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Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Nov 13 @ 10:17 AM ET
I don't think Raffl would go to center. i think Laughton would. best lineup with everyone helthy and the way guys are playing:

Giroux - Couturier - Konecny
Lindblom - Patrick - Voracek
JVR - Laughton - Simmonds
Raffl - Lehtara - Weise

Extra: Weal

- J35Bacher


If Laughton isn't a good enough center the 4th line in Hak's mind, how does he make the leap to 3C?
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Nov 13 @ 10:18 AM ET
She's very good, and she's also pretty good looking. But I find it hard to believe that she's the #1 ranked anthemist in the NHL year after year. She definitely WAS #1 way back in 2005, when the poll was taken and she won, but there are many others around the league who are better now.
- jmatchett383

I guess until there is a new poll she is #1 lol. I'll trade her for a solid PK unit.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Nov 13 @ 10:18 AM ET
If Laughton isn't a good enough center the 4th line in Hak's mind, how does he make the leap to 3C?
- Feanor

There is only one fourth line center, Giroux cannot even take his spot.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Nov 13 @ 10:20 AM ET
If Laughton isn't a good enough center the 4th line in Hak's mind, how does he make the leap to 3C?
- Feanor



I don't think it has anything to do with good enough. I think it was roster construction. They started the season with Vorobyev there so Laughton was on the wing where hes was pretty good. Vorobyev wasn't going to play wing.

Also I don't see Lehtara playing wing as Laughton brings more speed there.

Vorobyev is in Lehigh now. Weise is playing well. I don't see them taking Weise out so logically Laughton, whose playing well, shifting to center and taking Weal's spot seems logical in constructing this roster.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Nov 13 @ 10:22 AM ET
I don't think it has anything to do with good enough. I think it was roster construction. They started the season with Vorobyev there so Laughton was on the wing where hes was pretty good. Vorobyev wasn't going to play wing.

Also I don't see Lehtara playing wing as Laughton brings more speed there.

Vorobyev is in Lehigh now. Weise is playing well. I don't see them taking Weise out so logically Laughton, whose playing well, shifting to center and taking Weal's spot seems logical in constructing this roster.

- J35Bacher


Something snarky shot attempts metrics
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Nov 13 @ 10:23 AM ET
She's very good, and she's also pretty good looking. But I find it hard to believe that she's the #1 ranked anthemist in the NHL year after year. She definitely WAS #1 way back in 2005, when the poll was taken and she won, but there are many others around the league who are better now.
- jmatchett383


She's OK. Not a huge fan of blondes though. I like my women soulless
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Nov 13 @ 10:24 AM ET
If Laughton isn't a good enough center the 4th line in Hak's mind, how does he make the leap to 3C?
- Feanor


I think Laughton has done it the old fashioned way....he's earned it. I think Laughton has earned the trust from the coach for being probably the most consistant two way forward up till now this season.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Nov 13 @ 10:24 AM ET
There is only one fourth line center, Giroux cannot even take his spot.
- ClaudeFather


Giroux is awful. Worst 100 point player in history Couldnt hack it as 4th line center so moved him to wing
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Nov 13 @ 10:25 AM ET
JVR doesn't play the right side and Simmer typically only plays right.
- Jeff Paul


JvR has absolutely played the right side in his career, in Toronto with Kadri and Bozak and Kadri played the left side.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Nov 13 @ 10:26 AM ET
I think Laughton has done it the old fashioned way....he's earned it. I think Laughton has earned the trust from the coach for being probably the most consistant two way forward up till now this season.
- landros 2


Majority of the time Effort beats skill if the effort isnt there. Thats why a lot of skilled players never make it. Guys like Yakapov have the skill but never put in the effort.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Nov 13 @ 10:29 AM ET
Majority of the time Effort beats skill if the effort isnt there. Thats why a lot of skilled players never make it. Guys like Yakapov have the skill but never put in the effort.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx


that is true....but I really think Laughton has more skill then some give him credit for. I hope he gets the chance to take the 3 C role. Give him JVR and Simmond's and lets see if he can do it. I think he'll be successful.
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Nov 13 @ 10:33 AM ET
With a couple of Outdoor game jerseys being revealed I’m excited to see the Flyers. Hope it is revealed soon!
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Nov 13 @ 10:34 AM ET
that is true....but I really think Laughton has more skill then some give him credit for. I hope he gets the chance to take the 3 C role. Give him JVR and Simmond's and lets see if he can do it. I think he'll be successful.
- landros 2



Totally agree.

Also that 3rd line would play a pretty good north/south game. Two big wingers and a solid center with some speed and skill.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Nov 13 @ 10:41 AM ET
With a couple of Outdoor game jerseys being revealed I’m excited to see the Flyers. Hope it is revealed soon!
- arichardson22


Are they going to have another one? I thought they were just going with those black jerseys that they played in last Saturday.
Konalover
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: HI
Joined: 11.03.2015

Nov 13 @ 10:43 AM ET
Where's Wealdo?
scratched of traded?
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Nov 13 @ 10:47 AM ET
Are they going to have another one? I thought they were just going with those black jerseys that they played in last Saturday.
- johndewar


Those were last years Outdoor game jersey so I hope not. Would be cool to see a new design for the game
Konalover
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: HI
Joined: 11.03.2015

Nov 13 @ 10:49 AM ET
Weal is the 3C averaging 14 minutes per game. Why would he come out of the lineup when two wingers return?

Hak hasn't used Raffl at center in his 3+ year tenure.

- Feanor

Weal isn't in the lineup tonight....
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Nov 13 @ 10:52 AM ET
Weal isn't in the lineup tonight....
- Konalover



Confirmed or asking?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Nov 13 @ 10:54 AM ET
Where's Wealdo?
scratched of traded?

- Konalover


Traded for Shea Weber
Konalover
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: HI
Joined: 11.03.2015

Nov 13 @ 10:55 AM ET
Confirmed or asking?
- J35Bacher

Read Bill's lineup!
bulet13
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Faceoffs, Plus/Minus, and PIMs...the Holy Trinity, TX
Joined: 03.10.2013

Nov 13 @ 10:55 AM ET
She's very good, and she's also pretty good looking. But I find it hard to believe that she's the #1 ranked anthemist in the NHL year after year. She definitely WAS #1 way back in 2005, when the poll was taken and she won, but there are many others around the league who are better now.
- jmatchett383


Actually in 05 she was voted the best nhl anthem singer in history lol which sounds absurd
bulet13
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Faceoffs, Plus/Minus, and PIMs...the Holy Trinity, TX
Joined: 03.10.2013

Nov 13 @ 10:57 AM ET
Read Bill's lineup!
- Konalover


He's there...
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Nov 13 @ 10:58 AM ET
Read Bill's lineup!
- Konalover


He's listed as the 3C.

Until he's traded for Shea Weber.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Nov 13 @ 11:00 AM ET
Read Bill's lineup!
- Konalover


made me look...
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Nov 13 @ 11:02 AM ET
NAK and Weal are out when JVR and Raffl are back. Laughton is 3C flanked by JVR and Simmer. If you don't like having 2 power forwards on the same line, drop Lindblom down to the 3rd and move JVR up to 2nd.

4th line is Weise/Lehtera/Raffl.

Just my 2 cents.
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