Would welcome Shattenkirk on the Leafs. Would not welcome any deal to the Rags that involved Nylander. There isn't a single piece in their prospect pool that could even be used to leverage a decent deal for Willie. They'd have to add 1st rounders to make it palatable.
- mjones242

I wouldn't. He's been a healthy scratch.

I blame Edmonton for all this poop with RFA's. They were the ones who started giving their guys 6 million dollar long term contracts right out of ELCs. Eberle, Hall, Nuge.
- Aaron_85

It's not those guys, IMO, it's the Draisaitl deal that killed the RFA market

Rangers GM did the right thing. I can't blame him on this one.
- Aaron_85

I would only take Shattenkirk, if the deal included Kravtsov and K'Andre Miller

that depends on what Matthews/Marner's next contract looks like
- PatC80

She's ok, trying again..

I blame Edmonton for all this poop with RFA's. They were the ones who started giving their guys 6 million dollar long term contracts right out of ELCs. Eberle, Hall, Nuge.
- Aaron_85

Is that who started all this poop? It really sucks. We haven't even won anything (literally, not even 1 round) and we cant even keep all our players? if you win a cup, sure, who cares. but we might be capped out of our window to even win anything!

And Gary just got into the hall!!!

I HATE THE NEW NHL

She's ok, trying again..
- bixll

The best part is trying anyways.

*scurries away*

It's not those guys, IMO, it's the Draisaitl deal that killed the RFA market
- PatC80

See my problem with that too is one deal shouldn't change an entire market. If you let that happen then you're a poop GM and clearly the agents have all the power.

The best part is trying anyways.

*scurries away*
- Garnie

The Son in law is a happy fella.

I would only take Shattenkirk, if the deal included Kravtsov and K'Andre Miller
- PatC80

I don't know those guys but I'll take your word they'd be worth it.

I think Carolina or Anaheim are the likely spots for a trade. Philly could be a dark horse because they have D-men and nobody is talking about them.

I blame Edmonton for all this poop with RFA's. They were the ones who started giving their guys 6 million dollar long term contracts right out of ELCs. Eberle, Hall, Nuge.
- Aaron_85

Taylor Hall for 6 mil for his best seasons is pretty good

Is that who started all this poop? It really sucks. We haven't even won anything (literally, not even 1 round) and we cant even keep all our players? if you win a cup, sure, who cares. but we might be capped out of our window to even win anything!

And Gary just got into the hall!!!

I HATE THE NEW NHL
- Hockey_Reverend

I don't know if it were those deals specifically but they certainly didn't help anything.

I agree with you. It sucks teams like Toronto who drafted and developed are punished for not winning in a two year window.

It's sad to see the likes of Chicago at the bottom of the west for no reason than cap issues.

Would you trade Nylander to Colorado for Ottawa 1st right now?

Would you trade Nylander to Colorado for Ottawa 1st right now?
- senstroll

I wouldn't hang up the phone

Edit: I think Dubas would be considered "losing" on that deal because the team isn't helped for a "cup run" this year. I don't know if they are really championship material this year though.

I don't know if it were those deals specifically but they certainly didn't help anything.

I agree with you. It sucks teams like Toronto who drafted and developed are punished for not winning in a two year window.

It's sad to see the likes of Chicago at the bottom of the west for no reason than cap issues.
- Aaron_85

The system is broken when it punishes people for drafting and developing there own players too well. They need to move away from a hard cap... some kind of luxury tax or something...

Would you trade Nylander to Colorado for Ottawa 1st right now?
- senstroll

Yes!

Would you trade Nylander to Colorado for Ottawa 1st right now?
- senstroll

Straight up? Not a chance. Too many uncertainties of where it will land.

Any Nylander trade needs to be for players who are roster ready and can have an immediate impact IMO.

Would you trade Nylander to Colorado for Ottawa 1st right now?
- senstroll

Absolutely!

The system is broken when it punishes people for drafting and developing there own players too well. They need to move away from a hard cap... some kind of luxury tax or something...
- Hockey_Reverend

The problem with that is it still allows the haves and have nots to exist. Which is what they want to do away with.

Something like a franchise tag would be good maybe? Or like 50% of a players salary doesn't count against your cap?

I wouldn't hang up the phone

Edit: I think Dubas would be considered "losing" on that deal because the team isn't helped for a "cup run" this year. I don't know if they are really championship material this year though.
- Aaron_85

I would expect most to say yes, because the Lure of a 1st and what it could be is so tempting to people. But the Odds that they end up with a player just as good has to be less then 50% i would think at this point.

I would love to just be able to enjoy all that time with the Sens draft pick praying they lose every game.

The problem with that is it still allows the haves and have nots to exist. Which is what they want to do away with.

Something like a franchise tag would be good maybe? Or like 50% of a players salary doesn't count against your cap?
- Aaron_85

Do we care about the have not's? Wouldn't our league be better with a few less basement teams?

I am just sick of this. It also sucks for teams like Chicago. There needs to be some way for teams to keep some of there players...

I would expect most to say yes, because the Lure of a 1st and what it could be is so tempting to people. But the Odds that they end up with a player just as good has to be less then 50% i would think at this point.

I would love to just be able to enjoy all that time with the Sens draft pick praying they lose every game.
- senstroll

The trolling of Sens fans would be great. At the deadline trade them their first and our first for Chabot?

Do we care about the have not's? Wouldn't our league be better with a few less basement teams?

I am just sick of this. It also sucks for teams like Chicago. There needs to be some way for teams to keep some of there players...
- Hockey_Reverend

I agree with you, I just think there might be a system that works for everyone.

I wouldn't. He's been a healthy scratch.
- Aaron_85

He's been a healthy scratch for one game this year.

I would expect most to say yes, because the Lure of a 1st and what it could be is so tempting to people. But the Odds that they end up with a player just as good has to be less then 50% i would think at this point.

I would love to just be able to enjoy all that time with the Sens draft pick praying they lose every game.
- senstroll

Can you imagine? If we got the pick and it turned out to be a star player, that would be an epic troll job for a good 15 years of trolling!!!

Absolutely!
- TrashPanda

And with the 8th overall pick in the 2019 NHL entry draft....
The Toronto Maple Leafs are pleased to select.....



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