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Honestly I don’t want to see nylander trades but if leafs do trade him get a very good winger left winger or right winger that can add something to this team and can score. Why? If nylander goes you have a void on wing. Marleau will be 40 next year. We need 2 complete solid lines and what to offer brazen Kadri. Our D will be ok. I get scared of big ticked high priced D men anyway. Are they really worth the big $$
Karlson isn’t lookin that great in st Jose and has his bad games as does doughty. There are cheaper good D men to be had with other pieces to give up other than nylander. Wingers is what we need. Matthews and Kadri both need a gifted winger |
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Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON Joined: 08.11.2011
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The Leafs need him more. Sparks will adjust. - TrashPanda
We don't have any other option at the moment. Sparks better adjust, and soon too. |
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AngryWhiteMale
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Location: Ottawa, ON Joined: 09.14.2010
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Nylander's not getting 8 mil on any NHL team, never mind Toronto.
If he did, someone would have sent in an offer sheet near the start of the season or even before.
No one's stupid enough to give 8 mil to a guy with 2 years of experience, no sign of improvement year over year in points, and getting only 61 points while playing with Matthews and also getting top line minutes (not 3rd line like Kadri).
Hell, Bozak on the wing could've potted 50+ points with his stone hands, and he was dominating faceoffs too.
If he was on no-name market team, he'd be lucky to get over 5.5 mil a year. I primarily blame the media in Toronto over-inflating numbers while not being aware of what players get paid around to rest of the league for the same output.
Matthews has never put up more than 69 points but they're talking about him getting more than McDavid at over 100 points. Weed might've been legalized recently but the media here was smoking it way before that.
Also, apparently Pastrnak wasnt good enough of a comparable...lol...I'd trade 2 Nylanders for'em at this point. - Buggy166
This right here |
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PatC80
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Honestly I don’t want to see nylander trades but if leafs do trade him get a very good winger left winger or right winger that can add something to this team and can score. Why? If nylander goes you have a void on wing. Marleau will be 40 next year. We need 2 complete solid lines and what to offer brazen Kadri. Our D will be ok. I get scared of big ticked high priced D men anyway. Are they really worth the big $$
Karlson isn’t lookin that great in st Jose and has his bad games as does doughty. There are cheaper good D men to be had with other pieces to give up other than nylander. Wingers is what we need. Matthews and Kadri both need a gifted winger - BreathLeafs2015
That's why Carolina makes the most sense. Pesce and Ferland. Or even a team like the Ducks. Maybe something like Manson and Silfverberg? |
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This right here - AngryWhiteMale
Offer sheeting nylander big money has its hook to go with it. There are numbers for instance if a team offer sheets nylander 7,5 mil they have to compensate Toronto with 1st round pick +
And the higher the number in $$ in the offer sheet for example $9 mil+ maybe costing team offering multiple 1st round picks as long as leafs don’t match the offer sheet. I don’t have exact numbers but feamsxout there are NOT going to back up a brinks truck to nylander based on what Willy hopes his future play will be thereby causing new team to cough up more than one 1st rounder. To me it’s win win for Dubas. Offer Willy $6.75 -$7 mil over 6-7 years if he doesn’t want to agree let him sit out one whole year stunting his development. Guess who still owns Willy after that one year? Dubas. And if Willy signs with leafs he can not have a no trade clause. |
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That's why Carolina makes the most sense. Pesce and Ferland. Or even a team like the Ducks. Maybe something like Manson and Silfverberg? - PatC80
Yes and you know what? That’s is the only package I like—-what you just mentioned from Carolina |
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AngryWhiteMale
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Location: Ottawa, ON Joined: 09.14.2010
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Offer sheeting nylander big money has its hook to go with it. There are numbers for instance if a team offer sheets nylander 7,5 mil they have to compensate Toronto with 1st round pick +
And the higher the number in $$ in the offer sheet for example $9 mil+ maybe costing team offering multiple 1st round picks as long as leafs don’t match the offer sheet. I don’t have exact numbers but feamsxout there are NOT going to back up a brinks truck to nylander based on what Willy hopes his future play will be thereby causing new team to cough up more than one 1st rounder. To me it’s win win for Dubas. Offer Willy $6.75 -$7 mil over 6-7 years if he doesn’t want to agree let him sit out one whole year stunting his development. Guess who still owns Willy after that one year? Dubas. And if Willy signs with leafs he can not have a no trade clause. - BreathLeafs2015
I always kinda thought he'd be in the 7-7.2 range when all was said and done. That's what inflation does, not what I think he'd worth. I would think he should be happy with 42m over 7 years
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First, the team that owns a player’s rights has seven days to decide whether or not to match. If they do choose to match, the player stays put and his new contract is the same as the terms of the offer sheet.
If a team elects to not match an offer sheet, the signing team will then acquire the player but have to pay draft-pick compensation that is relative to the new contract’s average annual value (AAV).
The compensation scale is readjusted each year based on the average league salary. This year’s scale is as follows, according to Elliotte Friedman via 31 Thoughts.
Offer Sheet (AAV) Compensation
$1,339,575 or below None
Over $1,339,575 to $2,029,59 3rd
Over $2,029,59 to $4,059,322 2nd
Over $4,059,322 to $6,088,980 1st, 3rd
Over $6,088,980 to $8,118,641 1st, 2nd, 3rd
Over $8,118,641 to $10,148,302 (2) 1st, 2nd, 3rd
Over $10,148,302. (3) 1st |
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TrashPanda
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Location: Your Green Bin, ON Joined: 03.29.2018
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I always kinda thought he'd be in the 7-7.2 range when all was said and done. That's what inflation does, not what I think he'd worth. I would think he should be happy with 42m over 7 years - AngryWhiteMale
Yeah, me too. I think that's a deal that is easily done, especially with the cap going way up over US gambling revenues.
That's why I keep thinking that there is something Nylander wants that Dubie just can't agree to. |
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PatC80
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Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON Joined: 08.11.2011
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Yeah, me too. I think that's a deal that is easily done, especially with the cap going way up over US gambling revenues.
That's why I keep thinking that there is something Nylander wants that Dubie just can't agree to. - TrashPanda
From everything I read and heard, his camp is stuck on the $8M |
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Sebastian aho just scores overtime winner against hawks and man does he move like nylander. Ok where did everyone go on this site tonight. Man I love hockey. Gotta get Willy signed and add another decent winger for Kadri get Matthews back and let’s go cat go |
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Put molson Canadian in fridge turn up coldness setting in fridge. Fire up the bbq steak and chicken breast fries and broccoli and a few belts of Johnny walker black label or crown royal and ahhh some Cccold molson beeer and leafs playing good hockey |
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TrashPanda
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From everything I read and heard, his camp is stuck on the $8M - PatC80
When negotiating you always ask for more than you want, and hope to get something acceptable. If he's really stuck on that number, and his agent isn't even coming close to negotiating in good faith, then that is simply unprofessional.
Who else is going to give him $8M? That one is tough. I heard Gretzky on Sportsnet earlier and he was basically questioning why Nylander hadn't signed already. Everything is perfect for a player. You're on a marquee team, that team is a contender, and you're still going to get paid.
This is why I think there's something else. Does he want a NMC? A lockout proof deal similar to Tavares? A guarantee on how he'll be used on and off the ice? An 'A' stitched onto his sweater? I don't think a player of Nylander's calibre gets any of these things, but perhaps he or his father just doesn't see it that way. |
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From everything I read and heard, his camp is stuck on the $8M - PatC80
Yeah go figure they’re asking high knowing final offer will be a smidge lower—usually is |
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First, the team that owns a player’s rights has seven days to decide whether or not to match. If they do choose to match, the player stays put and his new contract is the same as the terms of the offer sheet.
If a team elects to not match an offer sheet, the signing team will then acquire the player but have to pay draft-pick compensation that is relative to the new contract’s average annual value (AAV).
The compensation scale is readjusted each year based on the average league salary. This year’s scale is as follows, according to Elliotte Friedman via 31 Thoughts.
Offer Sheet (AAV) Compensation
$1,339,575 or below None
Over $1,339,575 to $2,029,59 3rd
Over $2,029,59 to $4,059,322 2nd
Over $4,059,322 to $6,088,980 1st, 3rd
Over $6,088,980 to $8,118,641 1st, 2nd, 3rd
Over $8,118,641 to $10,148,302 (2) 1st, 2nd, 3rd
Over $10,148,302. (3) 1st - BreathLeafs2015
It’s 4 firsts if the aav is over that last threshold. Also the aav is calculated by the total dollars / number of contract years or 5, whichever is less.
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It’s 4 firsts if the aav is over that last threshold. Also the aav is calculated by the total dollars / number of contract years or 5, whichever is less. - TheHank
Thanks bud |
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PatC80
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When negotiating you always ask for more than you want, and hope to get something acceptable. If he's really stuck on that number, and his agent isn't even coming close to negotiating in good faith, then that is simply unprofessional.
Who else is going to give him $8M? That one is tough. I heard Gretzky on Sportsnet earlier and he was basically questioning why Nylander hadn't signed already. Everything is perfect for a player. You're on a marquee team, that team is a contender, and you're still going to get paid.
This is why I think there's something else. Does he want a NMC? A lockout proof deal similar to Tavares? A guarantee on how he'll be used on and off the ice? An 'A' stitched onto his sweater? I don't think a player of Nylander's calibre gets any of these things, but perhaps he or his father just doesn't see it that way. - TrashPanda
I don't know if Gord Miller has any legit sources, but he did say on Leafs Lunch that he spoke to a handful of GM's and they all said that they wouldn't give Nylander what he's asking for. Whether thats money or term or something else I don't know |
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PatC80
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Yeah go figure they’re asking high knowing final offer will be a smidge lower—usually is - BreathLeafs2015
I get that part, but eventually the player and the agent should come down to a reasonable number. Maybe Nylander and his camp blink soon. |
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TheHank
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Thanks bud - BreathLeafs2015
Any time chief |
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I get that part, but eventually the player and the agent should come down to a reasonable number. Maybe Nylander and his camp blink soon. - PatC80
Would be nice!!! |
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if nylander wants more than 6, he can sit....no trade, no hockey for you.
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Atomic Wedgie
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Location: The centre of the hockey universe Joined: 07.31.2006
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I don't know if Gord Miller has any legit sources, but he did say on Leafs Lunch that he spoke to a handful of GM's and they all said that they wouldn't give Nylander what he's asking for. Whether thats money or term or something else I don't know - PatC80
I hope Dubas tells Nylander's camp he has 2 weeks to work out a contract with another team.
The lack of $8 million dollar offers might make this douchebag rethink his demands.
Hey Wee Willy - go frank yourself. |
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Barx
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When negotiating you always ask for more than you want, and hope to get something acceptable. If he's really stuck on that number, and his agent isn't even coming close to negotiating in good faith, then that is simply unprofessional.
Who else is going to give him $8M? That one is tough. I heard Gretzky on Sportsnet earlier and he was basically questioning why Nylander hadn't signed already. Everything is perfect for a player. You're on a marquee team, that team is a contender, and you're still going to get paid.
This is why I think there's something else. Does he want a NMC? A lockout proof deal similar to Tavares? A guarantee on how he'll be used on and off the ice? An 'A' stitched onto his sweater? I don't think a player of Nylander's calibre gets any of these things, but perhaps he or his father just doesn't see it that way. - TrashPanda
If he's after 8 million and won't budge, or has asked for anything else on your list, I want the Leafs to make an example of him..........you don't want to play for fair value, then watch from sweden.
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PatC80
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I hope Dubas tells Nylander's camp he has 2 weeks to work out a contract with another team.
The lack of $8 million dollar offers might make this douchebag rethink his demands.
Hey Wee Willy - go frank yourself. - Atomic Wedgie
I think it's trending in that direction. Willy sign here or go fly a kite in Siberia. |
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Location: New Glasgow, NS Joined: 09.04.2008
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you look like a 4th liner...
here's the Willie Ny version
- 21peter
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