense from a team building perspective to pay players what they are worth when the are in their prime (22-30), then it does to pay a player for his past results. You get overpaid Vets (Marleau) who are a drag on the cap.

WN at 7.5 mil for the next 8 years is better value than a player you are paying for what he did 5 years ago cuz he has "Proven it"

Exactly. That and there is something to be said about long term certainty for a player. If he gets a long term injury, then this provides him with a lot of money to fall back on.

Im pretty sure Pastrnak isnt waking up every morning crying because he is making almost 7M per year.
- Archaic

Exactly.

He is going to get paid when he’s a UFA.

Like it should be.

point being, Pastrnak is one of the biggest outliers.

Dubas is obv trying to get him on a value deal long term because he knows he will out produce his contract if he can get him at 6 or 6.5.

it makes a hell of a lot more sense from a team building perspective to pay players what they are worth when the are in their prime (22-30), then it does to pay a player for his past results. You get overpaid Vets (Marleau) who are a drag on the cap.

WN at 7.5 mil for the next 8 years is better value than a player you are paying for what he did 5 years ago cuz he has "Proven it"
- senstroll

You are missing the point.

Dubas doesn’t have to give Nylander that money just because a few other dumb GMs did. The comparables we are talking about are 30 and 35 goal scorers.

Nylander hasn’t sniffed that yet.

If Willie signs 6x7 today

His cap hit is 8.6 mil this season

6.7 for years 2-6

You are missing the point.

Dubas doesn’t have to give Nylander that money just because a few other dumb GMs did. The comparables we are talking about are 30 and 35 goal scorers.

Nylander hasn’t sniffed that yet.
- Santo_44

You can't be right with him. So, I suggest you not try. It will end in frustration.

You are missing the point.

Dubas doesn’t have to give Nylander that money just because a few other dumb GMs did. The comparables we are talking about are 30 and 35 goal scorers.

Nylander hasn’t sniffed that yet.
- Santo_44

I understand..dont worry.
Sure he doesnt have to, but quess what he is still not signed and may never be by the Leafs.

but again, we dont know what the offer or ask is, its all a guess on our part..so who (frank)ing knows

You can't be right with him. So, I suggest you not try. It will end in frustration.
- bixll

I think Senstroll brings some valid points to the conversation. At least from my perspective.

Since when do we discuss things to change one's mind anyway?

Who (frank)in cares about what John Toews thinks about the Willie Ny situation.



Leaf fans don't even care about it, at this point. Now it is just frustrating bull poop.

Leave the punk in Sweden. Offer is 4 mill per or you sit a year.
- bixll

Cant sit him for the year. This year is the leafs best chance financially to push for the cup. Both am and mm are on elc's, the leafs will have 5 million or so in cap space at the tdl to acquire serious short term talent.
(Not to say they cant/wont win a cup after the kids are off their elc, just saying cap wise, this looks to provide the most financial opportunity)
Sign willie or trade him. You cant waste the asset this year.

I think Senstroll brings some valid points to the conversation. At least from my perspective.

Since when do we discuss things to change one's mind anyway?
- Scabeh

Everyday.. cheers.

Everyday.. cheers.
- bixll

It's snowing.

Exactly.

He is going to get paid when he’s a UFA.

Like it should be.
- Santo_44

if you look at baseball, Teams are no longer paying for what a player already did. once they hit that age curve Teams have gotten much smarter and wont pay the big UFAs much past a couple seasons into thier 30s (for the most part).

you will slowly see a similar shift in the NHL. imo

If Willie signs 6x7 today

His cap hit is 8.6 mil this season

6.7 for years 2-6
- Santo_44

Honestly, imo, 7 is too much for willie.