Oh, for sure. But when they go through those stretches where they have no offensive push and the other team just pots a couple on them, seemingly quite easily, it's hard to watch.
- johndewar

Florida is one of those teams that plays a tight disciplined checking style. Flyers played well for most of the first period but I think they get impatient. You have to muck it up in those types of games and fight for every inch. It also doesn't help that due to a lack of options, Giroux has to go head to head with Barkov for almost 16 minutes if his ES ice time. This an area where not having a veteran 3C is hurting them.

Screw that fire Hextall, fire Hakstol, fire Lappy, fire Knoblauch, fire Murphy, fire McCrossin, fire Johnson, fire Jonsey, fire Hatcher, fire the players, hell with it fire the fans too.
- dragonoffrost

Well, as long as they keep Taryn....

Screw that fire Hextall, fire Hakstol, fire Lappy, fire Knoblauch, fire Murphy, fire McCrossin, fire Johnson, fire Jonsey, fire Hatcher, fire the players, hell with it fire the fans too.
- dragonoffrost

I missed that at first, blocked for life!

Also, what is going on with our shooting accuracy? I can’t stand hearing JJ say, “He shoots... and it goes high and wide of the net” over and over again.

Of our 72 attempted shots, 22 missed the net completely. That’s 30.5% off the mark. So, almost a third of our shots. I know that hockey is a tough game, and hitting a moving piece of frozen rubber while being chased down or bumped around isn’t easy, but can we please get back to basics and have these guys do some target practice??
- jsh139

We time warped back to the days of Carter and Gagne.

For me, yes I was entertained. I love hockey, I love the nuances of the game. Why does every game have to be a goal or fight fest.
- Glak18

I do as well.

It isn't all about goals, It is the product itself.

The nuances are great, but when the nuances are the same issues game in and game out that, isn't entertaining, it is insanity.

I think part of it, for me, is the lack of physical play. It was part of what allured me to the sport.

I know the game has changed.

Well, that change for some may be fine and welcomed, but for me it has produced a product that, well, atleast watching this Flyers team, is less then entertaining.

The penalties kill this team because they either give up a goal or lose all momentum. Getting van Reimsdyk back should help bring some more offense.

Also did anyone see Laughton got put in the middle and Weal was moved out? Just like we said yesterday, so I can see that happening Thursday if JVR is back.

The one thing I am starting to worry about is Provorov just is having too many seemingly down games. He just doesnt look right and there is no way this team can make a playoff run without him playing like a top pair player.
- J35Bacher

Yup, saw that with Laughton and IMO, it was a smart move.

RE Provorov:
My guess is that he got off to a slow start coming off last year's playoff injury and now, it's more mental. I think he realizes how important he is to the team and I think the kid is pressing a bit. It really is a lot to ask a 21 year old Dman, just starting his 3rd season, to be your #1 guy, match up constantly against the other team's top line and top pp unit and do it all without having a legit top pair partner to play with.

If the Flyers want to really help this team take the next step in 19-20, I'd like to see them part with some quality assets to bring back a legit top pair Dman under 30 who they can pair with Provy. They have a lot of good young D, but no one who you can say with certainty can be that player. I think they have the prospects, picks and depth to acquire this type of player and I think it would greatly improve the team.

I am not saying it is the end of the world.

It is the apathy that I am struggling with. This product is just not fun to watch.

Not trying to upset any of you on here, as by the comments above it, looks like I have. I was simply stating how I see things.

The purpose of sports is to be entertained. Are you entertained? Was that a fun game to watch?
- ggunky

I hear ya, and I get it. The 2nd period was hard to watch. I thought the game started well and I found the 3rd period entertaining, but yeah, I'd like to see the emotion they played with in the 3rd last night more often.

It's unreasonable to expect them to play like that every period of every game over 82 games, no team does. But they need to do it more than they are now.

Yup, saw that with Laughton and IMO, it was a smart move.

RE Provorov:
My guess is that he got off to a slow start coming off last year's playoff injury and now, it's more mental. I think he realizes how important he is to the team and I think the kid is pressing a bit. It really is a lot to ask a 21 year old Dman, just starting his 3rd season, to be your #1 guy, match up constantly against the other team's top line and top pp unit and do it all without having a legit top pair partner to play with.

If the Flyers want to really help this team take the next step in 19-20, I'd like to see them part with some quality assets to bring back a legit top pair Dman under 30 who they can pair with Provy. They have a lot of good young D, but no one who you can say with certainty can be that player. I think they have the prospects, picks and depth to acquire this type of player and I think it would greatly improve the team.
- BiggE

That's like going to the store for milk and they're out of milk.

I do as well.

It isn't all about goals, It is the product itself.

The nuances are great, but when the nuances are the same issues game in and game out that isn't entertaining, it is insanity.

I think part of it, for me, is the lack of physical play. It was part of what allured me to the sport.

I know the game has changed.

Well, that change for some may be fine and welcomed, but for me it has produced a product that, well, atleast watching this Flyers team, is less then entertaining.
- ggunky

If you ask me, which you didn't, but I will hockeybuzz you anyway it has more to do with your age then. You are in been there and done that phase, it's frustration associated with cheering for a team who hasn't been a clear cut top team for a long time now. It's a reason you may feel "Same thing, different day". It's sports. No different than what the Red Sox, Rangers or even the Eagles fans went through.

It sucks, but good times and bad times.

Let's Go Flyers!

I hear ya, and I get it. The 2nd period was hard to watch. I thought the game started well and I found the 3rd period entertaining, but yeah, I'd like to see the emotion they played with in the 3rd last night more often.

It's unreasonable to expect them to play like that every period of every game over 82 games, no team does. But they need to do it more than they are now.
- BiggE

With St. Louis struggling so bad would they part with Petriangelo? Nashville might be a spot with their abundance of top line defenders.

Their are really only a couple guys I would move assets for.

With St. Louis struggling so bad would they part with Petriangelo? Nashville might be a spot with their abundance of top line defenders.

Their are really only a couple guys I would move assets for.
- J35Bacher

So do you feel a top 2/4 defender is the difference from the current team to a team in the higher tier?

If you ask me, which you didn't, but I will hockeybuzz you anyway it has more to do with your age then. You are in been there and done that phase, it's frustration associated with cheering for a team who hasn't been a clear cut top team for a long time now. It's a reason you may feel "Same thing, different day". It's sports. No different than what the Red Sox, Rangers or even the Eagles fans went through.

It sucks, but good times and bad times.

Let's Go Flyers!
- Glak18

YES! to the bolded.

I think, some of it is, I know, without a shadow of a doubt, that this PK will not get above 27th in the league for the year. With out a doubt. The past tells me this.

Without a PK that is atleast middle of the road, 15thish, then the Flyers will not go anywhere in the playoffs.

I am tired of cheering for a team that has no hope in the playoffs. Special teams are so instrumental in making a run come playoff time and there is 0% chance of a run with this PK.

What sucks is this PK has been brutal for several years. (I know I already complained about this earlier)

So do you feel a top 2/4 defender is the difference from the current team to a team in the higher tier?
- Glak18

A legit top pair guy to play with Provorov would be huge, IMO. As much as I love I guy like Sanheim, there is no guarantee that he will ever be that type of player and that is the kind of guy I'd consider including him in a deal for.

So do you feel a top 2/4 defender is the difference from the current team to a team in the higher tier?
- Glak18

I feel another top end guy would put this team closer to the top end. Are they Tampa or Nashville? Don't think so yet but they are closer.

YES! to the bolded.

I think, some of it is, I know, without a shadow of a doubt, that this PK will not get above 27th in the league for the year. With out a doubt. The past tells me this.

Without a PK that is atleast middle of the road, 15thish, then the Flyers will not go anywhere in the playoffs.

I am tired of cheering for a team that has no hope in the playoffs. Special teams are so instrumental in making a run come playoff time and there is 0% chance of a run with this PK.

What sucks is this PK has been brutal for several years. (I know I already complained about this earlier)
- ggunky

That is a legit complaint and it falls squarely on Ron Hextall. The GM said that the PK would be addressed in the offseason, but it was not.

Although I don't want to trade Taryn, her value has never been higher. Hatcher for Nylander straight up.

Although I don't want to trade Taryn, her value has never been higher. Hatcher for Nylander straight up.
- bmoreflyer

Sorry, Hatcher for Mathews or no deal.

Good to see everyone got the joke with a certain name.

Florida is one of those teams that plays a tight disciplined checking style. Flyers played well for most of the first period but I think they get impatient. You have to muck it up in those types of games and fight for every inch. It also doesn't help that due to a lack of options, Giroux has to go head to head with Barkov for almost 16 minutes if his ES ice time. This an area where not having a veteran 3C is hurting them.
- MJL

One thing about this team is it doesn't have any fight. And I'm not just talking about dropping the gloves.... which has somehow not happened yet. I would like to see them get scrappy, dirty, get angry and do something about it. Not just a face wash when you know the linesmen are going to break it up. If your going into a board battle...HIT the man your going with. Way too much playing the puck and not the man.

I’m not sure if anyone here listens to Broad Street Hockey radio, but Bill Matz and Charlie O’Connor made some good points on last episode regarding special teams and even Provy. Charlie made a point that he feels bad for Haks because Lappy wasn’t exactly his choice, he inherited him. Which makes you wonder, does Haks value him / why has Hextall kept him? And for Provy... he didn’t look like a rookie his 1st season, had no such thing as a sophomore slump. So this year is our first time really seeing him in a slump and facing adversity. It sticks out so much bc it’s far off from what we are used to. I have confidence he can and will turn it around. The PK not so much lol.

I do as well.

It isn't all about goals, It is the product itself.

The nuances are great, but when the nuances are the same issues game in and game out that, isn't entertaining, it is insanity.

I think part of it, for me, is the lack of physical play. It was part of what allured me to the sport.

I know the game has changed.

Well, that change for some may be fine and welcomed, but for me it has produced a product that, well, atleast watching this Flyers team, is less then entertaining.
- ggunky

The game is less physical around the league for the most part. I mean to me it's no longer that I expect the huge blow someone up hit every game. I now expect the physical game to be more of the part of the game that I pointed out last night when Provy then Hagg did a great job sealing off two Panthers. It's more of a skill to get the job done then the just sheer physicality of the past.

That game was unwatchable for the first two periods.
- johndewar

It was so bad. I almost didn't watch the 3rd.

Yup, saw that with Laughton and IMO, it was a smart move.

RE Provorov:
My guess is that he got off to a slow start coming off last year's playoff injury and now, it's more mental. I think he realizes how important he is to the team and I think the kid is pressing a bit. It really is a lot to ask a 21 year old Dman, just starting his 3rd season, to be your #1 guy, match up constantly against the other team's top line and top pp unit and do it all without having a legit top pair partner to play with.

If the Flyers want to really help this team take the next step in 19-20, I'd like to see them part with some quality assets to bring back a legit top pair Dman under 30 who they can pair with Provy. They have a lot of good young D, but no one who you can say with certainty can be that player. I think they have the prospects, picks and depth to acquire this type of player and I think it would greatly improve the team.
- BiggE

I had noticed the swap was made and then Weal went back there for one shift and I was like damn you Hakstol. But the next shift it was back to Laughton. I really think it was a feeler to see in that tight checking game if going to Laughton at Center would work when JvR comes back tommorow or Saturday.

Not happy with the loss, but it was far from their worst game of the season. Florida's a sneaky good team that plays a tight defensive scheme, and the Flyers will have to find a way to win these types of games to go to the next level.

Also, again, while it wasn't a particularly awful game, I didn't watch most of it because it was dull, boring hockey for the most part.

Not happy with the loss, but it was far from their worst game of the season. Florida's a sneaky good team that plays a tight defensive scheme, and the Flyers will have to find a way to win these types of games to go to the next level.

Also, again, while it wasn't a particularly awful game, I didn't watch most of it because it was dull, boring hockey for the most part.
- jmatchett383

I actually think that the dull was partly because of the style Florida plays. They seem to play the old Jersey style when Luongo is in there knowing he can hold them in a game until the capitalize on the other teams mistakes. Elliott was just as good as him last night.

Also I wouldn't be shocked if both coaches tightened the reins of the teams last night after the last meeting of these two teams where it was 6-5 in a shootout.