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Hockey_Reverend
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.21.2012

Nov 13 @ 1:39 PM ET
My sources are telling me that Nylander is a douche bag.

Will confirm shortly...
Hockey_Reverend
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.21.2012

Nov 13 @ 1:40 PM ET
Rangers put Lindqvist on waivers





I don't see this anywhere???

























- TheMussel

bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Nov 13 @ 1:41 PM ET
My sources are telling me that Nylander is a douche bag.

Will confirm shortly...

- Hockey_Reverend



Confirmed.
TrashPanda
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Your Green Bin, ON
Joined: 03.29.2018

Nov 13 @ 1:41 PM ET
I'm convinced it's NOT about the money.
It's about the fact that Nylander wants to make sure he's not trading to a team that he does not want to play for - this is the only moment he has some actual leverage over that decision.

- plantheparade


Not much, really.
Hockey_Reverend
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.21.2012

Nov 13 @ 1:41 PM ET
Lunqvist for Sparks straight up...
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Nov 13 @ 1:42 PM ET
Nasty. My brother in laws uncle was like that. He once stole a TV from the Hells Angels and gave it to my brother in laws dad as his Christmas present. His dad got his ass kicked and his house ransacked for it...though the Hells Angels guys did apologize and make it clear that they didn't want to do it, they had to to keep up their reputation.
- AdamFrench


Reputations are hard to uphold you know...poop happens.
plantheparade
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Hyman MVP
Joined: 07.04.2018

Nov 13 @ 1:43 PM ET
Not much, really.
- TrashPanda

eh yes.
the moment he signs a contract, he has 0 leverage over being traded yes/no.
at this moment, leafs have something to lose as well (him sitting out).
nylander would lose sitting out the year as well, but 1st of july, he would still have leverage over where he'd be traded to (since no contract signed yet with any organisation; he could repeat the same game with any organisation trading for his rights, but him not willing to play for).
Hockey_Reverend
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.21.2012

Nov 13 @ 1:43 PM ET
Not much, really.
- TrashPanda


So in pressing the issue he is forcing the team he wants to play for to trade him?

LOLOL

Be friggin happy you are making ludicrous money playing a game. You are young. No family. Just sign.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Nov 13 @ 1:43 PM ET
Such good guys eh?


- Scabeh

Better than nothing
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Nov 13 @ 1:45 PM ET
Lunqvist for Sparks straight up...
- Hockey_Reverend



bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Nov 13 @ 1:45 PM ET
So in pressing the issue he is forcing the team he wants to play for to trade him?

LOLOL

Be friggin happy you are making ludicrous money playing a game. You are young. No family. Just sign.

- Hockey_Reverend



Exactly, The year of the lockout, they were playing in our beer league for free.
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Nov 13 @ 1:45 PM ET
I'm convinced it's NOT about the money.
It's about the fact that Nylander wants to make sure he's not trading to a team that he does not want to play for - this is the only moment he has some actual leverage over that decision.

- plantheparade


I'd read . . . probably Friedman - was saying something along those lines. It made cursory sense, but if you really think about it - for a true star player aged 24 - 29, if they are performing, there's basically no dollar value that makes them untradeable.

But if they go full Bobby Ryan, then even a cheap contract is untradeable.

Nylander's leverage lies in playing his best. If he really wants to be untradeable, then he should make himself an untradeable asset though work and performance.

How many more times can I say untradeable in this reply?

Untradeable.
Hockey_Reverend
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.21.2012

Nov 13 @ 1:46 PM ET
eh yes.
the moment he signs a contract, he has 0 leverage over being traded yes/no.
at this moment, leafs have something to lose as well (him sitting out).
nylander would lose sitting out the year as well, but 1st of july, he would still have leverage over where he'd be traded to (since no contract signed yet with any organisation; he could repeat the same game with any organisation trading for his rights, but him not willing to play for).

- plantheparade


As an RFA he really has little leverage... the only thing this is doing is harming his rep and career. You don't deserve a no-trade at this point. That is the point. And you also don't deserve 8 large. So what is this agent feeding him? (and his dad for that matter)...
TrashPanda
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Your Green Bin, ON
Joined: 03.29.2018

Nov 13 @ 1:46 PM ET
So in pressing the issue he is forcing the team he wants to play for to trade him?

LOLOL

Be friggin happy you are making ludicrous money playing a game. You are young. No family. Just sign.

- Hockey_Reverend


This.
Hockey_Reverend
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.21.2012

Nov 13 @ 1:47 PM ET
Exactly, The year of the lockout, they were playing in our beer league for free.
- bixll


If we have another lockout year I will go insane...
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Nov 13 @ 1:48 PM ET
As an RFA he really has little leverage... the only thing this is doing is harming his rep and career. You don't deserve a no-trade at this point. That is the point. And you also don't deserve 8 large. So what is this agent feeding him? (and his dad for that matter)...
- Hockey_Reverend


Bell and Rogers have a lot of money
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Nov 13 @ 1:49 PM ET
If we have another lockout year I will go insane...
- Hockey_Reverend



NHL would take a big hit in the US if they did strike again.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Nov 13 @ 1:49 PM ET
I am not looking for any sympathy at all, but prolly a little cranky, my step brother passed away on the weekend of a drug overdose.

He battled heroine addiction for years. And lost.

- bixll


thats sucks man, sorry to hear that.
Hockey_Reverend
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.21.2012

Nov 13 @ 1:49 PM ET
I'd read . . . probably Friedman - was saying something along those lines. It made cursory sense, but if you really think about it - for a true star player aged 24 - 29, if they are performing, there's basically no dollar value that makes them untradeable.

But if they go full Bobby Ryan, then even a cheap contract is untradeable.

Nylander's leverage lies in playing his best. If he really wants to be untradeable, then he should make himself an untradeable asset though work and performance.

How many more times can I say untradeable in this reply?

Untradeable.

- Monkeypunk


Exactly. If he signs for a reasonable contract, then performs like we all believe he can, there is no need to trade him... you don't need a no-trade. You are a core player who we really dont want to trade. Accept now that we all think you are a douche... trade him!
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Nov 13 @ 1:49 PM ET
I don't know those guys but I'll take your word they'd be worth it.

I think Carolina or Anaheim are the likely spots for a trade. Philly could be a dark horse because they have D-men and nobody is talking about them.

- Aaron_85



Those 2 guys were 2 of the 3 first rd draft picks the Rangers had this past draft.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Nov 13 @ 1:50 PM ET
Yup i see my error.
Thats on me. My bad

Read it wrong.

Nevermind.

I can live with 6.75 per.

- Fakepartofme


what about 7.1?
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Nov 13 @ 1:50 PM ET
thats sucks man, sorry to hear that.
- senstroll

bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Nov 13 @ 1:51 PM ET
what about 7.1?
- senstroll

Hockey_Reverend
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.21.2012

Nov 13 @ 1:52 PM ET
Bell and Rogers have a lot of money
- TheMussel


Yes, but its called a CAP. Besides, the money you can make in endorsements helps in a big market like Toronto. Look at Connor Brown! I want to buy my skates from Source for Sports now thanks to the little leprechaun!
plantheparade
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Hyman MVP
Joined: 07.04.2018

Nov 13 @ 1:52 PM ET
As an RFA he really has little leverage... the only thing this is doing is harming his rep and career. You don't deserve a no-trade at this point. That is the point. And you also don't deserve 8 large. So what is this agent feeding him? (and his dad for that matter)...
- Hockey_Reverend


i really understand nylander's point of view.
he would just stay this season, but then being loaded off to another team.
could be tire fires like ottawa or other bottom feeders..
it's not about the non-trade (not possible).
it's nylander realising that toronto can't keep a full competitive roster with matthews, marner, rielly, kadri, andersen, tavares and a few others, while paying hime 6.5mln as well.. heck, even kapanen will get 3-4million on his next contract..
he knows he's gone after this season, so he prefers to be traded to a team of his choice (sj, ana, flo, nyr i would guess are top teams on his list).
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