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CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Nov 14 @ 12:45 PM ET
wait till he plays with 87 or 71 and racks up another 40 points though.
- Codes1087

Roussel would rack up 40 with Crosby. Why not target someone that can score 60 plus? It may work out...not a Pearson fan and he has an ugly contract. Also two teams that are desperate to shake things up so it makes sense
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Nov 14 @ 12:54 PM ET
Roussel would rack up 40 with Crosby. Why not target someone that can score 60 plus? It may work out...not a Pearson fan and he has an ugly contract. Also two teams that are desperate to shake things up so it makes sense
- CanuckDon


Because pits farm is already gutted. They cant really sell any more if the farm. They spent a 1st rounder on reaves and lost prospects and picks from deals like the kessel one. I think it was a really smart move by rutherford. I think 3.75 is awful for a player on pearsons pace, but if he can get chemistry with either malkin or crosby, it could be a really good deal.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Nov 14 @ 12:57 PM ET
Horvat?

The problem with all three (well 2, because Beafle is injured) is that they are being played in the top 6 instead of the bottom 6. Benning spent big money to improve the bottom of the roster and surprise surprise it’s the top of the roster that needs help.

- 1970vintage

Long time Canuck fans had to know that Sutter-Edler-Tanev-Baertchi and a few others are going to be out of the lineup with injuries. Their stats just don't show they will be able to play healthy seasons anymore. Beagle out is huge in my book. Plays the 200' game wins draws and contributes from time/time on the scoresheet plus plays in the tough areas.

But you're correct it's the top 6 that needs support. Pettersson has cooled off big time as expected as teams are playing him differently now. Horvat is playing a super large workload. Boeser and baercthi out are big too.

I'm just hoping Hughes and OJ aren't injury-prone for next season.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Nov 14 @ 1:02 PM ET
Long time Canuck fans had to know that Sutter-Edler-Tanev-Baertchi and a few others are going to be out of the lineup with injuries. Their stats just don't show they will be able to play healthy seasons anymore. Beagle out is huge in my book. Plays the 200' game wins draws and contributes from time/time on the scoresheet plus plays in the tough areas.

But you're correct it's the top 6 that needs support. Pettersson has cooled off big time as expected as teams are playing him differently now. Horvat is playing a super large workload. Boeser and baercthi out are big too.

I'm just hoping Hughes and OJ aren't injury-prone for next season.

- LordHumungous


A 200’ game (the length of the ice) means contributing at both ends. “Offensive type players” get maligned for poor defensive coverage, noting that they don’t play a 200’ game, but these “defensive specialists” also don’t play a 200’ game, because they don’t have the skill or creativity to put up goals/assists, which are ultimately the means by which a game is measured.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Nov 14 @ 1:03 PM ET
Long time Canuck fans had to know that Sutter-Edler-Tanev-Baertchi and a few others are going to be out of the lineup with injuries. Their stats just don't show they will be able to play healthy seasons anymore. Beagle out is huge in my book. Plays the 200' game wins draws and contributes from time/time on the scoresheet plus plays in the tough areas.

But you're correct it's the top 6 that needs support. Pettersson has cooled off big time as expected as teams are playing him differently now. Horvat is playing a super large workload. Boeser and baercthi out are big too.

I'm just hoping Hughes and OJ aren't injury-prone for next season.

- LordHumungous

Hughes will be here when his season is done for the playoff push.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Nov 14 @ 1:04 PM ET
Pearson is a 3rd wheel


Toffoli is the one you want
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Nov 14 @ 1:06 PM ET
Pearson is a 3rd wheel


Toffoli is the one you want

- Nucker101

Meh - linden vey was the one driving that line
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Nov 14 @ 1:08 PM ET
The goal tending has not been the problem this year. It was not good last night but you certainly can't blame it for the year.

Anyone who thinks the road schedule has not had an effect , well I won't get into it.

So after 20 games with a beaten up roster they are above .500 . How many seen that coming? I never seen such a fan base that wants their team to lose (not you) so they can come in here pound their chest and say I told you so.

They don't even care about the draft pick they are just excited when their is failure.

I think the team has had a good start and will be at home more with some bodies coming back. Lets see how the next 20 go.

- VANTEL


Says the guy who claimed that there was no way that pettersson could hit 50 points.

#pessimism
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Nov 14 @ 1:11 PM ET
Probably why when the team wins some come in here and are so happy. Combat the people that are so overjoyed when the team loses.

Team has played a lot of games. Illusion of the standings.

At this point I just dont understand how DP is still playing first pair minutes and the PP.

Why is Granlund still playing center? A combined 30% win percentage over the last two games.

- manvanfan


Because some people really hate Gaunce, despite him having a positive career faceoff percentage and being a defensive juggernaut. Offense no, but if you want a player to stop the puck from going into your net, he's your guy.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Nov 14 @ 1:14 PM ET
Loui Eriksson 4-8-12 is third in Canucks scoring
- LeftCoaster


Earning his paychecks.... we shouldn't trade him anymore, he's become foundational.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Nov 14 @ 1:14 PM ET
Pearson is a 3rd wheel


Toffoli is the one you want

- Nucker101


I thought those 2 were pretty much clones.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Nov 14 @ 1:14 PM ET
Says the guy who claimed that there was no way that pettersson could hit 50 points.

#pessimism

- Pres.cup

Markstroms numbers are worse then last season. Scoring from defence is up this year. Just as many key injuries this year as last.

Team hasn't improved from last season, just going about things different.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Nov 14 @ 1:17 PM ET
Because some people really hate Gaunce, despite him having a positive career faceoff percentage and being a defensive juggernaut. Offense no, but if you want a player to stop the puck from going into your net, he's your guy.
- Pres.cup

I just want Granlund to stop taking faceoffs as much as possible.
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Nov 14 @ 1:18 PM ET
Long time Canuck fans had to know that Sutter-Edler-Tanev-Baertchi and a few others are going to be out of the lineup with injuries. Their stats just don't show they will be able to play healthy seasons anymore. Beagle out is huge in my book. Plays the 200' game wins draws and contributes from time/time on the scoresheet plus plays in the tough areas.

But you're correct it's the top 6 that needs support. Pettersson has cooled off big time as expected as teams are playing him differently now. Horvat is playing a super large workload. Boeser and baercthi out are big too.

I'm just hoping Hughes and OJ aren't injury-prone for next season.

- LordHumungous


I would be surprised and thankful if they could get in 70-75 games. 4 of the 5 you mentioned play big minutes when healthy.

and agree with the defensive player often generously being labeled a 200ft player.

We have a lot o injuries, guys that should be playing in the bottom 6 are in the top6

seeing why we need another hit in the first round. we need another centre that can win faceoffs. we need some of our young offensive wingers to push for a call up, but haven't heard if any are ready on the defensive side of the game.

our depth is already in the lineup or injured.
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Nov 14 @ 1:21 PM ET
I just want Granlund to stop taking faceoffs as much as possible.
- manvanfan





the look on his face the other night after losing the face off leading to the goal.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Nov 14 @ 1:21 PM ET
I thought those 2 were pretty much clones.
- Reubenkincade

Not even close, but you’re not alone. That’s why so many fans are like “omg wtf LA” right now.

But there’s a reason why LA struggled to move Pearson, meanwhile Toffoli would start a bidding war.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Nov 14 @ 1:23 PM ET
Markstroms numbers are worse then last season. Scoring from defence is up this year. Just as many key injuries this year as last.

Team hasn't improved from last season, just going about things different.

- manvanfan

Its funny that our goaltending is our biggest concern other than all the injuries. At least its my biggest concern.

Schneider and a 3rd for Markstrom.
Lindenis#1
Vancouver Canucks
Location: he's (frank)in unstable so mrs dt is freaking out, AB
Joined: 07.22.2007

Nov 14 @ 1:25 PM ET
Long time Canuck fans had to know that Sutter-Edler-Tanev-Baertchi and a few others are going to be out of the lineup with injuries. Their stats just don't show they will be able to play healthy seasons anymore. Beagle out is huge in my book. Plays the 200' game wins draws and contributes from time/time on the scoresheet plus plays in the tough areas.

But you're correct it's the top 6 that needs support. Pettersson has cooled off big time as expected as teams are playing him differently now. Horvat is playing a super large workload. Boeser and baercthi out are big too.

I'm just hoping Hughes and OJ aren't injury-prone for next season.

- LordHumungous


There are essentially three players this lineup critically misses and none of them are named Jay Beagle.

Their PK was doing great without Beagle (basically hovering from 7-10th) until Sutter got injured. Since Sutter got injured they dropped from that 7-10 range down to like 16th or whatever. There is nothing to show Beagle is a good PKer in his entire career except the fact he's willing to block shots. Shot suppression, shots against, zone entires, etc. All dump on him for being ineffective.

5v5 they can roll 4 lines that know how to complete passes and do something on the offensive side of center that isn't poke and hope. Beagle's 5v5 results are not good. Gaudette and Granlund are much more effective at getting the puck up ice and keeping it there in the bottom 6. The both of them can actually play up the lineup and give different looks elsewhere too.

He wins faceoffs but his lines generally have nothing to show for it after.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Nov 14 @ 1:28 PM ET
Pittsburgh retained 250k on Hagelin salary.
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Nov 14 @ 1:35 PM ET
Man this team misses Beagle and Sutter big time, The G string boys (Granlund, Goldobin, Gaudette) just aren't effective in their own zone.

Oh well just have to accept the losses while Beagle and Sutter heal.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Nov 14 @ 1:39 PM ET
Man this team misses Beagle and Sutter big time, The G string boys (Granlund, Goldobin, Gaudette) just aren't effective in their own zone.

Oh well just have to accept the losses while Beagle and Sutter heal.

- Makita

CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Nov 14 @ 1:40 PM ET
Man this team misses Beagle and Sutter big time, The G string boys (Granlund, Goldobin, Gaudette) just aren't effective in their own zone.

Oh well just have to accept the losses while Beagle and Sutter heal.

- Makita

Gaudette and Goblin need to be in the A. Having Gaudette get smashed with the canucks every day is likely hurting his development. Granlund is fine filler until we have more depth
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Nov 14 @ 1:41 PM ET
Apparently Toffoli is available too
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Nov 14 @ 1:46 PM ET
Apparently Toffoli is available too
- Nucker101


For our G-string boys, I would do it.😁
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Nov 14 @ 1:46 PM ET
Apparently Toffoli is available too
- Nucker101

Fire sale in LA. Too soon?
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